Re: Revamping Friends of GNOME: help with web page text (with updated text!)

2008-09-20 Thread Stormy Peters
I got some feedback from a couple of non-GNOME people. These are people that
use computers regularly, are somewhat in the technical workspace, but not
programmers. To be honest, and as a disclaimer and to give credit where
credit is due, most of the specific feedback came from, Anita Lettieri, who
is a database administrator/programmer (and also my boyfriend's mother. :)

I've updated the pages. Three things for all of you:


   - I think we could still use a campaign slogan, especially since I
   removed the adopt a hacker idea. Ideas?
   - Does anybody have a good page that explains what the desktop is or what
   GNOME is that we could link to? Otherwise, we should probably create one.
   - One last review of the text - I modified the text (especially at the
   beginning) in response to the feedback below.

Here's the specific feedback and I've attached the modified text.

Feedback that generates significant changes:


   - Hacker – BAD!  VIRUS!   I know that in the software world, hacker can
   be a good thing.  But everything in the other connects hackers to bad
   stuff happening to your computer. (But Somehow adopt a software
   developer seems too dry…)
   - Is $10 the only option?  $5 or $25?  Could I also get quarterly email
   updates on what is being accomplished by my specific developer… maybe at the
   $25 or higher level?
   - Free desktop confusion:
  - I don't know enough about free desktop.  I need education.  Is free
  desktop something I can use?  Does it replace the windows
operating system?
  Can I run windows software?  Where do I go for help if I need
it?  Is there
  a primer on it that is geared to someone like me?
  - The ad does a good job of explaining the purpose of the GNOME
  Foundation and what it supports.  But if I don't know what free desktop,
  open source software, if it will benefit me, I would probably
not let loose
  with the bucks.  It would be nice if there was a link like: Undecided?
  Want to know more about free desktop and how it will benefit you? link.
  (or Want to know more about free desktop and why it is
important – why the
  world needs it?  How does the volunteer software developer
program work?)
  - FYI, this was repeated by everyone. Most people didn't get what part
  of their computer was the desktop. Windows = Linux, and the
desktop is ...?
  Anita suggested a free desktop campaign based on something like
pork, the
  other white meat.)

Changing in wording:


   - Maybe change Monthly banner to Monthly Donation
   - I would leave out the beer reference.  Good for young and hip.  Might
   create a disconnect for people that are older and might have more money to
   contribute.
   - On fog3.png. The content on the two bottom columns could be broken up
   or divided into very clear divisions...with tables or whatever...to make it
   more appealing to read the big long lists. It is a little tiring to try to
   do that without some clearly divided areas.

Positive feedback:

   - Pages look great. They really do!
   - I like the overall look and feel.  It is clean looking and the green
   color reaches out and grabs you.  That and the graphics make me think
   of Ireland and leprechauns for some reason.
   - I especially liked the Thanks for your donation section on the second
   page that spelled out what the different levels of money could accomplish.

Stormy

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Stormy Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I took everyone's feedback on the wording and updated the text. Andreas
 uploaded new png files to the URLs below, if you want to see them. I also
 attached an odt document with the text.
 Now I'm going to go recruit some new volunteers for GNOME. I'm going to get
 a couple of people that aren't familiar with GNOME to take a look at the web
 pages and give their feedback.

 Stormy

 On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Andreas Nilsson wrote:

 Stormy Peters wrote:

 Thoughts? Anyone willing to help with the web page?


 Kalle Persson and myself want to look into the design of this during the
 weekend.

 Hi!
 Here are the designs Kalle and I did:
 http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page1.png
 http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page2.png
 http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/fog-page3.png

 We were uncertain about some details, such as if it was only the Adopt a
 Hacker level that was monthly, plus some other stuff that I can't remember
 right now (do you Kalle?).
 As the hippies we are, we also took the liberty to not follow the
 specification specifically. ;)
 Hrm, no, seriously, we mostly rearranged some stuff and we hope it came
 out for the better.

 There is also a svg with all the elements in it here if anyone wants to
 modify it:
 http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome/friends-of-gnome-design.svg

 We can fix the html and css for this unless someone 

Re: Software Freedom Day

2008-09-20 Thread Thilo Pfennig
Andreas Nilsson schrieb:

 I can put a banner or something up on the website pretty much right away
 if you want to.

I dont have a say.

 Too bad you didn't mention it on the mailing list a bit earlier though.

I actually did: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
08/29/98


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Re: Software Freedom Day

2008-09-20 Thread Andreas Nilsson

Thilo Pfennig wrote:

Andreas Nilsson schrieb:
  

I can put a banner or something up on the website pretty much right away
if you want to.



I dont have a say.
  
I'm not sure who does have a say actually. I just put things there, and 
noone have beaten me up yet. :)

Too bad you didn't mention it on the mailing list a bit earlier though.



I actually did: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
08/29/98
  

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2008-August/msg00025.html
Crap, I totally missed that. I'm terribly, terribly sorry. I guess it's 
a bit late to put something up now. Should we try again next year? (and 
be better prepared hopefully.)

Again, sorry that I missed this.
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Re: Software Freedom Day

2008-09-20 Thread Baris Cicek
Hi;

Why don't we have a marketing agenda somewhere on the wiki? I know we
have some cluttered places on live.gnome.org where mentions upcoming
organizations etc. but they are mostly community centric and not updated
regularly. 

An official list of events that marketing people should focus on would
be nice thing to have. With something on live missing such events can be
prevented, besides people can suggest events for this agenda/calendar. 

Regards,
Baris Cicek

On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 19:09 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
 Thilo Pfennig wrote:
  Andreas Nilsson schrieb:

  I can put a banner or something up on the website pretty much right away
  if you want to.
  
 
  I dont have a say.

 I'm not sure who does have a say actually. I just put things there, and 
 noone have beaten me up yet. :)
  Too bad you didn't mention it on the mailing list a bit earlier though.
  
 
  I actually did: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  08/29/98

 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2008-August/msg00025.html
 Crap, I totally missed that. I'm terribly, terribly sorry. I guess it's 
 a bit late to put something up now. Should we try again next year? (and 
 be better prepared hopefully.)
 Again, sorry that I missed this.
 - Andreas
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 marketing-list@gnome.org
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