Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo
Theppitak Karoonboonyanan schrieb: Thanks for suggestion. We have got some ideas from the discussion so far. Please see a summary at: http://live.gnome.org/FootAndCulturalIssue You are listing Nepal (as referred by Wikipedia, no confirmation by native people yet) Thi extension is funny, because Wikipedia actually has the reverse logic - it tends to dismiss reports of single people as original research and likes to see references that show the truth of the claim. So any single person claiming something is not really a valid proof. Regards, Thilo -- Thilo Pfennig - PfennigSolutions IT-Beratung- Wiki-Systeme Sandkrug 28 - 24143 Kiel (Germany) http://www.pfennigsolutions.de/ XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Thilo_Pfennig - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tpfennig -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo
Hi, I may not be a Thai but my understanding is the foot is offensive not just to Thais but rest of the Tai-Kedai people also. The Thais are just but one group within the Tai-Kedai ethnicity although without doubt they are numerically speaking the largest. Other Tai-Kedai people include the Zhuang, Li, Laotians (for a complete listing, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_peoples). The whole sum i.e. potential target market comes up to be about ~105-110 million of them depending on which estimates you want to believe. This may sound ludcicrous but I do know of some Thai friends who are from Bangkok as well as Isaan (i.e. north-eastern Thais who are ethnic Lao) and all said they would prefer not to use any operating system or DEs with a foot as its logo. Rgds, Shaun - Singaporean Chinese - Original Message - From: Theppitak Karoonboonyanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:42:45 +0700 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I come from Malaysia. I do understand about the cultural issue regarding foot in people especially in the South East Asia area. Currently, from my observation, there is no setback from people in Malaysia with the usage of foot as GNOME logo. Most of the people that are interested to use GNOME did not really care about the foot logo, but some do ask question why foot was chosen as the logo. Thanks for the information. Actually, I think people who are willing to accept GNOME can accept its logo. But the problem I've been facing is about introducing it to people who are totally new. And I'd say, almost *everyone* I introduce GNOME to asks me the question, with different levels of reactions. And repeatedly answering the question over time becomes too much for me. I think I'm more happy to answer technical or philosophical questions instead. As for alternative of the foot logo, maybe GNOME team can come up with a simple G logo, that can be used for community that thinks foot is not nice to associated with. The same logo can then be used in the user interface, documentation, or other material when you are trying to introduce GNOME to them. Thanks for supporting the alternative logo, and for the suggestion. Regards, -- Theppitak Karoonboonyanan http://linux.thai.net/~thep/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- ___ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theppitak Karoonboonyanan schrieb: Thanks for suggestion. We have got some ideas from the discussion so far. Please see a summary at: http://live.gnome.org/FootAndCulturalIssue You are listing Nepal (as referred by Wikipedia, no confirmation by native people yet) Thi extension is funny, because Wikipedia actually has the reverse logic - it tends to dismiss reports of single people as original research and likes to see references that show the truth of the claim. So any single person claiming something is not really a valid proof. I meaned, I just counted Nepal based on Wikipedia, not something I got in this list or from an actual report. Regards, -- Theppitak Karoonboonyanan http://linux.thai.net/~thep/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Events in 2009
Thanks, I moved all the events from the new page to http://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents. If people could fill in which ones they'll be at or even which GNOME sponsor companies will be at them, that would be helpful. Thanks, Stormy On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Adding gugmasters on CC - not sure if there are people there who aren't here, but the idea of that list was to gather at least one person per active GNOME user group, to allow the centralisation of information and the sharing of experiences. I noticed a few missing events where GNOME typically has a presence: Solutions Linux (France), LinuxTag (Germany), RMLL (France), Forum GNOME (typically part of either FISL or Latinoware in Brasil), Linux Expo UK, ... There are other wiki pages existing for this: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/Annual, http://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/Past and http://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents Also the history of the event box in Europe gives a good idea of GNOME presence at conferences: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeEventsBox/Schedule Hope this all helps! I added Solutions Linux, but I prefer to leave adding non-French events to people who know their local events better. Cheers, Dave. Stormy Peters wrote: I'd like to see us put together a plan for GNOME participation in conferences in 2009 or at least document what we are already planning. I started a wiki page with a number of open source events here, http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/events/2009. If everyone could document what they know is happening, then we could discuss what else we think we should be doing. I will also put the events in the GNOME calendar, but I wanted a place we could plan and document our participation. Please take a look at the wiki page and add your comments. (Even if you add what you know we did last year at any given event, that would be helpful.) Thanks! Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
