Re: Please uninstall Friend of GNOME Firefox addon
Hi Jaap, That's really too bad. Did they give any more details? Stormy On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: > Hi, > > I was contacted by the people of iHeartMiro and they said that Amazon > disabled their account because according to Amazon it violated their > operating agreement. So if you installed the Firefox addon please > uninstall it. I've already removed it from addons.mozilla.org > > Regards, > > Jaap > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Introduction to the team
Hi, Im Shane Fagan and I want to help out with Gnome marketing. Well ill start off with an introduction. Im 21 from Ireland, ive been using GNU/Linux (To be politicly correct :) ) since 07. Im a Ubuntu member since July. Im a software development student. My interest in Gnome marketing comes from my interest in blogging about free software in general. I regularly read news.gnome.org so when I read you guys were looking for people I decided to throw my name in there. So I cant wait to get involved and help out. Regards Shane Fagan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Introduction to the team
Welcome to the team! If you have ideas, please feel free to bring them up. And jump in on anything that looks interesting! Stormy On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Shane Fagan wrote: > Hi, > Im Shane Fagan and I want to help out with Gnome marketing. Well ill > start off with an introduction. Im 21 from Ireland, ive been using > GNU/Linux (To be politicly correct :) ) since 07. Im a Ubuntu member > since July. Im a software development student. My interest in Gnome > marketing comes from my interest in blogging about free software in > general. I regularly read news.gnome.org so when I read you guys were > looking for people I decided to throw my name in there. > So I cant wait to get involved and help out. > > Regards > Shane Fagan > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
What is GNOME?
I met with Denise last week and she pointed out: - It's very hard to tell what GNOME is from our web pages. If you don't know when you land on gnome.org, you aren't likely to figure it out. An "easy to understand desktop" doesn't really mean anything to non desktop/OS developers. When you go to About GNOME, you get a list of our values/features but not a definition, screenshot or list of projects. - It's very hard to find a list of projects in GNOME. - No where do we say what GNOME stands for. - No where do we say why we have a foot print as a logo. (There's mention of how it came about in a history here, http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/gnome-history.html, but no mention of why we/they/he thought the foot was representative.) Our current web pages are pretty much for people that already know what GNOME is, but we might want to rethink that as we roll out the new webpage. I think it's a marketing problem. Thoughts? Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: What is GNOME?
2009/9/8 Stormy Peters : > I met with Denise last week and she pointed out: > > It's very hard to tell what GNOME is from our web pages. If you don't know > when you land on gnome.org, you aren't likely to figure it out. An "easy to > understand desktop" doesn't really mean anything to non desktop/OS > developers. When you go to About GNOME, you get a list of our > values/features but not a definition, screenshot or list of projects. > It's very hard to find a list of projects in GNOME. > No where do we say what GNOME stands for. > No where do we say why we have a foot print as a logo. (There's mention of > how it came about in a history here, > http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/gnome-history.html, but no mention of why > we/they/he thought the foot was representative.) > > Our current web pages are pretty much for people that already know what > GNOME is, but we might want to rethink that as we roll out the new webpage. > > I think it's a marketing problem. Thoughts? I think we should break it down to these: A project that aims to make computer accessible to everyone (in the wider possible meaning of accessible, 0 cost, accessible, localized...), this is the BIG meaning. Then this big meaning gets broken down to these 3 main approaches to achieve the goal: * An opensource desktop environment for open source operating systems. (This needs a non-geeky wording approach though) (Freedom for users) *A complete set of tools for developers to create apps for such environment. (Freedom for developers) * An online, world-wide community of people joined together for the pursue of GNOME's goals. My two cents. -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: What is GNOME?
I agree we could do a better job, especially with the "who we are" and "what we do" (we being GNOME). As well as Why. The new www.gnome.org takes steps to address this, if you have a chance to review the sitemap at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/TwoPointTwentyseven/Content The first draft of the content pieces is also linked at the bottom of those pages. The goal is still to have the new site up with the GNOME 2.28 release, and both Lucas and myself are slightly behind. I've put in a request to have a test website created where we can start adding and editing the content in Plone itself. (I really struggle with doing it on the wiki, both seeing it and imagining the flow). If anyone wants to lend a hand, now is a perfect time! Paul On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > 2009/9/8 Dave Lyon : > > On 09/08/2009 02:30 PM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > >>> Our current web pages are pretty much for people that already know what > >>> > GNOME is, but we might want to rethink that as we roll out the new > webpage. > >>> > > >>> > I think it's a marketing problem. Thoughts? > >> I think we should break it down to these: > >> > >> A project that aims to make computer accessible to everyone (in the > >> wider possible meaning of accessible, 0 cost, accessible, > >> localized...), this is the BIG meaning. > >> > >> Then this big meaning gets broken down to these 3 main approaches to > >> achieve the goal: > >> * An opensource desktop environment for open source operating systems. > >> (This needs a non-geeky wording approach though) (Freedom for users) > >> *A complete set of tools for developers to create apps for such > >> environment. (Freedom for developers) > >> * An online, world-wide community of people joined together for the > >> pursue of GNOME's goals. > > > > I think it boils down to the big problem for any website which is > > establishing your target audience and going after them. As soon as you > > split the target into Users and Developers, or even New Users and Old > > Users, your homepage will immediately be less helpful or relevant to any > > of those groups. > > Good point, and I actually think that old users don't use > www.gnome.org that much, so we should prioritize the "I know pretty > much nothing about GNOME user" case. However, easy to reach pointers > for other possible audiences (potential developers, potential > community members) should be pointed at others parts of the website > more or less obviously. > > > In cases like this, it's usually best to go with the least 'in' group- > > the visitors new to GNOME, so they can just arrive and get the > > information at a glance. Long time GNOME users can handle a button or > > link to take them to community content and developers likewise should be > > able to handle an obvious link to targeted content. > > > > I think Alberto has the groups right but if you try to focus on three > > groups on the homepage you'll make it ineffective. > > > > Regards, > > Dave Lyon > > http://eazely.com > > -- > > marketing-list mailing list > > marketing-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > > > > > > -- > Un saludo, > Alberto Ruiz > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
September Marketing Tasks
Hi Marketing team! I took a few minutes to go through the task list on the wiki this weekend at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/TwoPointTwentyseven, and there's definitely a lot going on, and I was hoping to recap some of the activities, and ask if anyone wanted to help with some of the below tasks. Here are some updates on a number of activities going on: GNOME Store: • Daniel on the GNOME Art team created a mockup for how the store will look: http://live.gnome.org/DanielGalleguillos/GNOME_Store_Mockup • Andreas has started coding the html for the store based on the mockup above. Software Freedom Day (Sept 21) • Need press release created (I will email the new Press team - we missed out on this last year, and think it's a good opportunity to get GNOME in the news a bit) GNOME 2.28 Launch • Release notes (I've been writing the release notes - should be done tonight. If anyone wants to help proofread, let me know and I'll get you the password to the review site) • Call for volunteers to be available for press interviews • Press Kit, including: ∘ Press Release ∘ Talking points available for interviewees ∘ List of interviewees for journalists (I'll also include that in the email to the Press team - if anyone wants to help start putting these materials together, the help would be appreciated!) • New website release - see the earlier email today talking a bit about this. Misc. Activities: • Create brochures for the GNOME Press Box for conferences - this was on the schedule for August, and Rosanna also sent an email in the last week or two about this. If anyone wants to start working on it, I would probably recommend working on the copy and content, and we'll ask for some help from the Art team on creating a layout and artwork to put with the content in a brochure. • Sysadmin team is working on deploying CRM and web analytics ∘ Need to discuss CRM product requirements • GNOME 3.0 Marketing Campaign • Amazon store - done! (Nice work Jaap) Lastly, I'd like to talk about the potential GNOME 3.0 campaign. I'll send out a separate email this week to discuss. If anyone wants to jump in and help, these are some good ideas where we could use the help. Thanks. Paul -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: What is GNOME?
2009/9/8 Dave Lyon : > On 09/08/2009 02:30 PM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >>> Our current web pages are pretty much for people that already know what >>> > GNOME is, but we might want to rethink that as we roll out the new >>> > webpage. >>> > >>> > I think it's a marketing problem. Thoughts? >> I think we should break it down to these: >> >> A project that aims to make computer accessible to everyone (in the >> wider possible meaning of accessible, 0 cost, accessible, >> localized...), this is the BIG meaning. >> >> Then this big meaning gets broken down to these 3 main approaches to >> achieve the goal: >> * An opensource desktop environment for open source operating systems. >> (This needs a non-geeky wording approach though) (Freedom for users) >> *A complete set of tools for developers to create apps for such >> environment. (Freedom for developers) >> * An online, world-wide community of people joined together for the >> pursue of GNOME's goals. > > I think it boils down to the big problem for any website which is > establishing your target audience and going after them. As soon as you > split the target into Users and Developers, or even New Users and Old > Users, your homepage will immediately be less helpful or relevant to any > of those groups. Good point, and I actually think that old users don't use www.gnome.org that much, so we should prioritize the "I know pretty much nothing about GNOME user" case. However, easy to reach pointers for other possible audiences (potential developers, potential community members) should be pointed at others parts of the website more or less obviously. > In cases like this, it's usually best to go with the least 'in' group- > the visitors new to GNOME, so they can just arrive and get the > information at a glance. Long time GNOME users can handle a button or > link to take them to community content and developers likewise should be > able to handle an obvious link to targeted content. > > I think Alberto has the groups right but if you try to focus on three > groups on the homepage you'll make it ineffective. > > Regards, > Dave Lyon > http://eazely.com > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Please uninstall Friend of GNOME Firefox addon
No not really somehow Amazon says it's against there operating agreement. It's all the detail they got. Usually it's really difficult to appeal against these things. So I thought we'd better be safe than sorry. Any I think most revenue would come from the store or searchplugin anyway. So let's promote that. Jaap On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 15:19, Stormy Peters wrote: > Hi Jaap, > > That's really too bad. Did they give any more details? > > Stormy > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I was contacted by the people of iHeartMiro and they said that Amazon >> disabled their account because according to Amazon it violated their >> operating agreement. So if you installed the Firefox addon please >> uninstall it. I've already removed it from addons.mozilla.org >> >> Regards, >> >> Jaap >> -- >> marketing-list mailing list >> marketing-list@gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: September Marketing Tasks
> • Release notes (I've been writing the release notes - should be done > tonight. If anyone wants to help proofread, let me know and I'll get > you the password to the review site) I can help out with this if its ok. Regards Shane Fagan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: What is GNOME?
On 09/08/2009 02:30 PM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >> Our current web pages are pretty much for people that already know what >> > GNOME is, but we might want to rethink that as we roll out the new webpage. >> > >> > I think it's a marketing problem. Thoughts? > I think we should break it down to these: > > A project that aims to make computer accessible to everyone (in the > wider possible meaning of accessible, 0 cost, accessible, > localized...), this is the BIG meaning. > > Then this big meaning gets broken down to these 3 main approaches to > achieve the goal: > * An opensource desktop environment for open source operating systems. > (This needs a non-geeky wording approach though) (Freedom for users) > *A complete set of tools for developers to create apps for such > environment. (Freedom for developers) > * An online, world-wide community of people joined together for the > pursue of GNOME's goals. I think it boils down to the big problem for any website which is establishing your target audience and going after them. As soon as you split the target into Users and Developers, or even New Users and Old Users, your homepage will immediately be less helpful or relevant to any of those groups. In cases like this, it's usually best to go with the least 'in' group- the visitors new to GNOME, so they can just arrive and get the information at a glance. Long time GNOME users can handle a button or link to take them to community content and developers likewise should be able to handle an obvious link to targeted content. I think Alberto has the groups right but if you try to focus on three groups on the homepage you'll make it ineffective. Regards, Dave Lyon http://eazely.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: What is GNOME?
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > > Good point, and I actually think that old users don't use > www.gnome.org that much, so we should prioritize the "I know pretty > much nothing about GNOME user" case. However, easy to reach pointers > for other possible audiences (potential developers, potential > community members) should be pointed at others parts of the website > more or less obviously. > Actually, I think we would have the most impact reaching out to the people that kind of know what GNOME is, are open source fans but don't really know what GNOME is. Our developers and fans will use live.gnome.org or can easily be directed to a new spot on the website. The newbies will be very hard to educate. But the people that are users or fans but not following all the mailing lists, those might be the ones to target with the web page. They are also the people donating to Friends of GNOME and as Diego says, they might be most open to our humanitarian causes. Just a thought. Make it easy for the experts to find what they need, target our fans who aren't members of the project, and not worry too much about the newbies quite yet. Stormy > > > In cases like this, it's usually best to go with the least 'in' group- > > the visitors new to GNOME, so they can just arrive and get the > > information at a glance. Long time GNOME users can handle a button or > > link to take them to community content and developers likewise should be > > able to handle an obvious link to targeted content. > > > > I think Alberto has the groups right but if you try to focus on three > > groups on the homepage you'll make it ineffective. > > > > Regards, > > Dave Lyon > > http://eazely.com > > -- > > marketing-list mailing list > > marketing-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > > > > > > -- > Un saludo, > Alberto Ruiz > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Fwd: U of T Computer Science Student Union
Anybody in the Toronto area want to check this out? (I'm thinking it would make more sense to attend than to just give them stuff to hand out.) Stormy -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:29 PM Subject: U of T Computer Science Student Union To: sto...@gnome.org Hi Stormy Peters, I am a representative of the Computer Science Student Union at the University of Toronto. The CSSU is responsible for representing the greater interests of the computer science student body at the University of Toronto. As such we at the CSSU would like to inquire about your interest in providing promotional materials for your company at a CSSU student event. These promotional materials would be items, such as branded pens, stickers, disks with trial/opensource versions of software, that can be used to create awareness of your company within the student populace. We would then distribute these items at student events, such as first year orientation, to the students in attendance. We have found that companies in the past who have provided us with these kinds of materials have profited greatly from the level of attention they receive from the students in a manner they may not have been able to receive otherwise. Many companies have commented on how difficult it can be to create a presence at the university due to the restricitions imposed and processing normally required by the university in order to distribute materials on campus, but as an organization of our nature we are able to bypass most of these difficulties. If you are interested in providing your own promotional materials at a CSSU student event or require more details please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you, Rohan Chandra External Liaison Computer Science Student Union University of Toronto -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: What is GNOME?
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 11:24 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: > I met with Denise last week and she pointed out: > * It's very hard to tell what GNOME is from our web pages. If > you don't know when you land on gnome.org, you aren't likely > to figure it out. An "easy to understand desktop" doesn't > really mean anything to non desktop/OS developers. When you go > to About GNOME, you get a list of our values/features but not > a definition, screenshot or list of projects. Just a small comment: >From my personal experience, people feels more interested and motivated when they perceive our work as humanitarian and 'making the world better' style. Specially I'd say that "What we do" plus "Why we do it" are points to be crafted carefully with this in mind. Friends of GNOME is a good example of this. just that :-) -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: U of T Computer Science Student Union
Stormy, JP is based in Toronto, he might be able to participate (though is time is certainly limited). JP, you know anything about U of T and their Computer Science Student Union? Is this something GNOME should participate in? Would you be able to? Best regards, -Guy On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 19:58 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: > Anybody in the Toronto area want to check this out? (I'm thinking it > would make more sense to attend than to just give them stuff to hand > out.) > > Stormy > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: > Date: Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:29 PM > Subject: U of T Computer Science Student Union > To: sto...@gnome.org > > > Hi Stormy Peters, > > I am a representative of the Computer Science Student Union at the > University of Toronto. The CSSU is responsible for representing the > greater > interests of the computer science student body at the University of > Toronto. > As such we at the CSSU would like to inquire about your interest in > providing promotional materials for your company at a CSSU student > event. > These promotional materials would be items, such as branded pens, > stickers, > disks with trial/opensource versions of software, that can be used to > create > awareness of your company within the student populace. We would then > distribute these items at student events, such as first year > orientation, to > the students in attendance. > > We have found that companies in the past who have provided us with > these > kinds of materials have profited greatly from the level of attention > they > receive from the students in a manner they may not have been able to > receive > otherwise. Many companies have commented on how difficult it can be to > create a presence at the university due to the restricitions imposed > and > processing normally required by the university in order to distribute > materials on campus, but as an organization of our nature we are able > to > bypass most of these difficulties. > > If you are interested in providing your own promotional materials at a > CSSU > student event or require more details please do not hesitate to > contact me. > > Thank you, > > Rohan Chandra > External Liaison > Computer Science Student Union > University of Toronto > > > > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: U of T Computer Science Student Union
Behdad lives in Toronto. Ryan lives *near* Toronto. I have included both individuals in this email. There may be other GNOME ethusiasts who live in Toronto. Just my two cents. Clare On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Stormy Peters wrote: > Anybody in the Toronto area want to check this out? (I'm thinking it would > make more sense to attend than to just give them stuff to hand out.) > > Stormy > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: > Date: Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:29 PM > Subject: U of T Computer Science Student Union > To: sto...@gnome.org > > > Hi Stormy Peters, > > I am a representative of the Computer Science Student Union at the > University of Toronto. The CSSU is responsible for representing the greater > interests of the computer science student body at the University of Toronto. > As such we at the CSSU would like to inquire about your interest in > providing promotional materials for your company at a CSSU student event. > These promotional materials would be items, such as branded pens, stickers, > disks with trial/opensource versions of software, that can be used to create > awareness of your company within the student populace. We would then > distribute these items at student events, such as first year orientation, to > the students in attendance. > > We have found that companies in the past who have provided us with these > kinds of materials have profited greatly from the level of attention they > receive from the students in a manner they may not have been able to receive > otherwise. Many companies have commented on how difficult it can be to > create a presence at the university due to the restricitions imposed and > processing normally required by the university in order to distribute > materials on campus, but as an organization of our nature we are able to > bypass most of these difficulties. > > If you are interested in providing your own promotional materials at a CSSU > student event or require more details please do not hesitate to contact me. > > Thank you, > > Rohan Chandra > External Liaison > Computer Science Student Union > University of Toronto > > > > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: U of T Computer Science Student Union
Eh, indeed I was approached with the original request for marketing materials and I think I sent them towards Stormy and the list. I'd be happy to attend campus events, sure. behdad On 09/08/2009 10:21 PM, Clare So wrote: Behdad lives in Toronto. Ryan lives *near* Toronto. I have included both individuals in this email. There may be other GNOME ethusiasts who live in Toronto. Just my two cents. Clare On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Stormy Peters wrote: Anybody in the Toronto area want to check this out? (I'm thinking it would make more sense to attend than to just give them stuff to hand out.) Stormy -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:29 PM Subject: U of T Computer Science Student Union To: sto...@gnome.org Hi Stormy Peters, I am a representative of the Computer Science Student Union at the University of Toronto. The CSSU is responsible for representing the greater interests of the computer science student body at the University of Toronto. As such we at the CSSU would like to inquire about your interest in providing promotional materials for your company at a CSSU student event. These promotional materials would be items, such as branded pens, stickers, disks with trial/opensource versions of software, that can be used to create awareness of your company within the student populace. We would then distribute these items at student events, such as first year orientation, to the students in attendance. We have found that companies in the past who have provided us with these kinds of materials have profited greatly from the level of attention they receive from the students in a manner they may not have been able to receive otherwise. Many companies have commented on how difficult it can be to create a presence at the university due to the restricitions imposed and processing normally required by the university in order to distribute materials on campus, but as an organization of our nature we are able to bypass most of these difficulties. If you are interested in providing your own promotional materials at a CSSU student event or require more details please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you, Rohan Chandra External Liaison Computer Science Student Union University of Toronto -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
