Re: Spreading the word about 2.28
2009/9/22 Diego Escalante Urrelo die...@gnome.org: On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 14:08 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: I like Built to Share. (Sounds like built to last.) Freedom to share? Sharing freedom? What about GNOME 2.28: Forged to Share? Roberto -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Theme for Summit 2009, need everyone's feedback
Dear Stormy, I vote for Freedom with GNOME too, but a minor suggestion, can we add a call for action in the slogan? like Step into Freedom with GNOME? step into maybe a bit long, but any 1 word means the same? :) Thanks, Pockey On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:24 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: I vote for Freedom with GNOME. My second choice would be something with a subtitle. Discover GNOME: Your Free Desktop. I'm not sure I'd use the word accessible in the title. At least in English it's not an easy word to say. And obviously I'd like to defer to people that know the local language and culture ... Stormy P.S. Brian, I think we could add the word software to your title, and don't forget usability! Discover Accessing Freedom With Easy-to-Use GNOME - Your Free Software Desktop On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.com wrote: Emily: How about Discover Accessing Freedom With GNOME - Your Desktop Just joking. Brian 1. Discover GNOME 3.0 2. Discover GNOME 3. Discover GNOME - Your Accessible Desktop 4. Discover GNOME - The Accessible Desktop 5. Discover GNOME - Access Your Desktop 6. Access Your Desktop - Discover GNOME 7. Discover your desktop with GNOME 8. Access your desktop with GNOME 9. GNOME your desktop 10.Freedom with GNOME more ... Thanks, Emily ___ asia-summit-list mailing list asia-summit-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/asia-summit-list ___ asia-summit-list mailing list asia-summit-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/asia-summit-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Theme for Summit 2009, need everyone's feedback
Hi, I also think Freedom with GNOME is good, and it is translated well in Vietnamese. Hong Phuc On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Get Freedom with GNOME? Stormy On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Pockey Lam poc...@beijinglug.org wrote: Dear Stormy, I vote for Freedom with GNOME too, but a minor suggestion, can we add a call for action in the slogan? like Step into Freedom with GNOME? step into maybe a bit long, but any 1 word means the same? :) Thanks, Pockey On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 10:24 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: I vote for Freedom with GNOME. My second choice would be something with a subtitle. Discover GNOME: Your Free Desktop. I'm not sure I'd use the word accessible in the title. At least in English it's not an easy word to say. And obviously I'd like to defer to people that know the local language and culture ... Stormy P.S. Brian, I think we could add the word software to your title, and don't forget usability! Discover Accessing Freedom With Easy-to-Use GNOME - Your Free Software Desktop On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.com wrote: Emily: How about Discover Accessing Freedom With GNOME - Your Desktop Just joking. Brian 1. Discover GNOME 3.0 2. Discover GNOME 3. Discover GNOME - Your Accessible Desktop 4. Discover GNOME - The Accessible Desktop 5. Discover GNOME - Access Your Desktop 6. Access Your Desktop - Discover GNOME 7. Discover your desktop with GNOME 8. Access your desktop with GNOME 9. GNOME your desktop 10.Freedom with GNOME more ... Thanks, Emily ___ asia-summit-list mailing list asia-summit-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/asia-summit-list ___ asia-summit-list mailing list asia-summit-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/asia-summit-list ___ asia-summit-list mailing list asia-summit-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/asia-summit-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: FSF, terminology, and marketing
I'm looking askance at this. I find the arguments in favor of GNU/ Linux to be specious: if you examine the makeup of early Linux distros, following the FSF's reasoning would obligate one to call it X/GNU/Linux, at least. Further, I'm troubled at the idea that we'd attempt to conform to FSF ideas on terms like intellectual property and open source. Few distros refer to themselves as GNU/Linux, and the mainstream media never uses the term. It's unclear to me, with the numerous other things we could be usefully doing, why we'd choose to spend energy on a, frankly quixotic, terminology crusade. Shall we advise folks to avoid buying Harry Potter books as well? __ Sent from my Steve-Phone On Sep 19, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.com wrote: Paul: Claus, thanks for the email, and your quotes from Miguel are helpful. I think you bring up a good point as we are mostly, with the exception of Stormy and Rosanna, a volunteer staff. True. Perhaps, the GNOME community can recommend terminology for volunteers and/or help explain the reasoning behind the word choices so we make sure that volunteers are educated and can decide for themselves. However, it may be inappropriate to try and dictate which term any volunteer should use. A more thorny issue is what language should be used by the Foundation board of directors and those employees of the Foundation. Those people represent the GNOME community and we really need help from the community to ensure that we use the language that the community would prefer that we use. Since many of the documents that board members and employees contribute to are marketing-related, it is also useful to get the perspective of the marketing team. While many of the responses have been rather ambivalent and leaning against the term GNU/Linux, I think we also need to consider whether there are any contexts where using the FSF recommended terminology is appropriate. For example, if we do a press release about something directly related to the FSF, then perhaps it does make sense to make more of an effort to use the terminology they recommend. Or do we feel so strongly against using their terminology that we think that is a bad idea to use GNU/Linux in any context? Brian - do we have a list of terminology the FSF would prefer us to use other than free software and GNU/Linux? That is a really good question. As we all know, terms like free software and open software are confusing since words like free and open have many meanings. The FSF does feel that language is very important and that it is important to be careful to use the best words. Here is an essay that Richard Stallman wrote to provide guidance on this topic: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html I would think it would make good sense for anybody involved with free software, and especially those on the marketing team, to be (at the very least) aware and familiar with this information. If the GNOME community uses terminology that the FSF finds disagreeable, we should probably not do so out of ignorance. Taking a step back and thinking about this, if we were creating a style guide for our volunteers, what would some of that terminology be? I don't think this email thread needs to turn into style guide requirements, but it might be helpful to understand what the FSF is asking for. I am not sure that we need a style guide, but it would perhaps be useful to know if the GNOME community endorses these sorts of FSF recommendations, and to what degree. Then, at least, we know what we agree and disagree about. Brian -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing hackfest?
A couple of questions for the whole group: * Do you think a marketing hackfest is a good idea? * Would you be interested in attending? (If it was at a good time and place for you.) * Would you attend one around the Boston Summit? Thanks, Stormy On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: I think this is an excellent idea. Hackfests are especially helpful, not only for the energy they create, but the opportunity to plan your writing in a group environment. This was one of the big takeaways we learned at the Documentation hackfest earlier this year, and there was a presentation on it. Having the ability to sit down, brainstorm, plan and write a first draft for all the different projects we have in the pipeline would be an excellent use of time. Paul On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Lefty (石鏡 ) le...@shugendo.org wrote: It’s looking like I’m going to be in Tokyo around that time, unfortunately. On 9/17/09 9:16 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: There might be an opportunity to have a marketing hackfest around the Boston Summit time frame. If so, who would be interested in coming? Would you be able to make it to the Boston Summit? I think it would be an excellent opportunity to kick off a lot of the projects we've been talking about from a press kit, to information for people going to events, to a CRM system, to the case studies, ... (I personally can not make it to the Boston Summit but I could come out the day/week after.) Stormy -- -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing hackfest?
* Do you think a marketing hackfest is a good idea? : Yes, very * Would you be interested in attending? (If it was at a good time and place for you.) : Yes * Would you attend one around the Boston Summit? : Yes Thanks! Paul On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: I think this is an excellent idea. Hackfests are especially helpful, not only for the energy they create, but the opportunity to plan your writing in a group environment. This was one of the big takeaways we learned at the Documentation hackfest earlier this year, and there was a presentation on it. Having the ability to sit down, brainstorm, plan and write a first draft for all the different projects we have in the pipeline would be an excellent use of time. Paul On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Lefty (石鏡 ) le...@shugendo.org wrote: It’s looking like I’m going to be in Tokyo around that time, unfortunately. On 9/17/09 9:16 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: There might be an opportunity to have a marketing hackfest around the Boston Summit time frame. If so, who would be interested in coming? Would you be able to make it to the Boston Summit? I think it would be an excellent opportunity to kick off a lot of the projects we've been talking about from a press kit, to information for people going to events, to a CRM system, to the case studies, ... (I personally can not make it to the Boston Summit but I could come out the day/week after.) Stormy -- -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Spreading the word about 2.28
Hey all, Just to get something started I created an initial page: http://live.gnome.org/PromoteTwoPointTwentyTwo Please, increment and improve the content there! I wonder if we should have a more readable url like www.gnome.org/promote/2.28 that redirects to this wiki page. Another crazy idea would be something like www.gnome.org/madetoshare or something. Ideas? --lucasr 2009/9/19 Lucas Rocha luc...@gnome.org: Hi, Some simple ideas of things we could do to better spread the word about our new release (i.e. make it easier to let others promote the new release): - Links to quickly post a comment in Facebook/Identi.ca/Twitter/Digg about the release. Funny phrases would be a plus. Ideas? - Release banner to post on your blog. We always informally copy/resize/edit the front page banner to post something in our blogs about the release. The results are not always nice. Maybe we should just have a wiki page with proper images for blog posts or something. This could all be in a wiki page like: http://live.gnome.org/Promote2.28 or something like this. Thoughts? --lucasr -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 2.28 banner
Hi Vinicius, I think we agreed that Made to share is a good slogan for the release. Could you prepare a banner with it? --lucasr 2009/9/19 Lucas Rocha luc...@gnome.org: Hi all, As usual, we need a wgo front page banner for the 2.28 release. Cc'ing Andreas and Vinicius who helped on this task on previous releases. Ideas for a message that summarizes well the release are welcome. Cheers! --lucasr -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
