Re: gnome miro community
Hi, will kahn-greene wrote: > Just for clarification, I work for PCF and PCF maintains the system that > Gnome Miro Community is on, but the software is a Django app released > under the AGPL. I can get it moved to any system you want. I'm running > Gnome Miro Community in my free time because I thought it would help > Gnome--this is not a PCF endeavor. When I said commercial, I meant "using the GNOME brand to leverage a commercial product" - that doesn't appear to be happening with Miro, so it doesn't really come into play. > This Miro Community is set up such that all submitted videos have to be > accepted by a curator (admin). I think that's true of user comments, too. > > I hope Gnome Miro Community doesn't turn into a porn site. I was joking. Really. Should've smileyed, I guess. But in general, trademark usage does need some kind of a quality guarantee. > I'll work through these soon. > > Thank you! No - thank you! The site looks great. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Communicating to users what GNOME 3.0 is
I think we need an official GNOME 3.0 web page. It can then point to other blog posts and places for discussion. I think we have a lot of excellent content from the blog posts, an interview Vincent did a while back, etc. Is someone willing to pull that together and edit it into a GNOME 3.0 page? Stormy On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Christer Edwards < christer.edwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Shane Fagan > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I finished up on my post about Debunking Gnome 3 Myths its here > > http://shanefagan.com/2010/01/15/debunking-the-gnome-3-myths/ its up on > > planet ubuntu but I dont have access to planet Gnome or anywhere else. > > I thought I'd throw out links to my two articles as well. Shane's post > seems to be getting a lot of feedback, and I've dropped my links > there, but the rest of the list might want to refer to them. > > The articles aren't focused on the myth-vs-truth aspect, but more > geared toward how to install and test it. I find that the conversation > gets going well when users are able to actually try it for themselves > and offer feedback. The following outline GNOME Shell and Gnome > Activity Journal / Zeitgeist. > > > http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2009/11/02/install-gnome-shell-on-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/ > > http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/01/19/preview-gnome-activity-journal-zeitgeist-on-ubuntu-9-10/ > > -- > Christer Edwards > .: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com :. > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: gnome miro community
On 01/20/2010 01:06 PM, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, will kahn-greene wrote: Is it the case that anyone can use Gnome branding? Absolutely not. Any commercial use of GNOME branding requires an agreement. What Sven refers to as "fair use" is using GNOME brands to refer to GNOME, or the GNOME community. Just for clarification, I work for PCF and PCF maintains the system that Gnome Miro Community is on, but the software is a Django app released under the AGPL. I can get it moved to any system you want. I'm running Gnome Miro Community in my free time because I thought it would help Gnome--this is not a PCF endeavor. I'm more than happy to share the responsibilities curating the site. I'm happy to pass the torch if you folks think someone else is better suited for the work. In this case, I don't think there would be any problem - the only potential issues for brand reuse I can see there are including videos not related to GNOME, or inappropriate for the GNOME brand. But then Miro is not (yet?) a porn distribution network. This Miro Community is set up such that all submitted videos have to be accepted by a curator (admin). I think that's true of user comments, too. I hope Gnome Miro Community doesn't turn into a porn site. That's great! I'm not in any rush. I'll just keep on keeping on for the time being. There are a number of related resources like screencasts which would also be appropriate for inclusion. This isn't complete, but it is a few of them: http://projects.gnome.org/accessibility/screencasts.html http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Screencasts http://live.gnome.org/Accerciser#tutorials http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaktya_gnomeshell-screencast_tech http://showmedo.com/videotutorials/GNOME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLx4LiMtM4Y&feature=youtu.be&a > There are lots here: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=screencast+GNOME&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=MjpXS5GGLMuv4QaP74i2Aw&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CCMQqwQwAw# I'll work through these soon. Thank you! /will -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME track at Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit
Hi, Stormy Peters wrote: > The Linux Foundation has offered to host a GNOME track at the > Collaboration Summit. Is anyone interested in coordinating that? I'm interested in attending, but what would the GNOME track be about? We have found ourselves in competition in the agenda in previous years with power management, desktop Linux, packaging, embedded linux and a number of other sessions which attendees wanted to attend in addition to the GNOME or GNOME Mobile track. So what would be on the agenda? Do we open a call for contributions & organise presentations & brainstorming sessions? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: gnome miro community
Hi, will kahn-greene wrote: > Is it the case that anyone can use Gnome branding? Absolutely not. Any commercial use of GNOME branding requires an agreement. What Sven refers to as "fair use" is using GNOME brands to refer to GNOME, or the GNOME community. In this case, I don't think there would be any problem - the only potential issues for brand reuse I can see there are including videos not related to GNOME, or inappropriate for the GNOME brand. But then Miro is not (yet?) a porn distribution network. > That's great! I'm not in any rush. I'll just keep on keeping on for > the time being. There are a number of related resources like screencasts which would also be appropriate for inclusion. This isn't complete, but it is a few of them: http://projects.gnome.org/accessibility/screencasts.html http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Screencasts http://live.gnome.org/Accerciser#tutorials http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaktya_gnomeshell-screencast_tech http://showmedo.com/videotutorials/GNOME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLx4LiMtM4Y&feature=youtu.be&a There are lots here: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=screencast+GNOME&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=MjpXS5GGLMuv4QaP74i2Aw&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CCMQqwQwAw# > The only issue that exists right now is that short of a few dents and a > blog entry from John (J5), I don't think there's been much mention of > the Gnome Miro Community site. I don't think many people know about it. > If the plan involves using Gnome Miro Community, the plan also needs to > make the site more prominent. Sounds like a plan. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Volunteering for Texas Linux Fest
Hi Chuck, Sorry for the delayed reply. On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Chuck Payne wrote: > Hello Stormy, > > I am writing this e-mail to volunteer for helping out at the Gnome > Table at Texas Linux Fest on April 10th, in Austin, Texas. > Awesome. We really need someone to coordinate the whole GNOME booth. :) So arrange for the GNOME event box to be there, set up the booth, make sure someone is manning it at all appropriate times and then tear it down and send it back. The set up and tear down is very easy. The box itself is very large and a bit awkward but I'm assuming you could have it sent directly to the venue. Zonker will also be there to help as he is giving a keynote. We might have someone local to help as well. > > I can also give a talk on the openSUSE community, a talk that give at > Atlanta Linux Fest and show off our latest release 11.2 and talk a bit > about the up and coming 11.3. Or I can give a talk on SUSE Studio, one > of the great online tools, that can let anyone build their own live > distro. I am not sure if any other people will be there from openSUSE, > I can check with Joe to see who will be there but could also help out > there as well as an openSUSE rep. > And of course you should submit a talk and show off openSUSE and GNOME! You'll have to submit your talk proposals directly to the conference. > > I understand that you are offering travel sponsorship and I would that > but I am willing to come in early to help out any other way I can. But > lift tables, chairs, clean up, or where every I am needed. > Yes, we have a budget for travel to represent GNOME at events. You'll have to officially apply for it to the travel committee. [1] But I wouldn't think it would be a problem if you are coordinating the booth. The only caveat is that the preference is to have someone local (to save money and build community) but so far we don't have any definites there. So apply soon! > > Just a little back ground on me. I been an openSUSE Ambassador since > last May and a member of openSUSE community since November 2009. I > have been a Linux user since 1998 starting out with Slackware, but > after my system crash I move on to Red Hat and then S.u.S.E where I > have stay ever since. I love given back to community any way I can, I > am not a programmer, but a System Administrator, so I can share real > world experience with everyone. I currently work for the Travel > Channel as Unix System Administrator, were I take care of Red Hat, > Solaris and Macintosh OS X servers. > > I hope that I can meet you and help out at the Texas Linux Fest. > > I would like to meet you as well. I won't be at the Texas Linux Fest though - that'd be all you! And Zonker. And whatever local volunteers we can recruit. Stormy [1] http://live.gnome.org/Travel -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME track at Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit
I'm expecting to be at the Collab Summit. I can do it if no one else is available. __ Sent from my Steve-Phone On Jan 20, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Stormy Peters wrote: The Linux Foundation has offered to host a GNOME track at the Collaboration Summit. Is anyone interested in coordinating that? Stormy Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit Held in conjunction with the CELF Embedded Linux Conference and hosted by platinum sponsors IBM and Intel. Additional sponsors include Google, Intel, and Nokia. April 14 - 16, 2010 San Francisco, Calif. This event is an exclusive, invitation-only summit where key Linux stakeholders meet face-to-face to advance and create initiatives that address the most pressing opportunities for Linux today. http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/collaboration-summit/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Accepting donations from mobile phones
Bharat, Have you followed up with them to explain that we were directed to them as part of the http://www.mobilegiving.org/ application process? Stormy On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Stormy Peters wrote: > My understanding was that the nonprofit - the second link in the email I > sent - sets it up for you and handles all the fees. We don't work directly > with the providers but through them. > > If not, then http://www.mgive.com is cheaper but I don't think we should > do it if we have to pay $100's a month. We can't justify it. > > Stormy > > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Bharat Kapoor <3.kap...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Team >> >> >> >> Here we go, with a response from one of the MGF’s ASPs. >> >> >> >> IN summary we are looking at: >> >> $700 in setup fee & $420/month + ).11/transaction (200 transactions free) >> >> >> >> Do we have data on how much we could looking at leveraging from this >> method. I can mail other ASPs too and see their pricing structure. But I >> don’t see us getting this for free. >> >> >> >> Advise >> >> Bharat Kapoor >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* stormy.pet...@gmail.com [mailto:stormy.pet...@gmail.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Stormy Peters >> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2010 12:49 PM >> *To:* Bharat Kapoor >> *Cc:* GNOME Marketing List >> *Subject:* Re: Accepting donations from mobile phones >> >> >> >> Maybe you could send and cc me. :) >> >> You can use sto...@gnome.org or direc...@gnome.org. >> >> Keep this up and you'll have an @gnome.org address soon. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Stormy >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Bharat Kapoor <3.kap...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Stomry >> >> I looked at their site and to get the application material we need to >> mail one of the ASPs >> >> g8wave Inc. Jeff Ostiguyj...@g8wave.com >> Give by Cell Dave Asheim d...@givebycell.com >> Give on the Go, LLC.Albert J. Angela...@giveonthego.com >> iLoop Mobile, Inc. Shannon Burgess >> shannon.burg...@iloopmobile.com >> Mobile Cause George Morales supp...@mobilecause.com >> Mobile Commons Jed Alpert j...@mcommons.com >> MPower Giving Don Feuer d...@mpowergiving.com >> Russ Reid, Inc.Tom Hooperthoo...@russreid.com >> Wireless Factory Melody Page m...@wirelessfactory.com >> >> Once contacted we need to send a mail to: supp...@mobilegiving.org. >> >> Happy to do so, but it would help if the email went thru someone whit >> a Gnome email address (I dont have one). If you think that will not be >> an issue I'd be happy to send the mail and followup on this process. >> >> Best Regards >> Bharat >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Stormy Peters wrote: >> > >> > Today I saw this article: >> > >> http://www.frogloop.com/care2blog/2010/1/15/nonprofits-time-to-get-mobile.html >> > >> > Which points to this nonprofit service that covers the fees and passes >> on 100% of the donations: (no fees!) >> > http://www.mobilegiving.org/ >> > >> > From their FAQ and guidelines, it looks like GNOME more than qualifies. >> Anyone willing to fill out their application and see if we can get GNOME in >> the program? >> > >> > Stormy >> > >> > >> >> > -- >> > marketing-list mailing list >> > marketing-list@gnome.org >> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list >> > >> >> >> > > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: gnome miro community
On 01/20/2010 10:49 AM, Sven Herzberg wrote: >> Is it the case that anyone can use Gnome branding? > > IIRC, the foundation has always tolerated what I would call "fair-use" > of the logo. But the foundation's board would be the best persons to > talk to about legal things. Correct. I don't think you need to contact foundation board for this particular use case. But if you want to be on the safe side, please email bo...@gnome.org. Cheers, behdad PS. I really like the idea of collecting all GNOME videos in one place. Thanks! > Regards, > Sven > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME track at Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit
Hi What is involved from our side. I can definitely look into it (was involved with CELF for 5 years - while I was at Mot) Cheers Bharat On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Stormy Peters wrote: > The Linux Foundation has offered to host a GNOME track at the Collaboration > Summit. Is anyone interested in coordinating that? > > Stormy > > Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit > Held in conjunction with the CELF Embedded Linux Conference and hosted by > platinum sponsors IBM and Intel. Additional sponsors include Google, Intel, > and Nokia. > April 14 - 16, 2010 > San Francisco, Calif. > This event is an exclusive, invitation-only summit where key Linux > stakeholders meet face-to-face to advance and create initiatives that > address the most pressing opportunities for Linux today. > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/collaboration-summit/ > > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME track at Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit
The Linux Foundation has offered to host a GNOME track at the Collaboration Summit. Is anyone interested in coordinating that? Stormy Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit Held in conjunction with the CELF Embedded Linux Conference and hosted by platinum sponsors IBM and Intel. Additional sponsors include Google, Intel, and Nokia. April 14 - 16, 2010 San Francisco, Calif. This event is an exclusive, invitation-only summit where key Linux stakeholders meet face-to-face to advance and create initiatives that address the most pressing opportunities for Linux today. http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/collaboration-summit/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: gnome miro community
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 20.01.2010, 10:20 -0500 schrieb will kahn-greene: > On 01/20/2010 09:44 AM, Paul Cutler wrote: > > On 01/19/2010 05:00 PM, will kahn-greene wrote: > >> > >> Can I use some of the Gnome branding on the site? In particular, I'd > >> love to put the Gnome foot in the banner instead of the "I have > >> no icon" image. > > > > Regarding the logo, this page has some guidelines: > > http://live.gnome.org/BrandGuidelines. > > I should have mentioned that I've seen that page. I don't think it > states the licensing of those logos and it doesn't talk about who can > use them and whether there are any restrictions for what they can be > used with. The thing that page does cover is what's allowed in terms of > derivatives of the foot logo and what transformations can be applied. > > So unless I'm reading that page wrong or I'm missing something, it > doesn't answer my question. > > Is it the case that anyone can use Gnome branding? IIRC, the foundation has always tolerated what I would call "fair-use" of the logo. But the foundation's board would be the best persons to talk to about legal things. Regards, Sven -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: gnome miro community
On 01/20/2010 09:44 AM, Paul Cutler wrote: On 01/19/2010 05:00 PM, will kahn-greene wrote: >> >> Can I use some of the Gnome branding on the site? In particular, I'd >> love to put the Gnome foot in the banner instead of the "I have >> no icon" image. > Regarding the logo, this page has some guidelines: http://live.gnome.org/BrandGuidelines. I should have mentioned that I've seen that page. I don't think it states the licensing of those logos and it doesn't talk about who can use them and whether there are any restrictions for what they can be used with. The thing that page does cover is what's allowed in terms of derivatives of the foot logo and what transformations can be applied. So unless I'm reading that page wrong or I'm missing something, it doesn't answer my question. Is it the case that anyone can use Gnome branding? We have plans to use video as a marketing tool this year for the GNOME 3.0 launch. I'm hopeful we'll have more details and start to work on a plan in the next 30 days. That's great! I'm not in any rush. I'll just keep on keeping on for the time being. The only issue that exists right now is that short of a few dents and a blog entry from John (J5), I don't think there's been much mention of the Gnome Miro Community site. I don't think many people know about it. If the plan involves using Gnome Miro Community, the plan also needs to make the site more prominent. /will -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: gnome miro community
On 01/19/2010 05:00 PM, will kahn-greene wrote: > Hi! > > I wrote a comment on Paul Cutler's blog entry last week about the Gnome > Marketing Meeting and he said I should subscribe to this list because > this is where the magic happens. > > I work for PCF and we released a web application called Miro Community. > It allows a group of editors to curate videos with a particular focus > regardless of where they exist on the Internet. > > I put together a Gnome Miro Community last month: > >http://gnome.mirocommunity.org/ > > I thought that a Miro Community focusing on Gnome things would bring > together all this video material that's floating around out there and > make it easier for: > > 1. developers to come up to speed on Gnome technologies and future > > 2. users to keep track of what's going on and what's ahead > > 3. developers and users to communicate about what's being built versus > uses cases and requirements > > The first thing I did was find the GUADEC videos, pull them into Gnome > Miro Community and add description information from the GUADEC 2009 > wiki. Since then, I've been adding videos from here and there, > primarily from YouTube as they get created and videos that I bump into > from Planet Gnome and Planet Ubuntu. I'm happy to continue curating and > I'm also happy to bring on other curators. > > My questions are these: > > What can I do to help Gnome marketing? Where can Gnome Miro Community > make a difference? > > Are there videos out there that aren't in the system that should be? > > Are there other conferences that are generating video that should get > pulled into the site? > > Can I use some of the Gnome branding on the site? In particular, I'd > love to put the Gnome foot in the banner instead of the "I have no icon" > image. > > Are there other videos that I should be "featured"? Right now I have > Quim Gil's GUADEC 2009 keynote, Owen Taylor's GUADEC 2009 Introduction > to Gnome Shell, and a presentation on Gnome Zeitgeist. > > Are there other questions I should be asking? > > /will Will, Thanks for joining the list and sending an introduction! As far as your questions, I'm not sure of the answers, hopefully someone on the list will speak up. Regarding the logo, this page has some guidelines: http://live.gnome.org/BrandGuidelines. We have plans to use video as a marketing tool this year for the GNOME 3.0 launch. I'm hopeful we'll have more details and start to work on a plan in the next 30 days. Paul -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
