Re: Introductions

2010-02-11 Thread Brian Cameron


Hello, my name is Brian Cameron and there is some information about me
here:

  http://live.gnome.org/BrianCameron

I have worked for Sun Microsystems (now becoming Oracle) for over 10
years, over 8 of those years on the GNOME project.  I am on the GNOME
Foundation board of directors and acting as the secretary.

I am really more of a developer than a marketing person, but I have
been involved with marketing-related discussions for the past few
years, and attended the last Marketing hackfest in Chicago.  Any board
member often deals with marketing topics and opportunities, and one of
the reasons I participate is because I think the GNOME marketing-list
is one of the more important GNOME forums for board members to be
involved with.

I also tend to work closely with the GNOME legal team, and I tend to
get involved with marketing issues that involve working with the legal
team.

For example, one marketing related task I am currently working on with
the legal team is to put together more comprehensive trademark
agreements so that GNOME is better prepared to license the GNOME brand
to organizations who want to sell GNOME branded merchandise.

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Re: Introductions

2010-02-11 Thread Nelson Marques
 Brian,

 I can provide some documentation regarding Brand Management if you
need. This is actually a complex subject. If you need help I can help
with it as well.

 There's a very good publication from Philip Kotler (currently the top
personality in Marketing) named "Brand Management", there is also a
chapter in "Marketing Management" (the bible of Marketing) which covers
some points.

 I have a large collection of books which I can share with whoever wants
to take a look.

 Meanwhile I'll just compile some stuff that I have from my university
which might be useful.

 Anything you need, just ask.

 Nelson.

 PS: I would assume GNOME is going to be taken as an "Umbrella brand",
correct?

> On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 09:23 -0600, Brian Cameron wrote:
> > Hello, my name is Brian Cameron and there is some information about me
> > here:
> > 
> >http://live.gnome.org/BrianCameron
> > 
> > I have worked for Sun Microsystems (now becoming Oracle) for over 10
> > years, over 8 of those years on the GNOME project.  I am on the GNOME
> > Foundation board of directors and acting as the secretary.
> > 
> > I am really more of a developer than a marketing person, but I have
> > been involved with marketing-related discussions for the past few
> > years, and attended the last Marketing hackfest in Chicago.  Any board
> > member often deals with marketing topics and opportunities, and one of
> > the reasons I participate is because I think the GNOME marketing-list
> > is one of the more important GNOME forums for board members to be
> > involved with.
> > 
> > I also tend to work closely with the GNOME legal team, and I tend to
> > get involved with marketing issues that involve working with the legal
> > team.
> > 
> > For example, one marketing related task I am currently working on with
> > the legal team is to put together more comprehensive trademark
> > agreements so that GNOME is better prepared to license the GNOME brand
> > to organizations who want to sell GNOME branded merchandise.
> > 
> > Brian
> 



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Re: Issue 19 Planning

2010-02-11 Thread Nelson Marques
 Paul,

 I've decided to change the scope of the article into something more
interesting.

 I'm going to make the article based on interviews. I am waiting for
AHEAD Reply and I'm going to take the suggestion from Luís and also
interview the developers of Brasero.

 In addition I'm also contacting developers of Evince and Adobe
regarding Acrobat Reader.

 I'm also going to include a small interview with Richard Stallman
(already confirmed) and I'm waiting on Miguel de Icaza, which I also
contacted.

 The scope of the article will be the following:

 From the point of view of a possible new migrating user from
proprietary to open source what will he find on a free software
platform, and how both free software and proprietary products are
presented.

 I'm going to include a mini-SWOT (Strength/Weaknesses,
Opportunity/Threats) analysis applied to products used for the same end
(ie. Nero VS Brasero and Adobe Acrobat Reader VS Evince). What are the
major concerns behind each of them and how their development is oriented
and to which ends. This is interesting for our area aswel, as it will
include Product Management strategies and Product Mix information.

 So would this kind of article be suitable for GNOME Journal? It's a
generic article which I would believe that fits in the scope of our
Marketing Team and Free Software promotion.

 Any suggestions opinions will be considered of course. 

 Thanks,
 nelson.

On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 15:12 -0600, Paul Cutler wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 15:00 -0600, Paul Cutler wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Thanks to everyone who worked on getting GNOME Journal Issue 18 out the
> > door -  now it's time to plan the next issue!  I'm copying the marketing
> > list too as we're always looking for new writers or new article ideas.
> > 
> > I've updated our main wiki page[1] to reflect an aggressive publication
> > schedule for 2010.  One of my personal goals is for GJ to continue to
> > publish on a regular schedule with lots of coverage of GNOME 3.0 this
> > year.
> > 
> > Sumana and others have put some work in to our Article Wishlist page[2]
> > over the last few months - is there anyone out there that wants to try
> > their hand at writing an article?  Or if you have ideas for articles,
> > please add them.
> > 
> > For Issue 19, we have Jono Bacon writing an article on opportunistic
> > programming and I've followed up with Stormy on a potential interview
> > with an Advisory Board member.  
> > 
> > Any one else want to try and write an article?  (Maybe a Behind the
> > Scenes interview with Seif about Zeitegeist?) Submissions would be due
> > approximately March 10th for an April 1st publication date[3].
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > [1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeJournal
> > [2] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeJournal/ArticleWishlist
> > [3] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeJournal/ArticleSubmissionQueue
> > 
> 
> Just to add a couple more thoughts to to anyone who may be interested in
> writing an article:
> 
> My goal is to have 3-6 articles per issue, including a developer type
> article, an interview and / or Behind the Scenes, an application review,
> and a GNOME or GNOME 3.0 related article.
> 
> If any of those interest you, let the GJ team know!  We're also open to
> helping new authors or collaborating too.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Paul
> 



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Re: Issue 19 Planning

2010-02-11 Thread Claus Schwarm
Hi,

you may want to check the guidelines about article length: I think
you're trying to cover too much ground in one move. It's either going
to be too long and boring or about right and superficial. Your
interview partners may not be satisfied with the result.

Just my 2cents.


Regards,
Claus


On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Nelson Marques <07...@ipam.pt> wrote:
>  Paul,
>
>  I've decided to change the scope of the article into something more
> interesting.
>
>  I'm going to make the article based on interviews. I am waiting for
> AHEAD Reply and I'm going to take the suggestion from Luís and also
> interview the developers of Brasero.
>
>  In addition I'm also contacting developers of Evince and Adobe
> regarding Acrobat Reader.
>
>  I'm also going to include a small interview with Richard Stallman
> (already confirmed) and I'm waiting on Miguel de Icaza, which I also
> contacted.
>
>  The scope of the article will be the following:
>
>  From the point of view of a possible new migrating user from
> proprietary to open source what will he find on a free software
> platform, and how both free software and proprietary products are
> presented.
>
>  I'm going to include a mini-SWOT (Strength/Weaknesses,
> Opportunity/Threats) analysis applied to products used for the same end
> (ie. Nero VS Brasero and Adobe Acrobat Reader VS Evince). What are the
> major concerns behind each of them and how their development is oriented
> and to which ends. This is interesting for our area aswel, as it will
> include Product Management strategies and Product Mix information.
>
>  So would this kind of article be suitable for GNOME Journal? It's a
> generic article which I would believe that fits in the scope of our
> Marketing Team and Free Software promotion.
>
>  Any suggestions opinions will be considered of course.
>
>  Thanks,
>  nelson.
>
> On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 15:12 -0600, Paul Cutler wrote:
>> On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 15:00 -0600, Paul Cutler wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Thanks to everyone who worked on getting GNOME Journal Issue 18 out the
>> > door -  now it's time to plan the next issue!  I'm copying the marketing
>> > list too as we're always looking for new writers or new article ideas.
>> >
>> > I've updated our main wiki page[1] to reflect an aggressive publication
>> > schedule for 2010.  One of my personal goals is for GJ to continue to
>> > publish on a regular schedule with lots of coverage of GNOME 3.0 this
>> > year.
>> >
>> > Sumana and others have put some work in to our Article Wishlist page[2]
>> > over the last few months - is there anyone out there that wants to try
>> > their hand at writing an article?  Or if you have ideas for articles,
>> > please add them.
>> >
>> > For Issue 19, we have Jono Bacon writing an article on opportunistic
>> > programming and I've followed up with Stormy on a potential interview
>> > with an Advisory Board member.
>> >
>> > Any one else want to try and write an article?  (Maybe a Behind the
>> > Scenes interview with Seif about Zeitegeist?) Submissions would be due
>> > approximately March 10th for an April 1st publication date[3].
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
>> > [1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeJournal
>> > [2] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeJournal/ArticleWishlist
>> > [3] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeJournal/ArticleSubmissionQueue
>> >
>>
>> Just to add a couple more thoughts to to anyone who may be interested in
>> writing an article:
>>
>> My goal is to have 3-6 articles per issue, including a developer type
>> article, an interview and / or Behind the Scenes, an application review,
>> and a GNOME or GNOME 3.0 related article.
>>
>> If any of those interest you, let the GJ team know!  We're also open to
>> helping new authors or collaborating too.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Paul
>>
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Re: What keywords would you use for GNOME?

2010-02-11 Thread Claus Schwarm
I see. Looks like a theory worth to be tested. It's often hard to
predict how a particular audience reacts.


Regards,
Claus

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Stormy Peters  wrote:
> I think that people that click on "Support GNOME" aren't necessarily looking
> to make a financial donation. We should present them with all the ways they
> can support GNOME from using it to talking about it to supporting it
> financially.
>
> There is also good sociological research that says if you ask for a lot
> first (contributing code) and people say no, they are much more likely to
> say yes to a smaller request ($20). In one experiment people went door to
> door asking if people would help by taking foster kids to the zoo, when they
> said no, they asked for a financial donation. It was much more successful
> than when they just asked for money.
>
> We might get more contributors and more donors!
>
> Stormy
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Claus Schwarm 
> wrote:
>>
>> Stormy,
>>
>> yes, or course. We can test as many variations at the same time as we
>> want. Just a matter of URLs (or maybe the dynamic generation of the
>> page.)
>>
>> However, the more variations you test simultaneously, the more people
>> you need to take part in the experiment. (Which usually means, a single
>> experiment runs longer.)
>>
>> Why do you want the mission and support stuff on the friends page? All
>> this is covered on other pages. It is not relevant to visitors of
>> Friends of GNOME.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Claus
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 07:45 -0700, Stormy Peters wrote:
>> > I think the new landing page should cover:
>> >
>> > * GNOME's mission
>> > * How you can support GNOME
>> >   * Use GNOME (with a link to how to get it)
>> >   * Spread the word
>> >   * Contribute (code, docs, etc)
>> >   * Donate
>> >
>> > Can we test multiple versions?
>> >
>> > Stormy
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Claus Schwarm
>> >  wrote:
>> >         On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 17:51 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo
>> >         wrote:
>> >         > El mar, 09-02-2010 a las 12:13 +0100, Claus Schwarm
>> >         escribió:
>> >         > >
>> >         > > For this, we would need at least
>> >         > >
>> >         > >   * a second url (say, "www.gnome.org/b/friends") for a
>> >         variation of the
>> >         > >     friends page (and maybe related pages)
>> >         >
>> >         > With extra information and the assumption that people coming
>> >         there do
>> >         > not have any idea what's GNOME?
>> >         >
>> >
>> >
>> >         Hi, Diego!
>> >
>> >         At first, the "www.gnome.org/b/friends" URL would be a full
>> >         copy of
>> >         "www.gnome.org/friends".
>> >
>> >         In a second step, we would change whatever we think needs
>> >         testing in
>> >         the /b/ URL. The original remains untouched. We'd then have
>> >         two
>> >         variations of the same page.
>> >
>> >         Then, we would test copy and layout changes in the /b/
>> >         variation,
>> >         measure the effects on donations and if we find a statistical
>> >         difference, we implement the better variation.
>> >
>> >         Rinse, repeat.
>> >
>> >         For more information, see http://www.abtests.com/ for examples
>> >         and case
>> >         studies.
>> >
>> >         For more information on Google Website Optimizer, see its
>> >         homepage and
>> >         the tutorial videos.
>> >
>> >
>> >         Regards,
>> >         Claus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: Issue 19 Planning

2010-02-11 Thread Jim Hodapp
Nelson,

I'd say go ahead and go with this plan and if it ends up being far too 
long, we could always break it up into a multi-issue article. That sounds 
really interesting! I look forward to reading the interviews that you have 
lined up.

Thanks,

Jim


On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Nelson Marques wrote:

> Paul,
> 
> I've decided to change the scope of the article into something more
> interesting.
> 
> I'm going to make the article based on interviews. I am waiting for
> AHEAD Reply and I'm going to take the suggestion from Luís and also
> interview the developers of Brasero.
> 
> In addition I'm also contacting developers of Evince and Adobe
> regarding Acrobat Reader.
> 
> I'm also going to include a small interview with Richard Stallman
> (already confirmed) and I'm waiting on Miguel de Icaza, which I also
> contacted.
> 
> The scope of the article will be the following:
> 
> From the point of view of a possible new migrating user from
> proprietary to open source what will he find on a free software
> platform, and how both free software and proprietary products are
> presented.
> 
> I'm going to include a mini-SWOT (Strength/Weaknesses,
> Opportunity/Threats) analysis applied to products used for the same end
> (ie. Nero VS Brasero and Adobe Acrobat Reader VS Evince). What are the
> major concerns behind each of them and how their development is oriented
> and to which ends. This is interesting for our area aswel, as it will
> include Product Management strategies and Product Mix information.
> 
> So would this kind of article be suitable for GNOME Journal? It's a
> generic article which I would believe that fits in the scope of our
> Marketing Team and Free Software promotion.
> 
> Any suggestions opinions will be considered of course. 
> 
> Thanks,
> nelson.
> 
> On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 15:12 -0600, Paul Cutler wrote:
>> On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 15:00 -0600, Paul Cutler wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Thanks to everyone who worked on getting GNOME Journal Issue 18 out the
>>> door -  now it's time to plan the next issue!  I'm copying the marketing
>>> list too as we're always looking for new writers or new article ideas.
>>> 
>>> I've updated our main wiki page[1] to reflect an aggressive publication
>>> schedule for 2010.  One of my personal goals is for GJ to continue to
>>> publish on a regular schedule with lots of coverage of GNOME 3.0 this
>>> year.
>>> 
>>> Sumana and others have put some work in to our Article Wishlist page[2]
>>> over the last few months - is there anyone out there that wants to try
>>> their hand at writing an article?  Or if you have ideas for articles,
>>> please add them.
>>> 
>>> For Issue 19, we have Jono Bacon writing an article on opportunistic
>>> programming and I've followed up with Stormy on a potential interview
>>> with an Advisory Board member.  
>>> 
>>> Any one else want to try and write an article?  (Maybe a Behind the
>>> Scenes interview with Seif about Zeitegeist?) Submissions would be due
>>> approximately March 10th for an April 1st publication date[3].
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> [1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeJournal
>>> [2] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeJournal/ArticleWishlist
>>> [3] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeJournal/ArticleSubmissionQueue
>>> 
>> 
>> Just to add a couple more thoughts to to anyone who may be interested in
>> writing an article:
>> 
>> My goal is to have 3-6 articles per issue, including a developer type
>> article, an interview and / or Behind the Scenes, an application review,
>> and a GNOME or GNOME 3.0 related article.
>> 
>> If any of those interest you, let the GJ team know!  We're also open to
>> helping new authors or collaborating too.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
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Re: Issue 19 Planning

2010-02-11 Thread Nelson Marques
Claus,

I understand your concern, but I'm gonna publish the article under:

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/us/ 

and will make it also available in OpenDocument Format and PDF. You can
actually make the Abstract and if possible a link for a download of the
article in a free format :)

Well, the main idea is still there, except I've eliminated GNOME to
avoid editorial cuts and any disambiguation of the brand. My goal is
still the same, show our community and readers how corporations create a
product based on marketing information, and how they select their users.
I trully hope this inspires people to participate more, and evolve our
products to a higher standard when it comes to target end users and
newcomers.

 Nelson.

On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 20:33 +0100, Claus Schwarm wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> you may want to check the guidelines about article length: I think
> you're trying to cover too much ground in one move. It's either going
> to be too long and boring or about right and superficial. Your
> interview partners may not be satisfied with the result.
> 
> Just my 2cents.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Claus
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Nelson Marques <07...@ipam.pt> wrote:
> >  Paul,
> >
> >  I've decided to change the scope of the article into something more
> > interesting.
> >
> >  I'm going to make the article based on interviews. I am waiting for
> > AHEAD Reply and I'm going to take the suggestion from Luís and also
> > interview the developers of Brasero.
> >
> >  In addition I'm also contacting developers of Evince and Adobe
> > regarding Acrobat Reader.
> >
> >  I'm also going to include a small interview with Richard Stallman
> > (already confirmed) and I'm waiting on Miguel de Icaza, which I also
> > contacted.
> >
> >  The scope of the article will be the following:
> >
> >  From the point of view of a possible new migrating user from
> > proprietary to open source what will he find on a free software
> > platform, and how both free software and proprietary products are
> > presented.
> >
> >  I'm going to include a mini-SWOT (Strength/Weaknesses,
> > Opportunity/Threats) analysis applied to products used for the same end
> > (ie. Nero VS Brasero and Adobe Acrobat Reader VS Evince). What are the
> > major concerns behind each of them and how their development is oriented
> > and to which ends. This is interesting for our area aswel, as it will
> > include Product Management strategies and Product Mix information.
> >
> >  So would this kind of article be suitable for GNOME Journal? It's a
> > generic article which I would believe that fits in the scope of our
> > Marketing Team and Free Software promotion.
> >
> >  Any suggestions opinions will be considered of course.
> >
> >  Thanks,
> >  nelson.
> >
> > On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 15:12 -0600, Paul Cutler wrote:
> >> On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 15:00 -0600, Paul Cutler wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks to everyone who worked on getting GNOME Journal Issue 18 out the
> >> > door -  now it's time to plan the next issue!  I'm copying the marketing
> >> > list too as we're always looking for new writers or new article ideas.
> >> >
> >> > I've updated our main wiki page[1] to reflect an aggressive publication
> >> > schedule for 2010.  One of my personal goals is for GJ to continue to
> >> > publish on a regular schedule with lots of coverage of GNOME 3.0 this
> >> > year.
> >> >
> >> > Sumana and others have put some work in to our Article Wishlist page[2]
> >> > over the last few months - is there anyone out there that wants to try
> >> > their hand at writing an article?  Or if you have ideas for articles,
> >> > please add them.
> >> >
> >> > For Issue 19, we have Jono Bacon writing an article on opportunistic
> >> > programming and I've followed up with Stormy on a potential interview
> >> > with an Advisory Board member.
> >> >
> >> > Any one else want to try and write an article?  (Maybe a Behind the
> >> > Scenes interview with Seif about Zeitegeist?) Submissions would be due
> >> > approximately March 10th for an April 1st publication date[3].
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Paul
> >> >
> >> > [1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeJournal
> >> > [2] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeJournal/ArticleWishlist
> >> > [3] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeJournal/ArticleSubmissionQueue
> >> >
> >>
> >> Just to add a couple more thoughts to to anyone who may be interested in
> >> writing an article:
> >>
> >> My goal is to have 3-6 articles per issue, including a developer type
> >> article, an interview and / or Behind the Scenes, an application review,
> >> and a GNOME or GNOME 3.0 related article.
> >>
> >> If any of those interest you, let the GJ team know!  We're also open to
> >> helping new authors or collaborating too.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >
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Re: Introductions

2010-02-11 Thread Paul Cutler
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 21:49 +, Nelson Marques wrote:
> I would like to ask one thing to this list, would it be possible for
> people to introduce themselfs and say what is their role around on the
> list?
> 
>  Thanks in advance.

Hi,

I'm Paul, and I help out with the Sysadmin team, help publish GNOME
Journal, maintain documentation for a few different projects and try to
herd cats with the Marketing team, including trying to manage some of
the Marketing projects, schedule team meetings and other stuff.

More info at:

http:/.live.gnome.org/PaulCutler
http://www.silwenae.org/blog

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Re: Communication Plan Matrix

2010-02-11 Thread Paul Cutler
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 22:15 +, Nelson Marques wrote:
> Many apologies for this list, I've attached the wrong file.
> 
> Here is the right file and it's also on the reply I made for Diego, the
> file I attached was a dummy sketch of an article I'm working.
> 
> Sorry.
> 
> nelson
> 
> On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 21:14 +, Nelson Marques wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > 
> >  Everyone should see the attachment included, despite of your role on
> > this list as it covers everything related to GNOME.
> >  With the upcoming GNOME 3.0 release, this is actually my first real
> > contribution for this list, and I would suggest that we work this out,
> > as this isn't a one man job.
> > 
> >  In attachment there's a normal marketing driven communication plan
> > matrix. I've added some personal notes, so basically what we need to do
> > is to fill it accordingly so it can be used as a tool to promote GNOME
> > in a uniform way through all the GNOME related communcation channels.
> > 
> >  Everything should be fore casted here, I do understand that we don't
> > have much statistical data to support, this is one of the reasons why
> > I've been battling to get a normal survey platform we can use.
> > 
> >  I would appreciate that everyone on this list would comment and would
> > be involved, because despite this is a normal communication plan used by
> > most organizations (specially commercial/proprietary ones), it's the
> > very basics for a successful marketing campaign.
> > 
> >   My question is, should we start preparing ourselfvs for a GNOME 3.0
> > marketing oriented release ?
> > 
> >   Everyone from developers, to juridical people, marketing, artists, etc
> > have one point or another that can contribute to perform this task.
> > 
> >   People running this list, I can't accomplish such thing by myself, now
> > it should be time where we start our wicked plan for Desktop domination.
> > 
> >   Sorry for the wall of text.
> > 
> >   Nelson
> > 
> >  PS: This goes as a PDF with a format I've made, I don't know GNOME's
> > position about this, this is just to serve as a Matrix, so if there are
> > standards from GNOME related to formating and so on, please point me in
> > the right way so I can start working on it and submit a workable
> > version. Since this includes everyone, I feel the need to push a bit
> > forth the documentation sharing system being discussed in the parallel
> > on this list. 

Hi Nelson,

Thanks for putting this together.

I'd also recommend you look through some of the Marketing Wiki pages[1].
I also started something similar last year with a Marketing Brief that
covers some similar topics.[2]  Additionally, we've been brainstorming
possible marketing campaigns for GNOME 3.0[3], and at our recent
hackfest this past September we landed on a theme, and I have a to-do
from our meeting last month to work with the hackfest team and get it
documented on the wiki (which I'm behind on).

We're having a team meeting this Saturday at 16:00 UTC as well.

Thanks.

Paul



[1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing
[2] http://live.gnome.org/MarketingBrief2009
[3] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeThreeBrainstorming


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Re: Friends of GNOME December & January Data

2010-02-11 Thread Jaap A. Haitsma
I think the easy solution is to syndicate the foundation blog. I don't
see the fundamental reason why this should not be on Planet GNOME.

My feeling is that the taking turns thing won't work. At least sofar I
have not seen hands going up. If a few more people are willing to join
I don't mind joining the taking turn thing.

Jaap

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 02:47, Stormy Peters  wrote:
> I can definitely post them on the Foundation blog. To be honest, I stopped
> doing that because I wasn't sure they got read there. Things on Planet
> obviously get a lot more visibility. We could do both. I can blog on the
> Foundation blog and people can continue to take turns talking about it on
> Planet ...
>
> The Foundation blog is not syndicated on Planet because it isn't an
> individual ...
>
> Stormy
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma  wrote:
>>
>> Why not publish these things on the foundation blog. Because my
>> experience is that these things don't work well if multiple people
>> have to to it
>>
>> If I were you I'd post the weekly updates you do also on that blog.
>>
>> I believe that that blog is not on planet GNOME for some weird reason.
>>
>> Jaap
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 19:58, Stormy Peters  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Stormy,
>> >>
>> >> I suggest you post these updates also to your blog as that probably
>> >> leads to much more traffic to friends of GNOME instead of posting it
>> >> here.
>> >
>> > I'd prefer that we had different people blog it every month. I don't
>> > really
>> > want to promote this every month on my personal blog. (I have lots of
>> > non-GNOME friends and people that read my blog and I think this is like
>> > asking them for money every month and I already feel like I do that. :)
>> >
>> > Volunteers?
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Maybe also nice if you can approach some friendly journalist that
>> >> write an article about Friends of GNOME program etc. etc.
>> >
>> > I think we have a couple on this list ... all of us should talk about
>> > Friends of GNOME whenever we can. And help others in the community to do
>> > so
>> > as well.
>> >
>> > Stormy
>> >
>
>
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