Re: GNOME - Gnome

2010-04-07 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 08:50 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:


 Our brand recognition seems to be mostly within the FOSS group.
  People really don't know GNOME they know Ubuntu/Fedora/SuSE etc but
 they don't really know the software that runs their desktop.  There is
 no recognizable branding in any of those desktops.
 
 
 Even in gnome-shell I don't know that I'm using GNOME.  Our brand is
 non-existent in the shell.  No icon, no wording, nothing.
 
 
 Changing GNOME's name now could prove distracting but also IMHO
 ineffective as long as our branding is hidden behind distros.
 
 

So true! The important question is: 'How do we get the existing brand
into the minds of the people?'

Changing the name would destroy all the work, the time and the efforts
already invested into Gnome as a brand. It makes existing resources more
complicated to use (think web archives) and confuses consumers and
developers alike.

It has no real benefit, other than getting rid of some historical links.
Why waste time with considerations like this?


Claus

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Re: GNOME - Gnome

2010-04-07 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 18:28 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
 Hi Andre,
 
 Andre Klapper wrote:
  Am Dienstag, den 06.04.2010, 08:08 -0500 schrieb Bharat Kapoor:
  At least now I know what GNOME is an acronym for :)
  The talk is about name or rename (if our mission is consistent with)
  GNU Network Object Model Environment
  
  Once again: GNOME WAS an acronym. GNOME is NOT anymore an acronym.
  GNOME stands for GNOME nowadays. Only. That's all.
 
 Except, that's not a good answer.
 
 If that's the case, then GNOME can be Gnome or gnome or GnoMe or
 whatever. All caps implies acronym, and thus people will ask what it
 stands for. And if you answer it doesn't stand for anything, the most
 likely answer is that's stupid.
 

No, people in general don't give a damn. They have better things to do
than wondering about the capitals. Anybody recognizing capitals as an
acronym is a geek or nerd -- hardly the majority of people.

Normal people -- if they even wonder about the capitals -- consider them
part of some marketing stuff and then go on with their lives.

They would never ask: 'What does GNOME stand for?'

If they ever ask, it's more in the lines of 'How came it was called
GNOME?' or 'Why is it called GNOME?'

And what's wrong with telling people how this happened? It's part of
GNOME's history and this is never going to change.


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Re: GNOME - Gnome

2010-04-07 Thread Murray Cumming
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 18:28 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
  Once again: GNOME WAS an acronym. GNOME is NOT anymore an acronym.
  GNOME stands for GNOME nowadays. Only. That's all.
 
 Except, that's not a good answer.
 
 If that's the case, then GNOME can be Gnome or gnome or GnoMe or
 whatever. All caps implies acronym, and thus people will ask what it
 stands for. And if you answer it doesn't stand for anything, the
 most
 likely answer is that's stupid. 

Yes. I also think its time to start calling it Gnome.

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Re: GNOME - Gnome

2010-04-07 Thread Hylke Bons
 Yes. I also think its time to start calling it Gnome.

You can call it whatever you want.

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[Fwd: Team updates needed for the 2010 Q1 GNOME Quarterly Report by Wednesday, April 14th]

2010-04-07 Thread Paul Cutler
Hi Marketing team!

Does anyone want to help put together the team update for the first
quarter?  Let me know, the help would be appreciated!

Thanks.

Paul
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Thanks everyone for your help with past reports - we continue to get
positive feedback! It's time for the Q1, January-March, 2010 report.

Please send your updates in by Wednesday, April 14th.  I will then get the
report out by Friday, April 23rd. (With Vinicius' help. :)

Here's the list of people I have. Let me know if I'm missing anyone or it
should be someone else.

   - Release Team -- Vincent Untz
   - Art Team -- Andreas Nilsson
   - Accessibility Team -- Willie Walker
   - Usability Team -- Calum Benson
   - Bug Squad -- Andre Klapper
   - Marketing Team -- Paul Cutler
   - Sysadmin Team -- Paul Cutler
   - Mobile -- Dave Neary
   - Website -- Lucas Rocha
   - Localization -- Simos Xenitellis
   - Documentation Team -- Shaun McCance
   - Events - Stormy Peters (looking for an enthusiastic reporter!)
   - Membership - Tobias Mueller
   - Finance - Germán Póo-Caamaño
   - Travel Committee - Bharath Acharya
   - Board Report - Brian Cameron
   - Women's Outreach - Marina Zhurakhinskaya

Remember, an update, any update (short, brief, long, not perfect) is better
than no update. I'll proof read and spell check.

Most people run their reports by the team mailing list before sending them
to me - I think that is a great idea.

Thanks!

Stormy

P.S. Here's are the reports for reference:
http://foundation.gnome.org/reports/
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