Re: Video conferencing application

2010-12-15 Thread Pockey Lam

Dear Dave, Diego, Joey, Sriam,

Thank you for your help! I already gave all the suggestions to the 
Taiwan GUG members and asked them to do some testing. Will keep you 
posted of the result. Besides, they will definitely let us know if they 
need further help!


Thanks,
Pockey

On 12/15/2010 07:55 AM, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:

El mar, 14-12-2010 a las 19:13 +0100, Joey Ferwerda escribió:

What about just using Gtalk?

Its not open source, but it is free software!


I guess you meant voice/video over jabber, which is what gtalk uses and
what Empathy can also do.

Empathy can work fine for this I guess. But likely telepathy developers
can suggest something else. Maybe even a hardcoded program only for this
event. AFAIK there was work on multiuser video chat.



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Re: Video conferencing application

2010-12-15 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org wrote:

 Dear Dave, Diego, Joey, Sriam,

 Thank you for your help! I already gave all the suggestions to the Taiwan
 GUG members and asked them to do some testing. Will keep you posted of the
 result. Besides, they will definitely let us know if they need further help!


Thanks, Pockey, if you find something that works please do let us know as
I'm sure that other would be interested in doing something similar.

sri



 Thanks,
 Pockey


 On 12/15/2010 07:55 AM, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:

 El mar, 14-12-2010 a las 19:13 +0100, Joey Ferwerda escribió:

 What about just using Gtalk?

 Its not open source, but it is free software!

  I guess you meant voice/video over jabber, which is what gtalk uses and
 what Empathy can also do.

 Empathy can work fine for this I guess. But likely telepathy developers
 can suggest something else. Maybe even a hardcoded program only for this
 event. AFAIK there was work on multiuser video chat.


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open source bridge/ oscon / northwest linuxfest

2010-12-15 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
So, March - August I believe is going to have a number of conferences in the
northwest.  (U.S.) and I am planning on putting in presentations for Gnome 3
for each of the conferences in the subject line.

The first I believe is in March with open source bridge which seems to be a
pretty good fit.  I would like to start working with people on getting some
idea of what Gnome 3 will look like by March and then figure out how to put
out a presentation.  I have approximately 3 months to put together the
materials.

sri
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Re: open source bridge/ oscon / northwest linuxfest

2010-12-15 Thread Paul Cutler
Hi Sri,

I'll be happy to work on it with you.  I think I'm going to update my
GNOME 3 presentation I gave at OLF last year and do it at SCALE this
coming February so I'll have some content for you.

Paul

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
 So, March - August I believe is going to have a number of conferences in the
 northwest.  (U.S.) and I am planning on putting in presentations for Gnome 3
 for each of the conferences in the subject line.

 The first I believe is in March with open source bridge which seems to be a
 pretty good fit.  I would like to start working with people on getting some
 idea of what Gnome 3 will look like by March and then figure out how to put
 out a presentation.  I have approximately 3 months to put together the
 materials.

 sri

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Re: open source bridge/ oscon / northwest linuxfest

2010-12-15 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote:

 Hi Sri,

 I'll be happy to work on it with you.  I think I'm going to update my
 GNOME 3 presentation I gave at OLF last year and do it at SCALE this
 coming February so I'll have some content for you.


Great!  I have already booked a presentation on LinuxFest Northwest.  If we
work on it now we'll be able to identify the holes and get people to cover
them.

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Re: Video conferencing application

2010-12-15 Thread Pockey Lam

Dear all,

Yeah, we would definitely use video conferencing (and / or broadcasting 
tool) to connect events from different venues around the world.


What we have tested so far:

Ekiga -- cannot even make one on one video chat on the same network, sip 
calls didn't work, and the only thing that we managed to get working is 
voice in the conference room. just wonder if anybody made Ekiga video 
chat work? what's the trick?


Tested some online services on Firefox or Chromium, Linux:

1) dimdim.com -- new plugin (they say it's compulsory) doesn't work on 
Firefox Linux = for free / trial account.  not able to make even one on 
one work

2) webhuddle.com -- only support voice and we cannot make it work
3) Yugma -- invite contact doesn't work on Linux

We are also testing and sourcing a reliable video / sound broadcasting 
tool as well:


bigbluebutton --- cannot detect my camera, I guess it's a flash issue...

Pockey

On 12/16/2010 03:04 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:



On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org 
mailto:pockey...@gnome.org wrote:


Dear Dave, Diego, Joey, Sriam,

Thank you for your help! I already gave all the suggestions to the
Taiwan GUG members and asked them to do some testing. Will keep
you posted of the result. Besides, they will definitely let us
know if they need further help!


Thanks, Pockey, if you find something that works please do let us know 
as I'm sure that other would be interested in doing something similar.


sri


Thanks,
Pockey


On 12/15/2010 07:55 AM, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:

El mar, 14-12-2010 a las 19:13 +0100, Joey Ferwerda escribió:

What about just using Gtalk?

Its not open source, but it is free software!

I guess you meant voice/video over jabber, which is what gtalk
uses and
what Empathy can also do.

Empathy can work fine for this I guess. But likely telepathy
developers
can suggest something else. Maybe even a hardcoded program
only for this
event. AFAIK there was work on multiuser video chat.


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Re: Video conferencing application

2010-12-15 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org wrote:

  Dear all,

 Yeah, we would definitely use video conferencing (and / or broadcasting
 tool) to connect events from different venues around the world.

 What we have tested so far:

 Ekiga -- cannot even make one on one video chat on the same network, sip
 calls didn't work, and the only thing that we managed to get working is
 voice in the conference room. just wonder if anybody made Ekiga video chat
 work? what's the trick?


I'm surprised Ekiga didn't work.  Have you asked in #ekiga on IRC?  Those
guys are pretty good in helping.

Gosh all this fail in video conferencing depresses me.  I remember looking
for such a solution for Linux Plumbers Conference.  We had gotten a
government official as a keynote (which ultimately fell through) and he
would only do it via video conferencing.  I knew then that our video
conferencing fu is not very strong and that was a year ago as it was nearly
impossible to find something that would work especially following the
standard video conferencing protocols that the government was using.

Meh.

Talk to Zaheer, he might know as well.  He's been doing some work with
setting up Fluendo (although he no longer works for them).  I'm not aware of
anybody else doing anything with video conferencing.  But it's a big hole in
free desktops.

sri
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Re: Video conferencing application

2010-12-15 Thread Frederic Muller

On 12/16/2010 01:21 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:



On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org
mailto:pockey...@gnome.org wrote:

Dear all,

Yeah, we would definitely use video conferencing (and / or
broadcasting tool) to connect events from different venues around
the world.

What we have tested so far:

Ekiga -- cannot even make one on one video chat on the same network,
sip calls didn't work, and the only thing that we managed to get
working is voice in the conference room. just wonder if anybody made
Ekiga video chat work? what's the trick?


I'm surprised Ekiga didn't work.  Have you asked in #ekiga on IRC?
Those guys are pretty good in helping.

Gosh all this fail in video conferencing depresses me.  I remember
looking for such a solution for Linux Plumbers Conference.  We had
gotten a government official as a keynote (which ultimately fell
through) and he would only do it via video conferencing.  I knew then
that our video conferencing fu is not very strong and that was a year
ago as it was nearly impossible to find something that would work
especially following the standard video conferencing protocols that the
government was using.

Meh.

Talk to Zaheer, he might know as well.  He's been doing some work with
setting up Fluendo (although he no longer works for them).  I'm not
aware of anybody else doing anything with video conferencing.  But it's
a big hole in free desktops.

sri

Well it seems there is maybe a (discontinued) project called MPEG4IP 
http://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/ which explains how to built a 
sound/video streaming system. It's a bit more complicated but could 
work. I'll continue search in that direction and see what can easily 
be deployed. I guess a page listing all the available streams on that 
day would work very well too.


Fred
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