Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).

2011-02-15 Thread Ismael Barros²
Hi there,

We are FreeWear.org, we've reached an agreement with the GNOME
Foundation to sell GNOME T-shirts.

You can check them at:
    http://www.freewear.org/?org=GNOMEFoundation

In order to boost sales and therefore donations to the GNOME
Foundation, we have asked for a link to our website on the GNOME
website (http://gnome.org), and we got redirected here to discuss the
issue.

In a nutshell: with all other organizations we've reached an agreement
in which we donate them a fixed amount of money per T-shirt and we get
in exchange a link in their website, either in the front page, in the
news feed or in the merchandise page, to our online catalog for that
organization. It's our way to ensure that Gimp, Vim, KDE, Cherokee,
BSD or Python lovers, among others, can find their merchandise, and
help their respective organizations.

Would it be possible to get such a link at http://www.gnome.org?

Regards,
Ismael


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De: Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.com
Fecha: 4 de febrero de 2011 17:04
Asunto: Re: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).
Para: Ramón Villaverde r.villave...@freewear.org
Cc: board-l...@gnome.org



Ramón:

 We attached the Donations report for January 2011.

Thanks.  No sales yet I see.

 Could be possible a link to FreeWear.org in gnome.org
 http://gnome.org? I honestly believe that this would improve the
 sales, and consequently the donations.

Typically the GNOME Marketing team makes decisions about how to
update the GNOME website.  Could you start a discussion about this
on the GNOME marketing list?

 http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list

If so, that would likely be the fastest way to work with the
GNOME community to improve this.

Brian



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Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).

2011-02-15 Thread Dave Neary

Hi,

Ismael Barros² wrote:
 In order to boost sales and therefore donations to the GNOME
 Foundation, we have asked for a link to our website on the GNOME
 website (http://gnome.org), and we got redirected here to discuss the
 issue.

Paul, how is the GNOME Store on Zazzle coming along? I'm all for
supporting merchandising agreements we make, and the FreeWear guys are
cool, but I don't want to divert revenue away from us, if we have a
better option.

If the Zazzle store is operational, we should leverage that. And we
should have some GNOME 3 goodies for sale for the release date!

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).

2011-02-15 Thread Juanjo Marín


--- El mar, 15/2/11, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org escribió:

 De: Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org
 Asunto: Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).
 Para: GNOME Marketing List marketing-list@gnome.org
 Fecha: martes, 15 de febrero, 2011 10:08
 
 Hi,
 
 Ismael Barros² wrote:
  In order to boost sales and therefore donations to the
 GNOME
  Foundation, we have asked for a link to our website on
 the GNOME
  website (http://gnome.org), and we got redirected here to
 discuss the
  issue.
 
 Paul, how is the GNOME Store on Zazzle coming along? I'm
 all for
 supporting merchandising agreements we make, and the
 FreeWear guys are
 cool, but I don't want to divert revenue away from us, if
 we have a
 better option.
 
 If the Zazzle store is operational, we should leverage
 that. And we
 should have some GNOME 3 goodies for sale for the release
 date!
 

Hi !

The FreeWear is a store that traditionally worked with us, at least in Spain (I 
think they produce the t-shirts for the GUADEC held in Spain and other local 
events).

I think we should have a policy for the marketing agreements. Though I don't 
really know if we already have one. If this agreedment was approved, I guess we 
are ok giving non-exclusive permissions and we are ok with competing offers. I 
think there are other open questions like if all the merchandising material on 
sale should be approved or not by us. 

BTW, It seems that the Spanish Zazzle store, zazzle.es, doesn't have a page for 
all the GNOME products, and some of them are called el GNOMO products (it 
seems they are translated automatically)

http://www.zazzle.es/logotipo_horizontal_del_gnomo_camiseta-235423661381377863

Cheers,

  -- Juanjo Marin


  
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Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).

2011-02-15 Thread Pockey Lam

On 02/15/2011 05:42 PM, Juanjo Marín wrote:

Hi !
The FreeWear is a store that traditionally worked with us, at least in Spain (I 
think they produce the t-shirts for the GUADEC held in Spain and other local 
events).
In this case, shall we consider to link them at GNOME Hispano page - 
http://www.es.gnome.org/

it's like KDE, they link them at http://www.kdehispano.es/
but I don't find any freewear link at kde.org yet

I think we should have a policy for the marketing agreements. Though I don't 
really know if we already have one. If this agreedment was approved, I guess we 
are ok giving non-exclusive permissions and we are ok with competing offers. I 
think there are other open questions like if all the merchandising material on 
sale should be approved or not by us.

BTW, It seems that the Spanish Zazzle store, zazzle.es, doesn't have a page for all the 
GNOME products, and some of them are called el GNOMO products (it seems they 
are translated automatically)

http://www.zazzle.es/logotipo_horizontal_del_gnomo_camiseta-235423661381377863

Cheers,

   -- Juanjo Marin





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Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).

2011-02-15 Thread Paul Cutler
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:
 Paul, how is the GNOME Store on Zazzle coming along? I'm all for
 supporting merchandising agreements we make, and the FreeWear guys are
 cool, but I don't want to divert revenue away from us, if we have a
 better option.

 If the Zazzle store is operational, we should leverage that. And we
 should have some GNOME 3 goodies for sale for the release date!

The Zazzle store has been operational for almost a year now.

Zazzle does a good job of selling in multiple currencies, but some
users prefer other, sometimes local, options.  The Board works with
other companies who also pay us a royalty and we don't have issues
with multiple stores, as long as they sign our trademark agreements
and we have a workable business relationship, which we do with
Freewear.

Getting some GNOME 3 stuff up is a good idea, the t-shirt contest
should be announced in the next day or two, and those will be added.
I'll ping Andreas as well.

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Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).

2011-02-15 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Paul Cutler wrote:
 The Zazzle store has been operational for almost a year now.

It seems like we're quite low-key about promoting it. How about
including a link to the GNOME Love mug  a link to the store on the
front page? The text paragraph fades into the background a bit among the
news  other text.

 Zazzle does a good job of selling in multiple currencies, but some
 users prefer other, sometimes local, options.  The Board works with
 other companies who also pay us a royalty and we don't have issues
 with multiple stores, as long as they sign our trademark agreements
 and we have a workable business relationship, which we do with
 Freewear.

Sure - my only point is that it doesn't really make sense to promote
more than one merchandising store on our front page.

Cheers,
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Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).

2011-02-15 Thread Frederic Muller

On 02/15/2011 11:06 PM, Dave Neary wrote:

we don't have issues

 with multiple stores, as long as they sign our trademark agreements
 and we have a workable business relationship, which we do with
 Freewear.



I had a look at freewear and didn't feel 'seduced' by their store. They 
definitely bring the proximity to people from Spain if I got that 
straight but the store concept kinds of dilutes the GNOME brand, and 
definitely doesn't differentiate or show under a great light the brand 
compared to other FOSS projects.


In fact reading the email from Ismael I was even a bit disheartened and 
wondered what was the value Freewear was bringing at first (though I got 
it later as mentioned above).


Is brand dilution and positioning something we should take into 
consideration?


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Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).

2011-02-15 Thread Brian Cameron


Dave:


Zazzle does a good job of selling in multiple currencies, but some
users prefer other, sometimes local, options.  The Board works with
other companies who also pay us a royalty and we don't have issues
with multiple stores, as long as they sign our trademark agreements
and we have a workable business relationship, which we do with
Freewear.


Sure - my only point is that it doesn't really make sense to promote
more than one merchandising store on our front page.


I disagree.  I think that it would be good to promote all organizations
that have agreements with the GNOME Foundation to sell GNOME branded
merchandise.  I would prefer to provide people with more choice.

I do think we want to avoid creating a confusing clutter of options,
but I do not think that is a real concern at this point considering
the small number of merchants who have arrangements to sell GNOME
branded merchandise.  This could become more of a concern if the
number of merchants grows significantly, but it does not seem a
serious issue at the moment to me.

I am not sure if it makes sense to promote merchants on the GNOME
front page, but I think we should promote all merchants somewhere
on the GNOME website.  Perhaps a website like http://store.gnome.org/
could contain a link to each merchant.  Then we could link to this
website from sensible places, like the FoG website and perhaps the
GNOME front-door.

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Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).

2011-02-15 Thread Stormy Peters
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.comwrote:



 I do think we want to avoid creating a confusing clutter of options,
 but I do not think that is a real concern at this point considering
 the small number of merchants who have arrangements to sell GNOME
 branded merchandise.  This could become more of a concern if the
 number of merchants grows significantly, but it does not seem a
 serious issue at the moment to me.

 I am not sure if it makes sense to promote merchants on the GNOME
 front page, but I think we should promote all merchants somewhere
 on the GNOME website.  Perhaps a website like http://store.gnome.org/
 could contain a link to each merchant.  Then we could link to this
 website from sensible places, like the FoG website and perhaps the
 GNOME front-door.


Maybe we could do this in a way that doesn't give any one user too many
options by breaking it down by region. (Too many options often means people
buy none.)

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freenode gnome channel

2011-02-15 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On freenode, we have a ##gnome channel that is actually staffed by self
interested in volunteers for quite a number of years.  There is no official
#gnome channel due to Freenode's policy of needing an official group
sponsoring it like the GNOME Foundation.  I would like to propose that we
actually create a #gnome channel under GNOME Foundation and either staff it
or get people to use the #gnome channel on irc.gnome.org.  ##gnome sees a
lot more visitors from my casual observance than #gnome does and this is
probably because there is an actual number of people who are in there
answering questions.

I have talked to the ##gnome folks and they are totally willing to shut down
their channel if a #gnome is created.  I would assume that they will
continue to do the excellent support that they've been giving to a large
number of users that pop in from #ubuntu and other channels to ask
questions.  In the mean time, they have given me +o on their channel so that
I can set topics and what not.  It'll probably be good to have Allan, Jason
and some others also operator access just so that we can manage the /topic
for user days and the like.

In general, it's been good to see people manning the #gnome channels.  I
hope we continue.

sri
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Proposal put in for Open Source Bridge.

2011-02-15 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
I have put in a proposal to talk about GNOME 3 at the upcoming Open Source
Bridge conference in Portland.  I have titled the talk as:

GNOME 3 - A New Desktop Experience
GNOME 3 was released in April 2011. A presentation on the thought process in
innovating a different user experience on the desktop.

I wanted to concentrate on the design principles behind GNOME 3 and give the
opportunity for the FOSS community to offer feedback.  I'm thinking of maybe
a lightning talk on extending GNOME Shell.

sri
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