Re: New GNOME.Asia Summit website launched
Dear Richard, Thanks for the feedback, I launched the site on Sunday night at 3am and my phone line has been cut Monday morning at around 8am (they are working on the line...). While I've been hoping and fighting to get it back I finally had to resolve myself to go out and find a place with free Internet. I actually wanted to make changes (there was/are still a few other mistakes). And this is when my laptop fan died preventing my pc to start... we have a French expression for that which would translate into something like 'when it rains, it pours'. So 3 days later I still have no convenient Internet connection, but a brand new fan landed in my laptop chassis. I'm catching up... While I think you have a strong point about the missing message about GNOME and free software I believe a lot of people outside of the US (at least) use the expression 'Open Source' as a synonym of Free Software. I prefer to unite the potentially 2 communities (assuming they are split). And I dislike FLOSS as a term: I read LOSS in it (the fully worded version is way too long for my taste as well). Since I'm writing some of the text on the site, I get to pick ;-) Now I'll review your comments and make improvements. I would be happy to hear how you would advertise in 4/5 words the session where we're trying to encourage local IT services companies to embrace free software and show them that they can run a business around it? So thanks a lot. I'll post on the list when changes are made. Fred On 03/23/2011 01:22 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: I looked at the home page. The sponsors get more screen area than GNOME. This seems like an event to promote them more than an event to promote GNOME. The top line uses the word monetize -- a word that carries the worst fashion of today's usual mercenary attitude -- but says nothing about freedom. It does say free software, but in that context people are likely to suppose that free means gratis, and there is nothing on the home page to tell them otherwise. There needs to be something on the home page that clearly refers to freedom and shows that free means freedom. The way that I can think of is to have a graphic with various words for free: ziyou, jiyuu-na, tu do, swatantra, mukt, etc., as well as free itself. (This method is somewhat trite, so it would be nice to think of something more creative.) I looked at Who Should Attend page. It mentions 5 goals, and all those goals are good, but the most important goal -- freedom on your computer -- is missing. The page says FLOSS a few times, and free and open source once. To fully promote free software, it should always say free/libre or free/swatantra. Mentioning open source is a distraction here, so that term shouldn't be present. I looked at the speakers page. I was glad to see that you're giving a talk about software freedom. However, for each person who attends your talk, a thousand will view the home page. We need to get the message of freedom into the home page so that thousands will see it. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Next GNOME User Day (31 March) needs 2 more co-hosts
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 11:34 +, Luis Medinas wrote: 2011/3/22 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com: Sumana Harihareswara wrote: I'm planning another GNOME User Day -- http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/UserDays -- for Thursday, 31 March 2011. We'll answer user questions, especially about GNOME 3, via IRC. I need about six people to each help host a session for an hour -- we'll have about three sessions, each hosted by two people. I have a few people signed up, so I just need two or three more. Would you like to help host a session? If so, please mark all the times you're available on this Doodle poll. I'll only ask you to do one of them. http://www.doodle.com/a72fpheh7cb4gp6a This is shaping up nicely. We could do with one more person to cover the 15:00-16:00 (UTC) slot though. Any volunteers?! Great! This is how the programme looks at the moment: Session 1 (07:00-08:00): Participate in the GNOME 3.0 hackfest * Allan, Fred P, Andre Session 2 (15:00-16:00): the 3.0 platform * Diego and Luis Session 3 (20:00-21:00): GNOME Shell Q A * Florian and Marina Note that the time of the last session is earlier than that of the previous user day. This is a reflection of peoples' availability, but it might mean that there are some parts of the world where it is more difficult to participate. Allan -- Blog: https://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Next GNOME User Day (31 March) needs 2 more co-hosts
Hi Allan, Allan Day wrote: Great! This is how the programme looks at the moment: Session 1 (07:00-08:00): Participate in the GNOME 3.0 hackfest * Allan, Fred P, Andre Session 2 (15:00-16:00): the 3.0 platform * Diego and Luis Session 3 (20:00-21:00): GNOME Shell Q A * Florian and Marina Just wondering, did you get a chance to add these to the GNOME community calendar? https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/mdnrfqhbsjn37b6sgad089qmak%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics I took the liberty of adding you to the (long!) list of people who can add events other editors while I was at it :) Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New GNOME.Asia Summit website launched
While I think you have a strong point about the missing message about GNOME and free software I believe a lot of people outside of the US (at least) use the expression 'Open Source' as a synonym of Free Software. People who think they are synonymous have misunderstood the substance of either free software or open source. In my experience, most often they have misunderstood the substance of free software. They have heard the idea labeled open source and they think that free software is the same idea. Teaching them the truth about this is a high priority for us. We want them to know what free software really stands for. First we have to show them it is not the same as opensource. I prefer to unite the potentially 2 communities (assuming they are split). They aren't two communities -- they are two philosophical camps within one community. Sometimes they can work together, but they can't unite unless people change their views. We might wish to convince all open source supporters to change their views, but realistically speaking it is not likely they will. Please set up your site to help educate viewers about free software and what it stands for. I would be happy to hear how you would advertise in 4/5 words the session where we're trying to encourage local IT services companies to embrace free software and show them that they can run a business around it? How about... Run Your Business on Freedom Your Business deserves Freedom too -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org Skype: Don't use Skype, it's proprietary software! -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
