Re: New GNOME.Asia Summit website launched
I picked "Boost your business with Free Software" Thanks. That makes "free software" fairly prominent in the event. Can we fit "freedom" in there somehow? Or "swatantra", in honor of India? Either one would make it clearer that "free" doesn't mean "gratis". which unfortunately removes GNOME from the slogan Not to worry. The most prominent piece of the event's PR is its name, and that's where you say it is about GNOME. This slogan's purpose is to say what GNOME stands for -- such as Free Software. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org Skype: Don't use Skype, it's proprietary software! -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Q4 Update
I didn't see it on the wiki page[1] per the original call for updates. Paul [1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/QuarterlyReports/2010/Q4 On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Brian Cameron wrote: > > Paul: > > > On 03/21/11 03:14 PM, Paul Cutler wrote: >> >> Better late than never, I've finished the Q4 update. If anyone has >> time to proof it for any big spelling or grammar mistakes, I'd >> appreciate the help. >> >> http://foundation.gnome.org/reports/gnome-report-2010-Q4.html > > I wrote a Q4 board report, but do not see it on the above website. See > here for what I wrote: > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2011-January/msg00124.html > > Any reason this was not included, or did it just get overlooked? > > Brian > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New GNOME.Asia Summit website launched
On Mar 26, 2011, at 4:31 AM, Frederic Muller wrote: > I picked "Boost your business with Free Software" which unfortunately removes > GNOME from the slogan but has the advantage to keep a fairly accurate summary > of what the session is about and makes you happy too. Yeah, it's certainly unfortunate that the mention of GNOME needed to be removed from promotional materials for the GNOME Asia Summit in order to "provide minimal support for the free software movement", but it makes Richard happy. And that's what's _important. You folks thrill me. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New GNOME.Asia Summit website launched
Made the changes within the direction of your comments. I do however have some comments further feedback (below): On 03/24/2011 09:39 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: While I think you have a strong point about the missing message about GNOME and free software I believe a lot of people outside of the US (at least) use the expression 'Open Source' as a synonym of Free Software. People who think they are synonymous have misunderstood the substance of either free software or open source. In my experience, most often they have misunderstood the substance of free software. They have heard the idea labeled "open source" and they think that "free software" is the same idea. Teaching them the truth about this is a high priority for us. We want them to know what "free software" really stands for. First we have to show them it is not the same as "opensource". For a lot of people opensource represents what you call Free Software. Language evolves, mentality change. Is what really matters the terminology or the intention in which people do things and care? Not using the words behind which people associate their passions is missing out on including them and not something I want to be doing. Sure we can educate them about proper English or proper history/semantic but we shouldn't either make them feel guilty or exclude them. I want them to look at the site and feel it's for them too, because it is. And I could add that the term freedom is a poorly chosen word in some context/area of the world (which has somewhat forced communities to chose OSS instead). But we're getting off topic now. :-) I prefer to unite the potentially "2 communities" (assuming they are split). They aren't "two communities" -- they are two philosophical camps within one community. Sometimes they can work together, but they can't unite unless people change their views. We might wish to convince all open source supporters to change their views, but realistically speaking it is not likely they will. Considering the hatred from some on either side it has become 2 communities. Some definitely don't want to participate in anything associated with Free Software, while others refuse to attend anything associated with Open Source. So they both have their little groups of people highlighting the differences... Please set up your site to help educate viewers about free software and what it stands for. In fact in all the FOSS that you said should be removed they were used in the context of "biggest FOSS event in xxx country" which in that context is important to keep. It was not at all referring to any ideology or development methodology but to a group of conferences covering either or both thus making it important to keep it that way (I replaced with the full wordings). I just removed Open Source in the goal section as promoting Free Software also advocates for the open source development model though encompasses the bigger picture. I would be happy to hear how you would advertise in 4/5 words the session where we're trying to encourage local IT services companies to embrace free software and show them that they can run a business around it? How about... Run Your Business on Freedom Your Business deserves Freedom too I picked "Boost your business with Free Software" which unfortunately removes GNOME from the slogan but has the advantage to keep a fairly accurate summary of what the session is about and makes you happy too. Anyway thank you for your feedback as it definitely helped us to rewrite some sections in a much better way. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
