Re: "Deployments" page sends the wrong message

[Christy Eller]

Hi-

I have been gathering some more info about recent deployments. Thanks to
Marina, I have added several more current deployments to our Deployments
wiki page, https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/GnomeDeployments,
including a one using GNOME 3.0.2.

My suggestion is that we split off the older deployments to another page,
called GNOME Deployments 2000-2008. I would prefer to have that info
available, but I agree with Joanie that seeing a list of really old
deployments could send a negative message. I would rename the current page
to Current Gnome Deployments, and would refer to the older deployments page
there. I chose those dates, because I want to make sure that the current
page has enough data not to look too sparse.

I hope to be able to report on more, perhaps get updates on the ones that
we have, and repair or retire the broken links. I also wonder if we should
try to highlight this information in a more public place. If you have
anything to add, it would be greatly appreciated!

Christy

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Joanmarie Diggs  wrote:

> Hey all.
>
> I just took a look at our Deployments page [1] in some detail. Here's
> what I found regarding the linked reports [2] of deployments:
>
> Summary:
>  * 32 total
>  * 12 broken (37.5%)
>  * 18 >= 5 years old (56.25%)
>  * Of the remaining 2 (6.25%) from the past two years:
>  * 1 uses GNOME 2.28
>  * 1 used GNOME 2.30
>  * 0% use GNOME 3.2
>  * 0% use GNOME 3.0
>  * 0% use GNOME 2.32
>
> Details:
>  * Austria: 2005
>  * Belgium: 2006, 2003, (broken)
>  * Germany: 2005
>  * Ireland: (broken), 2004
>  * Italy: 2005
>  * Macedonia: 2005
>  * Spain: 2003, 2005, 2010 (but GNOME 2.28)
>  * United Kingdom: (broken), (broken), (broken)
>  * South America: 2003, (broken), 2004, 2005, (broken), (broken)
>  * Australia: (broken; references GNOME 2.8)
>  * China: 2005, (broken), 2003, (broken)
>  * India: 2011 (but GNOME 2.30)
>  * USA: 2002, (and a reference to 2005)
>  * Canada: 2005
>  * Other Resources: 2004, (broken)
>
> My Opinions:
>  * At the best, what this page communicates to the outside world
>(possibly including institutions considering whether or not to
>deploy GNOME) is that we have some serious cruft removal to do
>with respect to our marketing content.
>  * At the worst, it suggests that modern/current deployments do not
>see GNOME 3.x as a viable option.
>  * Are either of these messages something we wish to convey? I
>would argue no.
>  * Were it me, I would investigate the present status of all of the
>existing deployments, remove those which are no longer valid,
>solicit new reports from those which are valid, investigate
>additional/"missing" deployments, and highlight those which are
>based on GNOME 3. And if this cannot be done, I'd remove the
>page entirely from our site because I do not think it helps our
>cause.
>  * (It won't be me because I am busy contributing to the effort to
>ensure that we are accessible to users who are blind. ;) )
>
> For what it's worth
>
> Take care.
> --joanie
>
> [1] https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/GnomeDeployments
> [2] As opposed to generic/institute sites
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Fwd: feedback on stands

[Olav Vitters]

I registered the stand, so received this email. I cleared out the To:
list. Any feedback we want to give to FOSDEM?

IMO, I think the stands are too far away from the real action (talks).
But maybe that was due to the cold. Didn't like going outside much :P
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Dear stand responsible,

Thank you for manning a stand at FOSDEM 2012, we hope you enjoyed it!


This year, we changed quite a few things for the stands: we cleared out 
the H building for safety reasons, halved the number of stands in AW and 
tried out a new setup in the new K building. The total number of stands 
was 10% less than the year before.


I have tried to talk to each of you, and I think I already have a pretty 
good idea of what was better or worse. Nevertheless, I would like to ask 
you to take some time and write us how you experienced FOSDEM and the 
current setup. That way, we can also take it into account when planning 
the stands next year.


If possible, we would especially like to hear your opinion about:
- how was it compared to last year (if applicable)?
- what was your general impression?
- what could we improve next year?


Kind regards,
Tias
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Re: GNOME FOSDEM Stand

[Olav Vitters]

On Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 12:01:55PM +0100, Tobias Mueller wrote:
> Heya :)
> 
> On 07.02.2012 11:48, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > The information leaflets are in black and white [...]
> > ^^ send me a (link to a) PDF and I'll print
> Yeah, well. I guess we'd need a leaflet first ;-) I prepared something
> here: 
> 
> Feel free to add or thoughts, or better yet: Work on it ;-)

We had some folded stuff, no? Was that outdated info?


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Re: GNOME FOSDEM Stand

[Allan Day]

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Tobias Mueller  wrote:
> Heya :)
>
> On 07.02.2012 11:48, Olav Vitters wrote:
>> The information leaflets are in black and white [...]
>> ^^ send me a (link to a) PDF and I'll print
> Yeah, well. I guess we'd need a leaflet first ;-) I prepared something
> here: 
>
> Feel free to add or thoughts, or better yet: Work on it ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>  Tobi

We should figure out what the leaflets are for and who the audience
will be. For FOSDEM we don't really need 'What is GNOME' leaflets, for
example (or am I wrong). However, leaflets for Friends of GNOME or
even GNOME Love might be more appropriate.

Since we're discussing new tablecloths, stickers, banners and
leaflets, we should also make sure that they have a consistent look.

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Re: GNOME FOSDEM Stand

[Tobias Mueller]

Heya :)

On 07.02.2012 11:48, Olav Vitters wrote:
> The information leaflets are in black and white [...]
> ^^ send me a (link to a) PDF and I'll print
Yeah, well. I guess we'd need a leaflet first ;-) I prepared something
here: 

Feel free to add or thoughts, or better yet: Work on it ;-)

Cheers,
  Tobi



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Re: GNOME FOSDEM Stand

[Olav Vitters]

On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 03:05:40PM +, Allan Day wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who staffed the GNOME stand at FOSDEM! It was great
> to have so many enthusiastic volunteers. If you were there - how did
> you think the stand worked, and what could we improve for next time?

The information leaflets are in black and white; doesn't look nice. I
can print a few hundred of those in colour and send them to whomever has
the event box.
^^ send me a (link to a) PDF and I'll print

We should always sell nice t-shirts IMO. The green ones: I don't really
like.

Stickers are awesome. We should always ensure to say they they are free.

The webcam was broken under the Fedora installation

Didn't get many questions, though was way less at stand than previous
years.

Ideally we should stand at the stand, not sit down.

At least one demo machine should continuously show videos. Maybe we
should have a few videos on ftp.gnome.org, then ensure that they're
always on the machine itself. This avoids any network issues (which you
usually have aside from FOSDEM :P).

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Re: GNOME FOSDEM Stand

[Tobias Mueller]

Heya :)

On 07.02.2012 10:13, Vincent Untz wrote:
> I'm thinking it's too big for the newest event box,
> but that's just a guess.
Well, I sorted that out back in the day:


So I don't think a table cloth will fit in the current box and we need
other methods of transport for (at least) the cloth.

Cheers,
  Tobi



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Re: GNOME FOSDEM Stand

[Tobias Mueller]

Hey folks :)

On 06.02.2012 16:05, Allan Day wrote:
> Do we know if there is room in the box for those things?
We do. And it doesn't. At all. There has barely been enough space to fit
the nice nametags we had. That's for the v2 box (which should be called
v3 because of GNOME3 anyway ;-) ) but the v1 box didn't have significant
space left as I've last seen it in May.

Your suggestions are very good though. We should try to figure out how
to get things like more merchandise or roll up displays around the world.
Some suggestions that need evaluation:

Simply have another box with the additional stuff.
But we'd need to find out:
How much does such a box cost?
Much much does shipping cost?
And well, then we need an educated guess whether these costs
are worth the expected promotional effect.

Somehow attach more things to the existing box, i.e. with duct tape
(which is currently not present in the box ;-) ).
Does it make sense at all to have such a construction shipped?
Is there a container that is attachable to the box?

Distribute more, i.e. make more people have more stuff.
Well, I guess it costs a lot of money to distribute everything
multiple times so that shipping will never be necessary. But
then again, that's just a feeling and I haven't checked it.

> Who has the box at the moment?
Me. I wanted to bring it to CeBIT. But so far we lack people to stand at
the booth. So it's probably not going to happen :-/

Cheers,
  Tobi



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Re: GNOME FOSDEM Stand

[Allan Day]

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Vincent Untz  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le lundi 06 février 2012, à 08:48 -0700, Stormy Peters a écrit :
>> I 100% support having a table cloth and a roll up self-standing banner in
>> both of the event boxes.
>
> We should make sure the roll up self-standing banner can fit in the
> event boxes, though. I'm thinking it's too big for the newest event box,
> but that's just a guess.

That's what I was thinking too. :) Same goes for any additional
merchanise we want to include. I'm sure there's room for stickers, but
what about mugs or even USB sticks?

Could whoever has the box check to see how much space there is?

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Re: GNOME FOSDEM Stand

[Vincent Untz]

Hi,

Le lundi 06 février 2012, à 08:48 -0700, Stormy Peters a écrit :
> I 100% support having a table cloth and a roll up self-standing banner in
> both of the event boxes.

We should make sure the roll up self-standing banner can fit in the
event boxes, though. I'm thinking it's too big for the newest event box,
but that's just a guess.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: GNOME FOSDEM Stand

[Juanjo Marín]

- Mensaje original -
> De: Allan Day 
> Para: GNOME Marketing List 
> CC: 
> Enviado: Lunes 6 de febrero de 2012 16:05
> Asunto: GNOME FOSDEM Stand
[...]
> The other thing I thought was that the stand would be better if we had
> more in the way of merchandise (pens, mugs, keyrings, usb sticks, a
> greater range of stickers, etc etc). We also need new banners (some of
> which are looking like they have seen better days) and a big GNOME
> tablecloth (I was also envious of the roll-up vertical banners that
> the other stands had).

Hi Allan et al,

We discussed about a tablecoth in the past [1] and even we have
a design:

http://yuliansu.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/gnome-table-cloth.png

So I think we can go ahead with a tablecloth and a roll-up vertical banner
if people still agree. 

Cheers,

    -- Juanjo Marin

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