Re: New design Live Gnome
Hello Christy, Unfortunately, I did not receive the mockup. I saw it now, and it is really fine for me if I am constructing this one; still , it is a choice we all need to agree on. On the other side, I would really like to include a little bit more elements if possible. The website should be practical as I understood, so maybe one more block of elements will be appropriate. We may discuss on the #marketing channel, whenever you have time. Thanks, Elena On 06/10/2012 03:37 AM, Christy Eller wrote: Elena- Did you get the quick mockup that Andreas did yesterday? He and I discussed the layout and navigation yesterday on IRC. We want to keep it very simple. http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/wikilayout.png or an svg here, which would be editable in inkscape: http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/wikilayout.svg There were a few changes we talked about making to this mockup. One was to add Sitemap to the top nav. Also, for styling, add the html bg file that I sent you recently (not the watercolor bg), add the footer called community.png that I'm attaching here, and make a new logo for live.gnome.org http://live.gnome.org/. I have some ideas for the logo if you need help. Again, the main thing we are trying to get out of this is simplicity, ease of use, and the main style elements of wgo- meaning header, footer background. If you try to make too many changes from the current theme in moin moin, I think it is going to get very complex once you start the implementation. It primarily needs to be clean and useful. Wikis are generally styled very simply, because they are all about storing content, rather than marketing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Main_Page If you have any questions, or when you have an example, please email Andreas or me- or look for us on IRC. It seems like it's been very difficult for us to meet up at the same time, so let's set up an IRC meeting for Monday if possible. I really appreciate your efforts! Thank you for your work- Christy On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com mailto:brett.leg...@gmail.com wrote: Elena, Glad to lend a hand - certainly, please do take them as suggestions, since I am not a designer in any way shape or form! However, I do my best as a UI enthusiast and a cheerleader for people who *can* design - thanks again, -Brett On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Elena Petrevska elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com mailto:elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com wrote: Brett, at first, thanks for the encouragement and for the contribution. I will comment as I go through the mail. On 06/09/2012 07:53 PM, Brett Legree wrote: Good day Elena, Just a few more ideas to add to the mix, and sort of build on what Sri suggested. I attached a GIMP-edited version of your original image (should I instead be posting a link to an online site for this? Not sure of the protocol for the mailing list, if I should please let me know). I actually like the changes a lot. It is not a problem in both ways, you are fine with this method. As I am new, I am trying to get a feel for the purpose of the page, so I did a bit of cut paste to try and group things together or make things flow a bit. I put Search up at the top right so it is above the fold by default, for new and more experienced users, and I suggested moving the User Login part a bit lower in the hierarchy (since someone with a login would be familiar with the page). You really did some very useful changes. thanks ! I thought it was okay to have Join GNOME at the top (not sure where the link goes - to another page with all of them listed, or to the bottom of the page where they are spread out?) as well as at the bottom, as it would seem logical we want people to join the various projects. Or, we could try to have only one link to each topic, to simplify things for both users and coders (just something I picked up in my studies of UI/UX, I believe there are 6 or 7 ways to print a document in Microsoft Word, for instance, via shortcut keys, icons etc., some of them do the same thing, and some of them do not work exactly the same way). We will talk about this on the mailing list and I will (in the mean time) take care of implementing them in a design. You could experiment with that spread out list of links to the different Teams, perhaps with justified/non-justified arrangement of the text, alphabetical ordering maybe, or perhaps some kind of logical arrangement based on what is most important to the project as a whole (though I think they are all important - hence the suggestion for alphabetical ordering). I will certainly try it. Anyway,
Re: SELF
Just wanted to follow-up by saying that the Fedora booth (where I hung out a bit) had quite a few different GNOME stickers to give out, and I talked about GNOME with as many folks as I could. There was also an awesome moment in the evening keynote Saturday when Steven J Vaughn-Nichols was shocked when so many GNOME users raised their hands when he asked how many users of each DE was there (this was after he touted KDE as the #1 desktop currently based on some survey he found). We had the strongest showing among the hand-raisers ;-) On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Bryen, On 06/02/2012 11:15 PM, Bryen M Yunashko wrote: I'll be at SELF, but working the openSUSE booth. And FYI, KDE will also have a booth there. I assumed, wrongly, that GNOME was going to have a booth there. :-/ This is, I think, part of the problem. Every conference I've been to has had a decent number of GNOME people there manning stands - the OpenSUSE stand, the Ubuntu stand, the Fedora stand, the Mozilla stand, the Collabora stand... When Sri says that we don't have many people in the Sounth West, I may be wrong, but I'm betting he's thinking of corporate offices. Somehow, GNOME users developers self-identify more strongly with other groups than with GNOME now. Or at least, it seems that way to me. Is that a legacy of having more paid developers, and the unpaid contributors not feeling the ownership/authority to represent the brand? I don't know if my analysis is correct, and if it is, I don't know how to help fix it. All I can say is, there are a *lot* of GNOME people in the South East. Especially in North Carolina (there is a Red Hat office in Raleigh). But I don't know many of them. I know Ken Van Dine ived in that part of the world though - perhaps he knows more people specifically? Cheers, Dave. PS. In Europe, it is the local chapters who request stand space for GNOME - and the GNOME Foundation is often unaware of either the conference or the stand. Is it a requirement to be effective that these requests come through us centrally? I know I've regretted that we don't have regional GNOME groups in the US in the past. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- -jayson -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: SELF
Awesome. Regarding desktop share, you know the saying: There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. -Brett On Jun 10, 2012 5:02 PM, Jayson Rowe jayson.r...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to follow-up by saying that the Fedora booth (where I hung out a bit) had quite a few different GNOME stickers to give out, and I talked about GNOME with as many folks as I could. There was also an awesome moment in the evening keynote Saturday when Steven J Vaughn-Nichols was shocked when so many GNOME users raised their hands when he asked how many users of each DE was there (this was after he touted KDE as the #1 desktop currently based on some survey he found). We had the strongest showing among the hand-raisers ;-) On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Bryen, On 06/02/2012 11:15 PM, Bryen M Yunashko wrote: I'll be at SELF, but working the openSUSE booth. And FYI, KDE will also have a booth there. I assumed, wrongly, that GNOME was going to have a booth there. :-/ This is, I think, part of the problem. Every conference I've been to has had a decent number of GNOME people there manning stands - the OpenSUSE stand, the Ubuntu stand, the Fedora stand, the Mozilla stand, the Collabora stand... When Sri says that we don't have many people in the Sounth West, I may be wrong, but I'm betting he's thinking of corporate offices. Somehow, GNOME users developers self-identify more strongly with other groups than with GNOME now. Or at least, it seems that way to me. Is that a legacy of having more paid developers, and the unpaid contributors not feeling the ownership/authority to represent the brand? I don't know if my analysis is correct, and if it is, I don't know how to help fix it. All I can say is, there are a *lot* of GNOME people in the South East. Especially in North Carolina (there is a Red Hat office in Raleigh). But I don't know many of them. I know Ken Van Dine ived in that part of the world though - perhaps he knows more people specifically? Cheers, Dave. PS. In Europe, it is the local chapters who request stand space for GNOME - and the GNOME Foundation is often unaware of either the conference or the stand. Is it a requirement to be effective that these requests come through us centrally? I know I've regretted that we don't have regional GNOME groups in the US in the past. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- -jayson -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Problem managing the FoG donors
Hi, I've realized that my name is not the list of donors in FoG (I'm a monthly donor since 2 or 3 years and I think make regular small donations since 2006). Also, I've never got the free LWN account. It doesn't matter too much my case, but I think that maybe some other donors can have the same situation and they can feel frustated about that. I guess we have problem in the managing system of the FoG donors and we need to fix that. Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Problem managing the FoG donors
On 2012-06-10 18:28, Juanjo Marín wrote: Hi, I've realized that my name is not the list of donors in FoG (I'm a monthly donor since 2 or 3 years and I think make regular small donations since 2006). Also, I've never got the free LWN account. It doesn't matter too much my case, but I think that maybe some other donors can have the same situation and they can feel frustated about that. I guess we have problem in the managing system of the FoG donors and we need to fix that. We definitely do - Rosanna and Emmanuele track a lot of this manually which is the problem, but I've been talking to folks at the EFF to see how we can use CiviCRM better to help us with this, like they do. Does anyone here have experience with this and want to help? Sorry you've been off the list, Juanjo, and thanks for donating your money as well as your time! karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
