Re: installing owncloud..
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Emily Gonyer wrote: > Sounds good to me! > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Brett Legree wrote: >> Seems pretty logical to me. >> >> -Brett >> >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna >> wrote: >>> >>> Guys, >>> >>> What do you think about using owncloud for collaboration? It allows us to >>> share a calendar I believe and files and what not. It is completely open >>> source. Also, I remember one of the owncloud guys coming into #marketing >>> asking about nautilus integration. So they definitely seem interested in us >>> as well. own cloud is really a good option, i am using it on my localhost and it works great >>> >>> I could volunteer to install it.. av: what do you think? >>> >>> sri >>> >>> -- >>> marketing-list mailing list >>> marketing-list@gnome.org >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list >>> >> >> >> -- >> marketing-list mailing list >> marketing-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list >> > > > > -- > Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, > power and magic in it. - Goethe > > Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't > matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss > > Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that > counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Akshay vyas (http://www.gofedora.in) -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Calendar
Hi you can make your google calendar public or available for selected people here are some links on how to obtain calendar link [calendar address] http://support.google.com/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=37104 [Find your calendar address] http://support.google.com/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=37103&topic=1672529&ctx=topic [all calendar how to's] http://support.google.com/calendar/?hl=en On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Stormy Peters wrote: > We have a GNOME community calendar in Google. Maybe we could use that? > > I don't know how the find the public url for a Google calendar and I'm in > meetings for the rest of the day (but can try later ...), but I invited you > to it ... > > Stormy > > > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Allan Day wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> A little while ago we spoke about setting up a calendar for GNOME >> marketing. I think this is really needed. (The key requirement for the >> calendar is that different people can subscribe to it and receive >> updates as events are added and modified.) >> >> We've been testing a Wordpress plugin on the gnome.org test site but >> I'm not getting the behaviour we need (indeed, I can't subscribe to it >> from my Google Calendar at all). >> >> Does anyone have any bright ideas for how to set up a shared calendar? >> >> Allan >> -- >> IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org >> Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ >> -- >> marketing-list mailing list >> marketing-list@gnome.org >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > > > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- Akshay vyas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: [Fwd: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the GNOME logo]
Hi Dave Neary about mint,i suggested that too but i think there is still sm confusion about mint. Linux Mint is full GNOME 3.0 i don't really think that MInt is GNOME derivative because MGSE is just an extension to GNOME plus some extra extensions provided by Linux Mint that can be removed from Gnome tweak tool in order to get full GNOME 3.0 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Bryen M Yunashko wrote: > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 19:03 +0100, Juanjo Marín wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> > De: Emily Gonyer >> >Para: a11yro...@bryen.com >> >CC: Juanjo Marín ; "marketing-list@gnome.org" >> > >> >Enviado: Martes 17 de abril de 2012 19:53 >> >Asunto: Re: [Fwd: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the >> >GNOME logo] >> > >> > >> >> >> >>Even if a GNOME derivative wanted to say "powered by GNOME" why would >> >>that be a bad thing? We get the benefit of increased mindshre where our >> >>GNOME logo appears in more places. If those derivatives choose to pay >> >>homage to GNOME by using such a phrase, more power to them. :-) >> >> >> >>Bryen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>marketing-list mailing list >> >>marketing-list@gnome.org >> >>http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list >> >> >> >I'm with Bryen - I really don't see how having our name on compuers would >> >in any way be a bad thing. I keep looking for someplace with reasonable >> >linux stickers - I really want a tux & something that says GNOME & not >> >just the logo. Actually now that I've checked their site I'll probably end >> >up buying some of theris:) >> > >> > >> >> >> Well, so far, all we agree to go with the stickers :-) >> >> The "cons" of the GNOME and derivatives debate: There are many people out >> there confused out there about what GNOME, GNOME.3, GNOME shell, Unity, >> Unity 3D, Unity 2D, GNOME classics, fallback mode, CInnamon, Mate, GNOME >> panel, etc are. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- Juanjo Marin >> > > I'm confused about what many of the things are on OSX, Windows, KDE, > etc. because I don't use them. Its quite natural for people to not > understand what all these names mean when they're not actually using > them. Desktops have many components. That's the way it is and always > will be. > > But "mindshare" is a different thing from "marketshare." Mindshare > speaks to branding familiarity. And if you see all those things you > listed above with "powered by GNOME" that only helps us, not hurt us as > it increases our mindshare. People see GNOME name no matter where. > > You can kind of make a similiar analogy to how Ubuntu does this. I'm > sure a noumber of us have shown our non-Ubuntu desktop to some person to > introduce them to another "Linux" and they go "Oh yea, that's Ubuntu" > and we have a bit of a challenge to explain to them... no this desktop > isn't Ubuntu, its $Linux. But mindshare is there, people equate in > their mind that when they see $Linux, they see Ubuntu. (Not bashing > Ubuntu here.) > > Wouldn't we want people to see derivatives of GNOME and still associate > the name "GNOME" in their minds no matter what? > > Bryen > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Akshay vyas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: [Fwd: Question about the trademark policy and usage of the GNOME logo]
I think its good to have a sticker saying powered by GNOME and really that's shockin that folks don't like that,and about the approval i think it is approved by design team On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Bryen M Yunashko wrote: > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 18:12 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 04/17/2012 05:43 AM, Karen Sandler wrote: >> > This says "Powered by GNOME" and I know that some folks wanted us to shy >> > away from using terms like that or "GNOME Technologies", though I think >> > it's also necessary to provide ways for folks to say that there are GNOME >> > components involved in their products to help people understand how useful >> > GNOME is. >> >> Personally I have no issues with "Powered by GNOME" - the stickers are >> destined to be stuck to a laptop after all, not a GNOME derivative. >> >> Cheers, >> Dave. > > Just out of curiosity, why do some people have issues with "powered by > GNOME" phrase? > > Bryen > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Akshay vyas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org
Its getting more and more confusing as more and more names are coming up,i think its better to keep that page as it is or we can add some distributions which are using gnome (tweaked gnome) not pure gnome like linux mint in small letters with the other distribution names On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: > On Tue, April 3, 2012 5:54 am, Allan Day wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: >>> On Mon, April 2, 2012 9:30 am, Emily Gonyer wrote: >>>> So, what your saying is that its really hard to get a good GNOME 3 >>>> install >>>> on Mageia and therefor it shouldn't be on the list of distros, correct? >>>> I >>>> get that. Theres a reason we don't list *every* distro on the page >>>> afterall! Maybe we should come up with a concrete set of 'rules' to be >>>> listed and then work our way through a list of distros and rule them in >>>> or >>>> out as we go. >>> >>> Another thought - >>> >>> Is there any reason we can't have a link on this page saying, "see other >>> distributions using GNOME", where we have a separate page and add anyone >>> who asks or makes sense to add? >> >> I would hope to avoid the need for another page... > > I know it's not ideal, but it does at least sort of solve the problems > we're discussing here, without cluttering up our main page for new > users... >> >>> Also, we should think about adding Pandora as another footnote, saying >>> that GNOME 3 is available on a fully free distribution there, because >>> that >>> represents a slightly different ideological issue (while not meeting our >>> criteria for inclusion in general, it fills a niche that a real subset >>> of >>> our users may be interested in knowing about). >> >> Do you have a link to any information about Pandora? I can't find any. > > ha, that's because I wrote the wrong name - I meant parabola :) > > https://wiki.parabolagnulinux.org/index.php > > sorry! > karen > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Akshay vyas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org
HI
np Emily Gonyer :)
@Andre Klapper
Linux mint is giving mgse with GNOME 3 and you can enable gnome 3 by
disabling the extensions ie MGSE is just and extension provided by
Linux Mint for reference
im providing this link here http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_lisa_whatsnew.php and
i request you to please go through this page as it is written there
that ("MGSE" (Mint Gnome Shell Extensions) is a desktop layer on top
of Gnome 3 that makes it possible for you to use Gnome 3 in a
traditional way. You can disable all components within MGSE to get a
pure Gnome 3 experience, or you can enable all of them to get a Gnome
3 desktop that is similar to what you’ve been using before. Of course
you can also pick and only enable the components you like to design
your own desktop.)
you can find this text on the given link
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Emily Gonyer wrote:
> I think the reasoning for including Ubuntu on the page is two fold:
>
> 1) Its a very popular distro, and lots of people want to know how to get
> GNOME 3 on it
> 2) Its quite easy to get a good GNOME 3 install on Ubuntu - simply add the
> ppa and install (or in the case of the getting gnome page, just click :)
>
> On a side note, I think there should be a link to the 'getting gnome' page
> on the home page (gnome.org) without having to click through to GNOME 3, and
> then scroll/read all the way down through to 'find out how to get gnome 3' -
> if I want GNOME 3, I'd rather not have to load and read through mutliple
> pages just to be told how to get it. Currently, its slightly buried and hard
> to find, especially if you don't really know what your looking for.
>
> Emily
> (ps, sorry about getting this twice Akshay - I forgot to hit reply all the
> first time :p)
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Akshay Vyas wrote:
>>
>> HI Allan Day
>>
>> I think you are right but still there is one thing confusing me that
>> is adding ubuntu
>> because ubuntu is not using GNOME3 completely they aren't giving GNOME3 in
>> their default distribution not even in ubuntu 12.04 ,as far as i know
>> there is a package
>> which an ubuntu user can install to get the GNOME look (an additional
>> package)
>> so i completely disagree on adding ubuntu because i have never seen
>> any GNOME thing after UBUNT10.10 like its written on fedora download
>> page and on opensuse also that their default distribution is GNOME and
>> i never see UBUNTU mentioned this after 10.10 so i request you to
>> please confirm about ubuntu
>>
>> Regards
>> Akshay
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
>> > On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 09:30:45AM -0400, Emily Gonyer wrote:
>> >> So, what your saying is that its really hard to get a good GNOME 3
>> >> install
>> >> on Mageia and therefor it shouldn't be on the list of distros, correct?
>> >> I
>> >> get that. Theres a reason we don't list *every* distro on the page
>> >> afterall! Maybe we should come up with a concrete set of 'rules' to be
>> >> listed and then work our way through a list of distros and rule them in
>> >> or
>> >> out as we go.
>> >
>> > Yes, hard if you do not know what should be done. There is no installer
>> > option that actually works (you can select GNOME, but you're not getting
>> > anything near the full GNOME, nor the default theme).
>> >
>> > Instructions itself: You have to install "task-gnome" meta-package and
>> > select Adwaita in gnome-tweak-tool. Missing stuff: By default not even
>> > Nautilus is installed. I'm hoping to create another package which does
>> > this for you, but not sure if I can complete it before Mageia version
>> > freeze. Also not totally sure on how to solve it "nicely".
>> >
>> > So although you can have an excellent GNOME experience in Mageia, by
>> > default it is far from it. Initially the text on getting-gnome was
>> > minimal, as I failed to get a nice default GNOME experience I was
>> > planning to put the concrete instructions on the getting-gnome page.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Olav
>> > --
>> > marketing-list mailing list
>> > marketing-list@gnome.org
>> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Akshay vyas
>> --
>> marketing-list mailing list
>> marketing-list@gnome.org
>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
>
>
>
>
> --
> Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power
> and magic in it. - Goethe
>
> Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and
> those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss
>
> Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts
> can be counted. - Albert Einstein
--
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--
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Re: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org
HI Allan Day I think you are right but still there is one thing confusing me that is adding ubuntu because ubuntu is not using GNOME3 completely they aren't giving GNOME3 in their default distribution not even in ubuntu 12.04 ,as far as i know there is a package which an ubuntu user can install to get the GNOME look (an additional package) so i completely disagree on adding ubuntu because i have never seen any GNOME thing after UBUNT10.10 like its written on fedora download page and on opensuse also that their default distribution is GNOME and i never see UBUNTU mentioned this after 10.10 so i request you to please confirm about ubuntu Regards Akshay On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 09:30:45AM -0400, Emily Gonyer wrote: >> So, what your saying is that its really hard to get a good GNOME 3 install >> on Mageia and therefor it shouldn't be on the list of distros, correct? I >> get that. Theres a reason we don't list *every* distro on the page >> afterall! Maybe we should come up with a concrete set of 'rules' to be >> listed and then work our way through a list of distros and rule them in or >> out as we go. > > Yes, hard if you do not know what should be done. There is no installer > option that actually works (you can select GNOME, but you're not getting > anything near the full GNOME, nor the default theme). > > Instructions itself: You have to install "task-gnome" meta-package and > select Adwaita in gnome-tweak-tool. Missing stuff: By default not even > Nautilus is installed. I'm hoping to create another package which does > this for you, but not sure if I can complete it before Mageia version > freeze. Also not totally sure on how to solve it "nicely". > > So although you can have an excellent GNOME experience in Mageia, by > default it is far from it. Initially the text on getting-gnome was > minimal, as I failed to get a nice default GNOME experience I was > planning to put the concrete instructions on the getting-gnome page. > > -- > Regards, > Olav > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Akshay vyas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org
Hi
Andre Klapper
Linux mint is using MGSE ie the gnome-extensions created by them on gnome3
i dont think ur wrong here they configured(modified) linux mint with
some extensions
to make it more user friendly
here's the link http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_lisa_whatsnew.php
and about ubuntu i dont think they are using GNOME on their default
distribution
according to distrowatch its unity for ubuntu and GNOME for linux mint
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mint
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Hi Akshay,
>
> On Sun, 2012-04-01 at 01:45 +0530, Akshay Vyas wrote:
>> Missed linux mint,Linux mint also has GNOME3 in their main/base
>> distribution and as
>> far as i know it is most popular amongst the linux newbies
>
> I must admit that I don't know much about recent Linux Mint developments
> and decisions. I'd see the same problem as with Ubuntu (see below: "By
> default Ubuntu comes with something that is very different from what we
> advertise on our websites") but I am happy to be proven wrong. :)
> So in case that you know: Does Linux Mint 12 by default use gnome-shell,
> or does it use MGSE, or other shells such as Mate (or Cinnamon in
> version 13) by default?
> I've been quickly reading through http://blog.linuxmint.com/ but could
> not find anything that makes it much clearer either to me.
>
> andre
>
>> 2012/4/1 Juanjo Marín :
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > - Mensaje original -
>> >> De: Andreas Nilsson
>> >> Para: marketing-list
>> >> CC:
>> >> Enviado: Sábado 31 de marzo de 2012 15:40
>> >> Asunto: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org
>> >>
>> >> Hi!
>> >> Shortly before the 3.4 release the web team made some adjustments to the
>> >> page
>> >> http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/
>> >> This made the links for Arch Linux, Mageia and Debian smaller. I feel some
>> >> explaining of the rationale behind this is in order so that we don't end
>> >> up
>> >> with the same thing again within the next 6 months.
>> >>
>> >> We made this change so it would be more straight to get GNOME for the
>> >> largest
>> >> share of website visitors possible. Taking aside the fact that it's a
>> >> fairly
>> >> complicated business to get yourself a working GNOME 3 system compared to
>> >> say,
>> >> installing Firefox or LibreOffice, I felt these three systems are fair
>> >> compromises (they are also ordered alphabetically):
>> >> * Fedora - best in class, big download link straight off their website
>> >> and a
>> >> system that is very close to a vanilla GNOME 3 system (+ some software I
>> >> am
>> >> somewhat unhappy about like SELinux, ABRT but that's ok).
>> >> * OpenSUSE - Some jumping through hoops in order to get what you're
>> >> actually
>> >> looking for and a certain risk of ending up with KDE or some other system
>> >> in the
>> >> end. I've talked to Jos and the current link is the best we can do today.
>> >> [1]
>> >> * Ubuntu - By default Ubuntu comes with something that is very different
>> >> from
>> >> what we advertise on our websites, but questions about how to install
>> >> latest
>> >> GNOME 3 on Ubuntu keeps coming up a lot on our G+, Facebook and news
>> >> articles,
>> >> so hopefully the apt:-link will do all right.
>> >>
>> >> So what about the others then? I forgot about the Amazing Distro X! :)
>> >> I felt that the instructions for Arch ("GNOME is available in the _extra_
>> >> repository"), Mageia ("GNOME 3 is coming in the next version")
>> >> and Debian ("In experimental, not in stable at all"). All these
>> >> distros are probably really cool, but they are making things harder for
>> >> our
>> >> users. But! I am hopeful that their website front pages will do their
>> >> best to
>> >> advertise how to get a working GNOME 3 system up and running in very
>> >> little time
>> >> in the future.
>> >>
>> >
>> > For me it's ok, though IMHO I've found the font size too small and
>> > difficult to read, at
>> > least for me. I think that showing the links of these distros in a single
>> > line is enough to
>> > note that your state above.
>> >
>> > Just my two cents,
>> >
>> > -- Juanjo Marin
>> > --
>> > marketing-list mailing list
>> > marketing-list@gnome.org
>> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Akshay vyas
>
> --
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> http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper
>
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Re: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org
Missed linux mint,Linux mint also has GNOME3 in their main/base
distribution and as
far as i know it is most popular amongst the linux newbies
2012/4/1 Juanjo Marín :
>
>
>
>
> - Mensaje original -
>> De: Andreas Nilsson
>> Para: marketing-list
>> CC:
>> Enviado: Sábado 31 de marzo de 2012 15:40
>> Asunto: Getting GNOME page on gnome.org
>>
>> Hi!
>> Shortly before the 3.4 release the web team made some adjustments to the page
>> http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/
>> This made the links for Arch Linux, Mageia and Debian smaller. I feel some
>> explaining of the rationale behind this is in order so that we don't end up
>> with the same thing again within the next 6 months.
>>
>> We made this change so it would be more straight to get GNOME for the largest
>> share of website visitors possible. Taking aside the fact that it's a fairly
>> complicated business to get yourself a working GNOME 3 system compared to
>> say,
>> installing Firefox or LibreOffice, I felt these three systems are fair
>> compromises (they are also ordered alphabetically):
>> * Fedora - best in class, big download link straight off their website and a
>> system that is very close to a vanilla GNOME 3 system (+ some software I am
>> somewhat unhappy about like SELinux, ABRT but that's ok).
>> * OpenSUSE - Some jumping through hoops in order to get what you're actually
>> looking for and a certain risk of ending up with KDE or some other system in
>> the
>> end. I've talked to Jos and the current link is the best we can do today.
>> [1]
>> * Ubuntu - By default Ubuntu comes with something that is very different from
>> what we advertise on our websites, but questions about how to install latest
>> GNOME 3 on Ubuntu keeps coming up a lot on our G+, Facebook and news
>> articles,
>> so hopefully the apt:-link will do all right.
>>
>> So what about the others then? I forgot about the Amazing Distro X! :)
>> I felt that the instructions for Arch ("GNOME is available in the _extra_
>> repository"), Mageia ("GNOME 3 is coming in the next version")
>> and Debian ("In experimental, not in stable at all"). All these
>> distros are probably really cool, but they are making things harder for our
>> users. But! I am hopeful that their website front pages will do their best to
>> advertise how to get a working GNOME 3 system up and running in very little
>> time
>> in the future.
>>
>
> For me it's ok, though IMHO I've found the font size too small and difficult
> to read, at
> least for me. I think that showing the links of these distros in a single
> line is enough to
> note that your state above.
>
> Just my two cents,
>
> -- Juanjo Marin
> --
> marketing-list mailing list
> marketing-list@gnome.org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
--
Akshay vyas
--
marketing-list mailing list
marketing-list@gnome.org
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
