Re: bad press in the G+ circles/press

2011-08-08 Thread pec...@gmail.com
2011/8/8 Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net:
 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
 I'm not saying other Gnome people, but rather other Gnome users are not
 chiming in and supporting it.

 That might tell you something right there.

 GNOME 3.0 might be awesomesauce for new users, but it doesn't seem to
 be striking a chord with existing GNOME users. So, what seems to be
 happening here is trading an established user base for a potential
 user base - with very little muscle to reach the potential user base.

Well, first of all, I suggest to ignore such notions or posts. Sorry,
but just because Linus doesn't like it (he has bashed GNOME 2 before,
twice), it doesn't mean that GNOME 3 is invalid. Everyone can have his
personal opinion. Famous people pitches are nice touch, but usually
works for applications, not for entire environments.

Mine casual experience says that most of regular Ubuntu users (2 - 3
years) *I know* for example dig GNOME 3 and say it's better than Unity
and only few with very specific custom needs shun it. Of course, it
might differ from person to person, but overall feeling is that
regular GNOME users who doesn't customize a lot their environments
have no problems with GS and GNOME 3.

Just my two cents,
Peteris.
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Re: bad press in the G+ circles/press

2011-08-08 Thread pec...@gmail.com
2011/8/8 Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net:
 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anywho, this isn't a helpful comment. This list is for marketing GNOME.

 So, marketing GNOME means hearing no dissenting voices. Got it. Thanks
 for being very clear on that point.

If dissenting voices has nothing to offer than it is all wrong, I
will go with product x, then it is not even worth to bother, because
all it does it creates flame wars like this. There is constructive
criticism (bug reports, written use cases which doesn't work), and
then there is just empty posturing, just because you disagree with
overall direction of platform. I disagree with Apple direction for
example, but that's why I don't care to write how bad they are - I
just ignore them. Life is too short for such shit.

Peter.
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Re: Fallback / Classic Mode

2011-03-21 Thread pec...@gmail.com
For side note I wanted to add that I'm very happy that fallback/legacy
mode exists. If we are looking for actual GNOME 3 adaption, this is a
must, because people won't jump to GNOME 3 stright away. They will
move to it gradually.

Cheers and thanks everyone for this superb release!

Peter.
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