Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
Hola! On 14.11.2012 03:11, Karen Sandler wrote: Should we have a meeting to discuss this? Perhaps next week? I could even set up a conference line so we can hear each other :) Very good idea. We can use a dudle to find a time and date: https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/GNOME_FoG_Campaign_2012/ Note that times are UTC. And I will probably not be able to evaluate the dudle. Cheers, Tobi signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Tue, November 13, 2012 6:42 pm, Juanjo Marín wrote: Hi Oliver, Taking into account that Web is not a very popular application by now, most people don't care. A benefit/possibility of doing a campaign around WebKit2GTK+/Web would be to make the efforts more visible to the community and users. I think that what we need to make a FoG campaign for WebKit2GTK+ is a super feature that makes the difference for GNOME, even better if you can use in several parts of the desktop. It would certainly be possible to put together such list. Some features I come to think about that would be exiting to users are (not only including WebKit2GKT+) *Wayland support [1] *WebAudio implementation [2] *Support for HighDPI canvas [3] *Implement print preview in WebKit2 GTK+ [4] *Context menus [5] I think Juanjo has a point. The a11y campaign was not only successful financially but also in raising awareness for an important issue. While this isn't a requirement for a campaign, we should think a way to best couch whatever we choose to do. Perhaps we could do that for the Web too The issue a Web campaign would raise (as I view it) is the importance of of a native Web experience in GNOME. The list with features would then be more a matter of how to best present the campaign itself. Whichever campaign we do, we should make a decision quickly so we can launch before the holiday season. I absolutely agree. Should we have a meeting to discuss this? Perhaps next week? I could even set up a conference line so we can hear each other :) That would be great :) karen Just my two cents, -- Juanjo Marin 1. https://live.gnome.org/Epiphany/Roadmap/3.8 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2VALT-DMGUfeature=plcp 3. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2011-December/msg00030.html 4. https://docs.google.com/document/d/19V52k7L75MII6lcuxQtp-9uQxvxckdUIWUis4jXVp8k/edit# -- -mvh Oliver Propst -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list 1. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81456 2. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61355 3. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102180 4. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79226 5. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72099 -- -mvh Oliver Propst -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
De: Oliver Propst oliver.pro...@gmail.com Para: Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de CC: GNOME Marketing List marketing-list@gnome.org Enviado: Domingo 11 de noviembre de 2012 13:15 Asunto: Re: Friends of GNOME campaign Hi again. I now got two concrete proposals of how to present a Web campaign. One option is as previous suggested to do a campaign specifically with the aim of shipping a WebKit2 based version of Web. The benefit with this proposal is that much of the Web teams effort is currently at shipping a WebKit2 based version of Web. This would make a clear connection between the campaign and the current roadmap of Web [1]. It would also mean that the money raised would actually to a large degree cover the expanses of implementing the features that is being listed. The campaign would target the following features -Favicons -Remember HTTP and form passwords (complex) -User style sheet support -Unsubmitted modified forms warning -Inline source view -DNS prefetching The other option would be to do a Web campaign that list more general features that are missing from Web including: -WebKit2 support in Web -Queue/Read later section of the Overview -Favorites/Bookmarks section of the Overview -Nicely animated tab switching [2] This would mean to present the campaign in a similar way as the a11y campaign did [3], that is not to promise to implement every feature that is being listed but present a list with (general) missing features in Web, (since it would require a very large amount of money to implement all the features mentioned above). The benefit with this proposal is that it would be clear that the campaign is about improving Web by listing user visible features and could by doing so make people more willing to donate. The basic principle is regardless to make people excited about a native web experience in GNOME. The the financial goal of the campaign would be something around k30$. I have made a document that summarizes the proposal [4] Are this something we want to do, thoughts/feedback are very much welcome. If there is no interest of doing a Web campaign either around WebKit2 or a more general one I think its time for other members in the marketing team to step-up present/be more concrete about their proposals, as it will soon have been a full year since the a11y campaign was launched. Hi Oliver, My main concern about your proposal is that I think that a list of features is not very consistent for a FoG campaign without a clear message. Taking into account that Web is not a very popular application by now, most people don't care. Don't get me wrong, I support Web, but a list of concrete technical features of an application not very popular by now doesn't attract too many people for a donation IMHO. I think that what we need to make a FoG campaign for WebKit2GTK+ is a super feature that makes the difference for GNOME, even better if you can use in several parts of the desktop. Maybe Tobias Mueller idea of Privacy and Security can be this super feature. Just my two cents, -- Juanjo Marin 1. https://live.gnome.org/Epiphany/Roadmap/3.8 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2VALT-DMGUfeature=plcp 3. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2011-December/msg00030.html 4. https://docs.google.com/document/d/19V52k7L75MII6lcuxQtp-9uQxvxckdUIWUis4jXVp8k/edit# -- -mvh Oliver Propst -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
On Tue, November 13, 2012 6:42 pm, Juanjo Marín wrote: De: Oliver Propst oliver.pro...@gmail.com Para: Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de CC: GNOME Marketing List marketing-list@gnome.org Enviado: Domingo 11 de noviembre de 2012 13:15 Asunto: Re: Friends of GNOME campaign Hi again. I now got two concrete proposals of how to present a Web campaign. One option is as previous suggested to do a campaign specifically with the aim of shipping a WebKit2 based version of Web. The benefit with this proposal is that much of the Web teams effort is currently at shipping a WebKit2 based version of Web. This would make a clear connection between the campaign and the current roadmap of Web [1]. It would also mean that the money raised would actually to a large degree cover the expanses of implementing the features that is being listed. The campaign would target the following features -Favicons -Remember HTTP and form passwords (complex) -User style sheet support -Unsubmitted modified forms warning -Inline source view -DNS prefetching The other option would be to do a Web campaign that list more general features that are missing from Web including: -WebKit2 support in Web -Queue/Read later section of the Overview -Favorites/Bookmarks section of the Overview -Nicely animated tab switching [2] This would mean to present the campaign in a similar way as the a11y campaign did [3], that is not to promise to implement every feature that is being listed but present a list with (general) missing features in Web, (since it would require a very large amount of money to implement all the features mentioned above). The benefit with this proposal is that it would be clear that the campaign is about improving Web by listing user visible features and could by doing so make people more willing to donate. The basic principle is regardless to make people excited about a native web experience in GNOME. The the financial goal of the campaign would be something around k30$. I have made a document that summarizes the proposal [4] Are this something we want to do, thoughts/feedback are very much welcome. If there is no interest of doing a Web campaign either around WebKit2 or a more general one I think its time for other members in the marketing team to step-up present/be more concrete about their proposals, as it will soon have been a full year since the a11y campaign was launched. Thanks for suggesting this, and you're quite right to get us moving on a campaign! Hi Oliver, My main concern about your proposal is that I think that a list of features is not very consistent for a FoG campaign without a clear message. Taking into account that Web is not a very popular application by now, most people don't care. Don't get me wrong, I support Web, but a list of concrete technical features of an application not very popular by now doesn't attract too many people for a donation IMHO. I think that what we need to make a FoG campaign for WebKit2GTK+ is a super feature that makes the difference for GNOME, even better if you can use in several parts of the desktop. Maybe Tobias Mueller idea of Privacy and Security can be this super feature. I think Juanjo has a point. The a11y campaign was not only successful financially but also in raising awareness for an important issue. While this isn't a requirement for a campaign, we should think a way to best couch whatever we choose to do. Perhaps we could do that for the Web too. Part of the reason that Privacy/Security came up was because of some of the ideological discussion we had at GUADEC. So this is a more natural fit. However, if there's no one to drive that campaign it may be better to do something else this time. Whichever campaign we do, we should make a decision quickly so we can launch before the holiday season. Should we have a meeting to discuss this? Perhaps next week? I could even set up a conference line so we can hear each other :) karen Just my two cents, -- Juanjo Marin 1. https://live.gnome.org/Epiphany/Roadmap/3.8 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2VALT-DMGUfeature=plcp 3. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2011-December/msg00030.html 4. https://docs.google.com/document/d/19V52k7L75MII6lcuxQtp-9uQxvxckdUIWUis4jXVp8k/edit# -- -mvh Oliver Propst -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
Hi again. I now got two concrete proposals of how to present a Web campaign. One option is as previous suggested to do a campaign specifically with the aim of shipping a WebKit2 based version of Web. The benefit with this proposal is that much of the Web teams effort is currently at shipping a WebKit2 based version of Web. This would make a clear connection between the campaign and the current roadmap of Web [1]. It would also mean that the money raised would actually to a large degree cover the expanses of implementing the features that is being listed. The campaign would target the following features -Favicons -Remember HTTP and form passwords (complex) -User style sheet support -Unsubmitted modified forms warning -Inline source view -DNS prefetching The other option would be to do a Web campaign that list more general features that are missing from Web including: -WebKit2 support in Web -Queue/Read later section of the Overview -Favorites/Bookmarks section of the Overview -Nicely animated tab switching [2] This would mean to present the campaign in a similar way as the a11y campaign did [3], that is not to promise to implement every feature that is being listed but present a list with (general) missing features in Web, (since it would require a very large amount of money to implement all the features mentioned above). The benefit with this proposal is that it would be clear that the campaign is about improving Web by listing user visible features and could by doing so make people more willing to donate. The basic principle is regardless to make people excited about a native web experience in GNOME. The the financial goal of the campaign would be something around k30$. I have made a document that summarizes the proposal [4] Are this something we want to do, thoughts/feedback are very much welcome. If there is no interest of doing a Web campaign either around WebKit2 or a more general one I think its time for other members in the marketing team to step-up present/be more concrete about their proposals, as it will soon have been a full year since the a11y campaign was launched. 1. https://live.gnome.org/Epiphany/Roadmap/3.8 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2VALT-DMGUfeature=plcp 3. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2011-December/msg00030.html 4. https://docs.google.com/document/d/19V52k7L75MII6lcuxQtp-9uQxvxckdUIWUis4jXVp8k/edit# -- -mvh Oliver Propst -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de wrote: Heya :) On 04.10.2012 00:43, Oliver Propst wrote: In what way do you feel it is detached? Simply because WebKit is not GNOME. And I can imagine people being confused why they should donate money for WebKit. The campaign would not be about improve WebKit (the rendering engine) but rather about improve the WebKit[2] GTK+ port. A good way get an idea of the difference and what define the GTK+ port of WebKit2 is to read this informative blogpost about the topic [1]. WebKit GTK+ as a library is becoming important for all users and to GNOME as a platform. This is because as previously mentioned more and more apps (beside browsers) are starting to use and relay on WebKit GTK+ to render the user interface (or parts of it) this includes, Rhythmbox ,Evolution,Yelp and others. Sure, it's about bringing WebKit2 to Epiphany, but I feel it's harder to communicate than other things more GNOME related. And I think raising funds works better if you don't have a hard time to communicate. In contrast, I feel that the Security and Privacy thing is much easier to communicate. It could be a challenge to communicate, but I see that as our job do to. I don't think we should base the choice of what campaign we run based on what is most easy to communicate about but rather what is most relevant to users and where extra resources are needed most. There are few things that is more relevant to users of a OS today then good implementation/support of the web. It is also about not give walkover and only let third party browsers like Firefox and Chrome define the web experience in GNOME. A WebKit2 /Epiphany campaign would thus be a opportunity to promote GNOME as a platform among users and community members. I don't see a contrition between a Security/Privacy and a WebKit2 GTK+ campaign, but again its a question of timing. Right now there is a lot of efforts around WebKit2 GTK+/Epiphany but a lack of resources. 1. http://blog.kov.eti.br/?p=110 -- -mvh Oliver Propst -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de wrote: I also like the WebKit idea although it feels a little bit detached to me. Nice to hear that you like the idea. In what way do you feel it is detached? -- -mvh Oliver Propst -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
Heya :) On 04.10.2012 00:43, Oliver Propst wrote: In what way do you feel it is detached? Simply because WebKit is not GNOME. And I can imagine people being confused why they should donate money for WebKit. Sure, it's about bringing WebKit2 to Epiphany, but I feel it's harder to communicate than other things more GNOME related. And I think raising funds works better if you don't have a hard time to communicate. In contrast, I feel that the Security and Privacy thing is much easier to communicate. Especially Karen is in a brilliant position to convey the message of security and privacy being important. Cheers, Tobi signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
Hey guys, I am totally onboaed with the privacy campaign. I also would like to suggest an alternative campaign. * Usability Testing Campaign * The goal would be to get real users in to do real use-cases which correspond to target verticals, watch the videos, file bugs and enable the designers to work on those issues. What do you think? Cheers Seif -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote: I am totally onboaed with the privacy campaign. I also would like to suggest an alternative campaign. * Usability Testing Campaign * The goal would be to get real users in to do real use-cases which correspond to target verticals, watch the videos, file bugs and enable the designers to work on those issues. What do you think? Usability testing or privacy are nice ideas, but we have to be able to link the money we will raise to these deliverables. How will extra funds ensure that these things happen? Can we guarantee that we will make progress if we raise enough cash? I asked about extra hardware for testing a little while back [1]. The answer I got [2] was that extra money wasn't currently required. It was implied that extra sysadmin resources would help though. One idea - could we raise money to support extra interns through the Outreach Program for Women? Allan [1] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-os-list/2012-August/msg00040.html [2] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-os-list/2012-August/msg00042.html -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
Hey guys, I am totally onboaed with the privacy campaign. I also would like to suggest an alternative campaign. * Usability Testing Campaign * The goal would be to get real users in to do real use-cases which correspond to target verticals, watch the videos, file bugs and enable the designers to work on those issues. What do you think? Cheers Seif -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
Heya :) On 27.09.2012 14:42, Oliver Propst wrote: Since it seams to be low interest/need of an SDK or hardware campaign right now, then it may be a good idea to explore other options. I like the SDK idea. I was told though that it was a tremendous effort to get the GStreamer SDK going. So I guess that a GNOME one will be even more challenging. I also like the WebKit idea although it feels a little bit detached to me. So far, I do like the idea of a privacy campaign best. And I see your concern about the right timing. I guess we can prepare it and then launch it once we think it's good to go. The list that Jake gave us during his keynote at GUADEC is probably good material to work with: Empathy should support OTR and it should be enabled by default (like adium) I heard this so many times, I nearly stopped asking for feedback at all! ZRTP/SRTP/TLS for all VoIP services (forward secrecy and strong crypto) Tor controller extension for gnome-shell – why settle for only having Vidalia? What if we could contextually launch applications anonymously? A 'Launch Torified' context for applications (perhaps with torsocks?)- NAT? Who cares? How about 'single-click file sharing over hidden services? Decentralized instant messaging – resist traffic analysis (Federated XMPP HS? For extra fun add decentralized and anonymous offline message queuing.) network-manager improvements: Ability to configure wireless networks before connecting to them VPN 'automatically connect' checkbox should work and no traffic should leak before the VPN comes up. VPN connections must fail closed. Ability to override DNS settings for all connections. macchanger support in network-manager Random MAC addresses per connection or per if-up Ability to use a Tor DNS resolver on unpriviliged port Normal modem support Full Tor support in NetworkManager Think of it as a free VPN Full Guest mode in Gnome/GDM that uses Tor by default for all network traffic – don't just refuse to write data to the disk, refuse to write information to the bare network too signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
Hi, With the new release out of the door I think it is time to give this item some attention again. Since it seams to be low interest/need of an SDK or hardware campaign right now, then it may be a good idea to explore other options. I have been thinking about a WebKit2 GTK+/Epiphany campaign that aims to rise founds to the WebKit2 GTK+ port and the official GNOME browser, Web (also known as Epiphany) [1]. The WebKit2 GKT+/Epiphany situation are in many similar to the state of a11y was (and to some degree are) many non-trivial bugs that needs to be addressed and missing key features. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=WebKit2 https://live.gnome.org/Epiphany/Roadmap/3.8?highlight=%28Webkit2%29|%28bugs%29|%28gnome%29 Since more and more GNOME applications and components are reallying on WebKit it is of increasingly importance and in interest of all GNOME users that there exists a stable implementation of WebKit2 GKT+ [2]. It is of course possible to question the idea of start a fundraising drive in part to raise funds to a browser since most GNOME users are probably using Firefox or Chromium. But if we want to have a coherent GNOME experience with a set of native GTK+ apps that people use, a first class browser are of critically importance, not the least from a marketing point of view. Not to mention the fact that Mozilla to a large extent are focused on other platforms. It is indeed hard to find something that is more relevant today then good support/implementation of the web. I have been in contact with key people involved in the WebKit2 GTK+/Epiphany effort and this is something they are interested in doing. If there is interest in this we could make a formal proposal and present it to the board. 1. https://live.gnome.org/WebKitGtk 2. http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/ApplicationsGtk -- -mvh Oliver Propst -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, August 16, 2 A bunch of us were talking also about a privacy/security campaign following Jake's talk at GUADEC (like specifically for adding OTR to empathy...) and I think that would be really awesome. I've been following up at finding partners for that too. The idea of a privacy campaign is not bad but it is a question of timing. Right now I feel as it would be a better idea to build on the excitement around the GNOME OS effort. I do not think that we should limit ourself to do just one FOG campaign that target the GNOME OS effort, but have GNOME OS a theme in upcoming campaigns. One campaign could focus on get development hardware and another could focus on collecting resources to kickstart the development of an SDK. Then again it's become a question of timing. I guess that we would need is information from developers what they feel is most needed right now, hardware or extra resources to start developing an SDK. Personally I would be more in favor of first doing an SDK campaign and then a hardware campaign, what good do hardware do if there is no easy way to develop applications that run on it. -- -Mvh Oliver Propst -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
- Mensaje original - De: Oliver Propst oliver.pro...@gmail.com Para: ka...@gnome.org CC: marketing-list@gnome.org Enviado: Miércoles 18 de abril de 2012 1:22 Asunto: Re: Friends of GNOME campaign On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: hi all, We've had the accessibility campaign up for a while, and I'm going to post a new item about it this week (pointing to Diego's story - http://www-old.gnome.org/friends/a11y-testimonial-2.html) but I think it's time to start looking ahead. What do we think the next campaign should be? And when should we ideally launch it? (While giving full consideration to running the current campaign for the right amount of time.) karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list Maybe the current campaign should continue until GNOME ASIA in the beginning/middle of June. The next campaign could start in end of July/the beginning of August and continue through the fall to November and in December we can lunch a Christmas/New Year campaign. The end of July/ beginning of August are a good time to start a new campaign because the GNOME project usually get some press attention around that time because of GUADEC and the upcoming release in September. Here are a few suggestions of themes for a new campaign. Website/infrastructure campaign. One resource that many GNOME users and contributors take for granted are the websites and infrastructure that support the GNOME project in various way. In the marketing meeting we had back in October it was stated that the website/infrastructure was not in ideal shape (http://goo.gl/eB0um). I know that the past months great progress have been made with the websites (foundation website migration to new design). A campaign to raise money for website/infrastructure work could also be a good way to raise awareness about the GNOME infrastructure. The money collected could be used to improve the website/infrastructure and finish outstanding website projects (mention of the projects are in meeting minutes). Developer documentation campaign If the GNOME project are to succeed it is important that great apps are available and if want we want developers to write great apps for GNOME it is important that they have access to good developer documentation (including examples). While the developer documentation are not that bad today, I think it could be much better. When I look at the developer documentation I get the feeling that there are certain 'gaps' that need to be filled, certain topics needed to be explained in greater detail and we need to provide more code examples tutorials. The money collected could be used to “fill the the gaps” and construct examples/tutorials. Tagline: Help make great GNOME 3 apps possible Good developers want good documentation, help make it possible Anjuta IDE campaign As well as it is important for developers to have access to good documentation it is important for all GNOME developers that do non trivial programming to have access to a great IDE. As I understand it, the official GNOME IDE Anjuta are missing features from a modern state of the art IDE, look a bit outdated and have old non trivial bugs that need to be resolved. A campaign could raise money to help fix these issues. Tagline: Ease the life for GNOME developers “Help make it easy and enjoyable to develop for GNOME” In general I think the upcoming campaign should aim at making the life easier for GNOME developers and thus make it easier to contribute to GNOME. Hi ! I think is time to retake this proposal. AFAIK, people who are working in the GNOME OS proposal need some hardware for testing. This could be another target for the FoG campaign. Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
I think campaigns that target the development of GNOME are often most successful. So I think hardware for GNOME OS might be a good one. Stormy On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.eswrote: - Mensaje original - De: Oliver Propst oliver.pro...@gmail.com Para: ka...@gnome.org CC: marketing-list@gnome.org Enviado: Miércoles 18 de abril de 2012 1:22 Asunto: Re: Friends of GNOME campaign On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: hi all, We've had the accessibility campaign up for a while, and I'm going to post a new item about it this week (pointing to Diego's story - http://www-old.gnome.org/friends/a11y-testimonial-2.html) but I think it's time to start looking ahead. What do we think the next campaign should be? And when should we ideally launch it? (While giving full consideration to running the current campaign for the right amount of time.) karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list Maybe the current campaign should continue until GNOME ASIA in the beginning/middle of June. The next campaign could start in end of July/the beginning of August and continue through the fall to November and in December we can lunch a Christmas/New Year campaign. The end of July/ beginning of August are a good time to start a new campaign because the GNOME project usually get some press attention around that time because of GUADEC and the upcoming release in September. Here are a few suggestions of themes for a new campaign. Website/infrastructure campaign. One resource that many GNOME users and contributors take for granted are the websites and infrastructure that support the GNOME project in various way. In the marketing meeting we had back in October it was stated that the website/infrastructure was not in ideal shape (http://goo.gl/eB0um). I know that the past months great progress have been made with the websites (foundation website migration to new design). A campaign to raise money for website/infrastructure work could also be a good way to raise awareness about the GNOME infrastructure. The money collected could be used to improve the website/infrastructure and finish outstanding website projects (mention of the projects are in meeting minutes). Developer documentation campaign If the GNOME project are to succeed it is important that great apps are available and if want we want developers to write great apps for GNOME it is important that they have access to good developer documentation (including examples). While the developer documentation are not that bad today, I think it could be much better. When I look at the developer documentation I get the feeling that there are certain 'gaps' that need to be filled, certain topics needed to be explained in greater detail and we need to provide more code examples tutorials. The money collected could be used to “fill the the gaps” and construct examples/tutorials. Tagline: Help make great GNOME 3 apps possible Good developers want good documentation, help make it possible Anjuta IDE campaign As well as it is important for developers to have access to good documentation it is important for all GNOME developers that do non trivial programming to have access to a great IDE. As I understand it, the official GNOME IDE Anjuta are missing features from a modern state of the art IDE, look a bit outdated and have old non trivial bugs that need to be resolved. A campaign could raise money to help fix these issues. Tagline: Ease the life for GNOME developers “Help make it easy and enjoyable to develop for GNOME” In general I think the upcoming campaign should aim at making the life easier for GNOME developers and thus make it easier to contribute to GNOME. Hi ! I think is time to retake this proposal. AFAIK, people who are working in the GNOME OS proposal need some hardware for testing. This could be another target for the FoG campaign. Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
On Thu, August 16, 2012 10:17 pm, Stormy Peters wrote: I think campaigns that target the development of GNOME are often most successful. So I think hardware for GNOME OS might be a good one. I also think it's a good idea. A bunch of us were talking also about a privacy/security campaign following Jake's talk at GUADEC (like specifically for adding OTR to empathy...) and I think that would be really awesome. I've been following up at finding partners for that too. Which would be best for the next campaign? I like there being an ideological component to the campaign as I think it gets people thinking about important issues, even if they're not able to donate. Either sound like good campaigns! As for GNOME OS, I like the idea for targeting hardware for GNOME development, but as I've said on multiple occasions, I'd really like to come up with a better name for what we've been talking about as GNOME OS. I think that name is confusing and is partially responsible for some of the negative press we've gotten around the intiative(s). Moreover, some of our partners have also expressed dissatisfaction with the name. Given that a recent discussion on this list regarding naming became news, should we establish a committee to privately discuss this further? :) karen Stormy On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.eswrote: - Mensaje original - De: Oliver Propst oliver.pro...@gmail.com Para: ka...@gnome.org CC: marketing-list@gnome.org Enviado: Miércoles 18 de abril de 2012 1:22 Asunto: Re: Friends of GNOME campaign On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: hi all, We've had the accessibility campaign up for a while, and I'm going to post a new item about it this week (pointing to Diego's story - http://www-old.gnome.org/friends/a11y-testimonial-2.html) but I think it's time to start looking ahead. What do we think the next campaign should be? And when should we ideally launch it? (While giving full consideration to running the current campaign for the right amount of time.) karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list Maybe the current campaign should continue until GNOME ASIA in the beginning/middle of June. The next campaign could start in end of July/the beginning of August and continue through the fall to November and in December we can lunch a Christmas/New Year campaign. The end of July/ beginning of August are a good time to start a new campaign because the GNOME project usually get some press attention around that time because of GUADEC and the upcoming release in September. Here are a few suggestions of themes for a new campaign. Website/infrastructure campaign. One resource that many GNOME users and contributors take for granted are the websites and infrastructure that support the GNOME project in various way. In the marketing meeting we had back in October it was stated that the website/infrastructure was not in ideal shape (http://goo.gl/eB0um). I know that the past months great progress have been made with the websites (foundation website migration to new design). A campaign to raise money for website/infrastructure work could also be a good way to raise awareness about the GNOME infrastructure. The money collected could be used to improve the website/infrastructure and finish outstanding website projects (mention of the projects are in meeting minutes). Developer documentation campaign If the GNOME project are to succeed it is important that great apps are available and if want we want developers to write great apps for GNOME it is important that they have access to good developer documentation (including examples). While the developer documentation are not that bad today, I think it could be much better. When I look at the developer documentation I get the feeling that there are certain 'gaps' that need to be filled, certain topics needed to be explained in greater detail and we need to provide more code examples tutorials. The money collected could be used to fill the the gaps and construct examples/tutorials. Tagline: Help make great GNOME 3 apps possible Good developers want good documentation, help make it possible Anjuta IDE campaign As well as it is important for developers to have access to good documentation it is important for all GNOME developers that do non trivial programming to have access to a great IDE. As I understand it, the official GNOME IDE Anjuta are missing features from a modern state of the art IDE, look a bit outdated and have old non trivial bugs that need to be resolved. A campaign could raise money to help fix these issues. Tagline: Ease the life for GNOME developers Help make it easy and enjoyable to develop for GNOME In general I think
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Bryen M Yunashko a11yro...@bryen.comwrote: Website/infrastructure campaign. One resource that many GNOME users and contributors take for granted are the websites and infrastructure that support the GNOME project in various way. In the marketing meeting we had back in October it was stated that the website/infrastructure was not in ideal shape (http://goo.gl/eB0um). I know that the past months great progress have been made with the websites (foundation website migration to new design). I'm not sure this would be effective for a campaign. Yes you raise valid points about why we could use additional funds to cover infrastructure, but from a human-appeal POV, I don't think a campaign about web infrastructure is going to make someone dig into their pockets to donate, unless they happen to be close to GNOME already. This campaign would leave out those who might donate out of a basic human appeal. A few years ago when I ran a survey, most donors were close to the project and wanted to contribute but did not have either time or skills. The sys admin campaign was definitely a success. Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: hi all, We've had the accessibility campaign up for a while, and I'm going to post a new item about it this week (pointing to Diego's story - http://www-old.gnome.org/friends/a11y-testimonial-2.html) but I think it's time to start looking ahead. What do we think the next campaign should be? And when should we ideally launch it? (While giving full consideration to running the current campaign for the right amount of time.) karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list Maybe the current campaign should continue until GNOME ASIA in the beginning/middle of June. The next campaign could start in end of July/the beginning of August and continue through the fall to November and in December we can lunch a Christmas/New Year campaign. The end of July/ beginning of August are a good time to start a new campaign because the GNOME project usually get some press attention around that time because of GUADEC and the upcoming release in September. Here are a few suggestions of themes for a new campaign. Website/infrastructure campaign. One resource that many GNOME users and contributors take for granted are the websites and infrastructure that support the GNOME project in various way. In the marketing meeting we had back in October it was stated that the website/infrastructure was not in ideal shape (http://goo.gl/eB0um). I know that the past months great progress have been made with the websites (foundation website migration to new design). A campaign to raise money for website/infrastructure work could also be a good way to raise awareness about the GNOME infrastructure. The money collected could be used to improve the website/infrastructure and finish outstanding website projects (mention of the projects are in meeting minutes). Developer documentation campaign If the GNOME project are to succeed it is important that great apps are available and if want we want developers to write great apps for GNOME it is important that they have access to good developer documentation (including examples). While the developer documentation are not that bad today, I think it could be much better. When I look at the developer documentation I get the feeling that there are certain 'gaps' that need to be filled, certain topics needed to be explained in greater detail and we need to provide more code examples tutorials. The money collected could be used to “fill the the gaps” and construct examples/tutorials. Tagline: Help make great GNOME 3 apps possible Good developers want good documentation, help make it possible Anjuta IDE campaign As well as it is important for developers to have access to good documentation it is important for all GNOME developers that do non trivial programming to have access to a great IDE. As I understand it, the official GNOME IDE Anjuta are missing features from a modern state of the art IDE, look a bit outdated and have old non trivial bugs that need to be resolved. A campaign could raise money to help fix these issues. Tagline: Ease the life for GNOME developers “Help make it easy and enjoyable to develop for GNOME” In general I think the upcoming campaign should aim at making the life easier for GNOME developers and thus make it easier to contribute to GNOME. -- -Mvh Oliver Propst -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 01:22 +0200, Oliver Propst wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: hi all, We've had the accessibility campaign up for a while, and I'm going to post a new item about it this week (pointing to Diego's story - http://www-old.gnome.org/friends/a11y-testimonial-2.html) but I think it's time to start looking ahead. What do we think the next campaign should be? And when should we ideally launch it? (While giving full consideration to running the current campaign for the right amount of time.) karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list Maybe the current campaign should continue until GNOME ASIA in the beginning/middle of June. The next campaign could start in end of July/the beginning of August and continue through the fall to November and in December we can lunch a Christmas/New Year campaign. The end of July/ beginning of August are a good time to start a new campaign because the GNOME project usually get some press attention around that time because of GUADEC and the upcoming release in September. Here are a few suggestions of themes for a new campaign. Website/infrastructure campaign. One resource that many GNOME users and contributors take for granted are the websites and infrastructure that support the GNOME project in various way. In the marketing meeting we had back in October it was stated that the website/infrastructure was not in ideal shape (http://goo.gl/eB0um). I know that the past months great progress have been made with the websites (foundation website migration to new design). I'm not sure this would be effective for a campaign. Yes you raise valid points about why we could use additional funds to cover infrastructure, but from a human-appeal POV, I don't think a campaign about web infrastructure is going to make someone dig into their pockets to donate, unless they happen to be close to GNOME already. This campaign would leave out those who might donate out of a basic human appeal. A campaign to raise money for website/infrastructure work could also be a good way to raise awareness about the GNOME infrastructure. The money collected could be used to improve the website/infrastructure and finish outstanding website projects (mention of the projects are in meeting minutes). Developer documentation campaign If the GNOME project are to succeed it is important that great apps are available and if want we want developers to write great apps for GNOME it is important that they have access to good developer documentation (including examples). While the developer documentation are not that bad today, I think it could be much better. When I look at the developer documentation I get the feeling that there are certain 'gaps' that need to be filled, certain topics needed to be explained in greater detail and we need to provide more code examples tutorials. The money collected could be used to “fill the the gaps” and construct examples/tutorials. Tagline: Help make great GNOME 3 apps possible Good developers want good documentation, help make it possible I love this idea. Only one problem, money raised != documentation written. Just because we've raised the money doesn't mean we'll get developers to document or at the very least collaborate on documentation. People are going to want to know their money was actually put to good use and if 1 year from the end of campaign we still have same level of documentaiton quality, people are not going to forgive us the next time we ask for money. :-) Anjuta IDE campaign As well as it is important for developers to have access to good documentation it is important for all GNOME developers that do non trivial programming to have access to a great IDE. As I understand it, the official GNOME IDE Anjuta are missing features from a modern state of the art IDE, look a bit outdated and have old non trivial bugs that need to be resolved. A campaign could raise money to help fix these issues. Tagline: Ease the life for GNOME developers “Help make it easy and enjoyable to develop for GNOME” This would be a viable campaign. Not sure if it would be exciting to the masses, but it spears two benefits: 1) Raise money for Anjuta and 2) Raise awareness about the existence of Anjuta. Anyone who sees Anjuta will ask Gee, what's that? and investigate a bit more (hopefully.) In general I think the upcoming campaign should aim at making the life easier for GNOME developers and thus make it easier to contribute to GNOME. -- -Mvh Oliver Propst -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Friends of GNOME campaign
hi all, We've had the accessibility campaign up for a while, and I'm going to post a new item about it this week (pointing to Diego's story - http://www-old.gnome.org/friends/a11y-testimonial-2.html) but I think it's time to start looking ahead. What do we think the next campaign should be? And when should we ideally launch it? (While giving full consideration to running the current campaign for the right amount of time.) karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign
De: Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org Para: Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org CC: marketing-list@gnome.org Enviado: martes 6 de diciembre de 2011 18:50 Asunto: Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Do we have some examples of GNOME users whose lives were made measurably better because of the a11y work we've done? Show-cases work wonders. I agree with Dave that a quote or a case study would make it more real. People are much more willing to donate to save a particular kid (Joey) who is sick than they are to donate to an organization that helps vaccinate 1000s of kids. Also, I think we should end with a call to action. What do we want them to do? ex: Donate $25 now and help us reach another person. It sounds good :-) By now I only have one Robert Cole case https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-accessibility-list/2011-November/msg00025.html and I'm contacting another person Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign
- Mensaje original - De: Michael Hall mhall...@ubuntu.com Para: marketing-list@gnome.org; ubuntu-accessibil...@lists.ubuntu.com CC: Enviado: jueves 8 de diciembre de 2011 1:13 Asunto: Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign Forwarding this on to the Ubuntu accessibility team, and they might have some good real-life stories to share as well. Michael Hall mhall...@ubuntu.com Thank you Michael. Any help counts ;-) -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign
Forwarding this on to the Ubuntu accessibility team, and they might have some good real-life stories to share as well. Michael Hall mhall...@ubuntu.com On 12/06/2011 12:50 PM, Stormy Peters wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org wrote: Do we have some examples of GNOME users whose lives were made measurably better because of the a11y work we've done? Show-cases work wonders. I agree with Dave that a quote or a case study would make it more real. People are much more willing to donate to save a particular kid (Joey) who is sick than they are to donate to an organization that helps vaccinate 1000s of kids. Also, I think we should end with a call to action. What do we want them to do? ex: Donate $25 now and help us reach another person. Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign
Hi Karen, On 11/28/2011 08:04 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: jjmarin and I are working on this text to promote the FoG campaign we hope to launch next week. How can we improve it? Also, do you like Make 2012 the year of accessibility for GNOME as a short tagline? I hate to say it, but I'm not sure if Accessibility as an abstract concept will sell. Do we have some examples of GNOME users whose lives were made measurably better because of the a11y work we've done? Show-cases work wonders. With your help we can start tackling those goals. Let's kickstart 2012 as the Year of Accessibility at GNOME and make the most usable desktop environment the most accessible desktop environment! Do we have any specific improvements (and the reasons why they're important - or the people for whom they're important) to point to? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign
Hi all. I apologize for entering into the discussion, but in my opinion should be presented as a Gnome user friendly desktop. Version 3 has made a great leap forward, it is very technologically advanced desktop. Now we should think how to show people that it is usable. So I think it would be preferable (except slogan User friendly desktop) directly represent users and show their work with Gnome. Examples are the best. In summary: - User friendly desktop for all - just a slogan to rule them all :-) - Short video clips and examples of users work with gnome - Why and for what I use Gnome? On what computer / laptop / monitor using Gnome direct answers and articles users This should be part of a campaign that could be directly targeted in two directions: to show benefits of regular Gnome users and also invite them to participate to improve the user experience when using the Gnome desktop. What should be the main objective of this campaign? New users of Gnome or greater involvement in the preparation of new friends next release of Gnome? Best regards Viktor Machek - fan of Gnome :-) (Czech rep.) ps. ...and sorry for my English.. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 20:22, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Karen, On 11/28/2011 08:04 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: jjmarin and I are working on this text to promote the FoG campaign we hope to launch next week. How can we improve it? Also, do you like Make 2012 the year of accessibility for GNOME as a short tagline? I hate to say it, but I'm not sure if Accessibility as an abstract concept will sell. Do we have some examples of GNOME users whose lives were made measurably better because of the a11y work we've done? Show-cases work wonders. With your help we can start tackling those goals. Let's kickstart 2012 as the Year of Accessibility at GNOME and make the most usable desktop environment the most accessible desktop environment! Do we have any specific improvements (and the reasons why they're important - or the people for whom they're important) to point to? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/**listinfo/marketing-listhttp://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign
- Mensaje original - De: Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org Para: marketing-list@gnome.org On 11/28/2011 08:04 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: jjmarin and I are working on this text to promote the FoG campaign we hope to launch next week. How can we improve it? Also, do you like Make 2012 the year of accessibility for GNOME as a short tagline? I hate to say it, but I'm not sure if Accessibility as an abstract concept will sell. Do we have some examples of GNOME users whose lives were made measurably better because of the a11y work we've done? Show-cases work wonders. With your help we can start tackling those goals. Let's kickstart 2012 as the Year of Accessibility at GNOME and make the most usable desktop environment the most accessible desktop environment! Do we have any specific improvements (and the reasons why they're important - or the people for whom they're important) to point to? Hi, I think is worth to crossposting the following message from the marketing list to the accessibility list to get some feedback from users about how useful the accessibilty features of GNOME are in their lives and why it is important for them to keep working on this. Basically, there are a lot of accessibility tasks to be done in several areas. There are features to be implemented, for example, the gnome-shell Magnifier track focus and caret, and more obscure issues in the platform, like peformance Improvements which are important for getting a snapier user experience, just to name a couple of them. There are many tasks in the accessibilty roadmap [1] haven't been done yet because a lack of resources. Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin [1] Two year 2010-2012 accessibilty roadmap. https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/Roadmap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign
___ De: Viktor Machek mac...@gmail.com Para: marketing-list@gnome.org Enviado: lunes 28 de noviembre de 2011 21:01 Asunto: Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign Hi all. I apologize for entering into the discussion, but in my opinion should be presented as a Gnome user friendly desktop. Version 3 has made a great leap forward, it is very technologically advanced desktop. Now we should think how to show people that it is usable. So I think it would be preferable (except slogan User friendly desktop) directly represent users and show their work with Gnome. Examples are the best. In summary: - User friendly desktop for all - just a slogan to rule them all :-) - Short video clips and examples of users work with gnome - Why and for what I use Gnome? On what computer / laptop / monitor usingGnome direct answers and articles users This should be part of a campaign that could be directly targeted in two directions: to show benefits of regular Gnome users and also invite them to participate to improve the user experience when using the Gnome desktop. What should be the main objective of this campaign? New users of Gnome or greater involvement in the preparation of new friends next release of Gnome? Best regards Viktor Machek - fan of Gnome :-) (Czech rep.) Viktor, I am a little bit confused with your message. GNOME is always moving in the direction of having a user friendly desktop. The main purporse of this campaign is that we want to extend the new features to everyone, including users of all ages and abilities becasue we don't want to left people behind. So I think, under my understanding, that your message is not related to the subject of this thread. After said that, the gnome 3 page [1] has the kind of videos and information I think you want to find. Jason Clinton made these fantastic videos for GNOME 3.0, but unfortunately AFAIK nobody has volunteered for doing more videos since them. The new feaures are presented basically in the release notes [2] [1] http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/ [2] http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.2/ Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: IRC meeting for New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN
Just a reminder that our meeting is tonight/tomorrow morning! I look forward to seeing you all there. Stormy On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Juanjo Marin juanjomari...@yahoo.eswrote: On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 14:52 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: We will meet on IRC at 3:00 UTC Wednesday, Oct 20th. For those of you that are time zone challenged like I am, this is TUESDAY in many time zones, in particular it's 9pm Tuesday the 19th in MST. Please join us! irc.gnome.org/#marketing Oct 20, 3:00 UTC / Oct 19, 20:00 PST Stormy Hi, irc.gnome.org/#marketing This local time around the world for Wednesday, 20 October 2010, 03:00:00 UTC time http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=20month=10year=2010hour=3min=0sec=0p1=0 I hope this helps, -- Juanjo -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Doodle Meeting! Re: New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN!
We will reschedule the meeting. Tuesday 3am UTC is actually *Monday* 9pm in my time zone. I assume others also had this problem as Joey and Bryen were the only ones that showed up. Thanks to Joey and Bryen for hanging in there! I'll send another Doodle invite shortly. Stormy On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: We will meet Tuesday at 3am UTC. I realize this is not a good time for anyone in Europe but it worked the best for the people that filled out the poll. See you there! (IRC: irc.gnome.org, #marketing) Stormy On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I think a good way to kick this off would be with an IRC meeting to discuss some of the details. If you are interested, please indicate what times would work well for you: http://www.doodle.com/gadqfyrte69adi6a (Note that there are *3* days so please scroll all the way to the right and fill in all the times.) Best, Stormy On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Hi GNOME Marketing team, LWN and the GNOME Foundation have partnered to support the GNOME project! Every Friend of GNOME monthly subscriber will receive a subscription to LWN.net as part of their subscription. (For all subscribers that give $10+/month.) So it's time for a new Friends of GNOME campaign! This one is to show how great our community is - by focusing on our supporters instead of the dollars. In order to take advantage of our agreement with LWN, I'd love to see us do something big for a subscriber campaign. Here are some initial thoughts I have. We'll need everyone's help to make it happen, so your thoughts on what parts are most interesting or important would be great. * Campaign time frame: October - Dec 31st * Goal: Number of subscribers (how many do we want our goal to be? 500?) * Perks: LWN subscription!, tshirt - we could do a new tshirt with LWN on it too * Target: technical users (not GNOME developers) - 95% of our current subscribers give money because they can't contribute code * Slogan? * I think it would also be good to give people a way to track the people the refer (through word of mouth or their blog or whatever) and give out some sort of recognition or prize to people that recruit the most people. To do: * Find a way to track referrals. * Develop slogan/ad campaigns. * Design ads (Need specs for LWN ads.) * Modify the ruler (subscribers instead of $s) * Design new tshirt if we want a new one. * Design swag for people who referred the most people. * Place ruler on gnome.org and Planet GNOME. * Place ads on Google Adwords, LWN, blogs. * Send an email to all existing subscribers offering them an LWN subscription. * Add a yearly subscription option (This is especially important for those that live in places with really high Paypal fees.) Thoughts? Ideas? Would you be willing to help? Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Doodle Meeting! Re: New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN!
I thought afterward rgar nighr have been the case. I have no problem hanging out for the next one tonight. Keep the appt if tjhats what most people had planned on. Bryen Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org Sender: marketing-list-boun...@gnome.org Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:25:46 To: GNOME Marketing Listmarketing-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Doodle Meeting! Re: New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN! We will reschedule the meeting. Tuesday 3am UTC is actually *Monday* 9pm in my time zone. I assume others also had this problem as Joey and Bryen were the only ones that showed up. Thanks to Joey and Bryen for hanging in there! I'll send another Doodle invite shortly. Stormy On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: We will meet Tuesday at 3am UTC. I realize this is not a good time for anyone in Europe but it worked the best for the people that filled out the poll. See you there! (IRC: irc.gnome.org, #marketing) Stormy On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I think a good way to kick this off would be with an IRC meeting to discuss some of the details. If you are interested, please indicate what times would work well for you: http://www.doodle.com/gadqfyrte69adi6a (Note that there are *3* days so please scroll all the way to the right and fill in all the times.) Best, Stormy On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Hi GNOME Marketing team, LWN and the GNOME Foundation have partnered to support the GNOME project! Every Friend of GNOME monthly subscriber will receive a subscription to LWN.net as part of their subscription. (For all subscribers that give $10+/month.) So it's time for a new Friends of GNOME campaign! This one is to show how great our community is - by focusing on our supporters instead of the dollars. In order to take advantage of our agreement with LWN, I'd love to see us do something big for a subscriber campaign. Here are some initial thoughts I have. We'll need everyone's help to make it happen, so your thoughts on what parts are most interesting or important would be great. * Campaign time frame: October - Dec 31st * Goal: Number of subscribers (how many do we want our goal to be? 500?) * Perks: LWN subscription!, tshirt - we could do a new tshirt with LWN on it too * Target: technical users (not GNOME developers) - 95% of our current subscribers give money because they can't contribute code * Slogan? * I think it would also be good to give people a way to track the people the refer (through word of mouth or their blog or whatever) and give out some sort of recognition or prize to people that recruit the most people. To do: * Find a way to track referrals. * Develop slogan/ad campaigns. * Design ads (Need specs for LWN ads.) * Modify the ruler (subscribers instead of $s) * Design new tshirt if we want a new one. * Design swag for people who referred the most people. * Place ruler on gnome.org and Planet GNOME. * Place ads on Google Adwords, LWN, blogs. * Send an email to all existing subscribers offering them an LWN subscription. * Add a yearly subscription option (This is especially important for those that live in places with really high Paypal fees.) Thoughts? Ideas? Would you be willing to help? Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Doodle Meeting! Re: New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN!
Joey can't make it and I think after being one of the few to try to attend at the right time we should keep his schedule in mind! Stormy On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:33 AM, susero...@bryen.com wrote: I thought afterward rgar nighr have been the case. I have no problem hanging out for the next one tonight. Keep the appt if tjhats what most people had planned on. Bryen Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org Sender: marketing-list-boun...@gnome.org Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:25:46 To: GNOME Marketing Listmarketing-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Doodle Meeting! Re: New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN! We will reschedule the meeting. Tuesday 3am UTC is actually *Monday* 9pm in my time zone. I assume others also had this problem as Joey and Bryen were the only ones that showed up. Thanks to Joey and Bryen for hanging in there! I'll send another Doodle invite shortly. Stormy On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: We will meet Tuesday at 3am UTC. I realize this is not a good time for anyone in Europe but it worked the best for the people that filled out the poll. See you there! (IRC: irc.gnome.org, #marketing) Stormy On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I think a good way to kick this off would be with an IRC meeting to discuss some of the details. If you are interested, please indicate what times would work well for you: http://www.doodle.com/gadqfyrte69adi6a (Note that there are *3* days so please scroll all the way to the right and fill in all the times.) Best, Stormy On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Hi GNOME Marketing team, LWN and the GNOME Foundation have partnered to support the GNOME project! Every Friend of GNOME monthly subscriber will receive a subscription to LWN.net as part of their subscription. (For all subscribers that give $10+/month.) So it's time for a new Friends of GNOME campaign! This one is to show how great our community is - by focusing on our supporters instead of the dollars. In order to take advantage of our agreement with LWN, I'd love to see us do something big for a subscriber campaign. Here are some initial thoughts I have. We'll need everyone's help to make it happen, so your thoughts on what parts are most interesting or important would be great. * Campaign time frame: October - Dec 31st * Goal: Number of subscribers (how many do we want our goal to be? 500?) * Perks: LWN subscription!, tshirt - we could do a new tshirt with LWN on it too * Target: technical users (not GNOME developers) - 95% of our current subscribers give money because they can't contribute code * Slogan? * I think it would also be good to give people a way to track the people the refer (through word of mouth or their blog or whatever) and give out some sort of recognition or prize to people that recruit the most people. To do: * Find a way to track referrals. * Develop slogan/ad campaigns. * Design ads (Need specs for LWN ads.) * Modify the ruler (subscribers instead of $s) * Design new tshirt if we want a new one. * Design swag for people who referred the most people. * Place ruler on gnome.org and Planet GNOME. * Place ads on Google Adwords, LWN, blogs. * Send an email to all existing subscribers offering them an LWN subscription. * Add a yearly subscription option (This is especially important for those that live in places with really high Paypal fees.) Thoughts? Ideas? Would you be willing to help? Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
IRC meeting for New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN
We will meet on IRC at 3:00 UTC Wednesday, Oct 20th. For those of you that are time zone challenged like I am, this is TUESDAY in many time zones, in particular it's 9pm Tuesday the 19th in MST. Please join us! irc.gnome.org/#marketing Oct 20, 3:00 UTC / Oct 19, 20:00 PST Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: IRC meeting for New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 14:52 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: We will meet on IRC at 3:00 UTC Wednesday, Oct 20th. For those of you that are time zone challenged like I am, this is TUESDAY in many time zones, in particular it's 9pm Tuesday the 19th in MST. Please join us! irc.gnome.org/#marketing Oct 20, 3:00 UTC / Oct 19, 20:00 PST Stormy Hi, irc.gnome.org/#marketing This local time around the world for Wednesday, 20 October 2010, 03:00:00 UTC time http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=20month=10year=2010hour=3min=0sec=0p1=0 I hope this helps, -- Juanjo -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Doodle Meeting! Re: New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN!
I've never been able to read doodle's site so I will wait to see which date gets selected and would very much like to participate in the discussion if it fits my schedule. By the way folks, I believe we ve raised $850 for Accessibility last week! Bryen Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org Sender: marketing-list-boun...@gnome.org Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 15:38:26 To: GNOME Marketing Listmarketing-list@gnome.org Subject: Doodle Meeting! Re: New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN! -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Doodle Meeting! Re: New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN!
Will be there! Although its 5AM in The Netherlands, i don't mind yet another nightly meeting ;) Joey On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: We will meet Tuesday at 3am UTC. I realize this is not a good time for anyone in Europe but it worked the best for the people that filled out the poll. See you there! (IRC: irc.gnome.org, #marketing) Stormy On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I think a good way to kick this off would be with an IRC meeting to discuss some of the details. If you are interested, please indicate what times would work well for you: http://www.doodle.com/gadqfyrte69adi6a (Note that there are *3* days so please scroll all the way to the right and fill in all the times.) Best, Stormy On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Hi GNOME Marketing team, LWN and the GNOME Foundation have partnered to support the GNOME project! Every Friend of GNOME monthly subscriber will receive a subscription to LWN.net as part of their subscription. (For all subscribers that give $10+/month.) So it's time for a new Friends of GNOME campaign! This one is to show how great our community is - by focusing on our supporters instead of the dollars. In order to take advantage of our agreement with LWN, I'd love to see us do something big for a subscriber campaign. Here are some initial thoughts I have. We'll need everyone's help to make it happen, so your thoughts on what parts are most interesting or important would be great. * Campaign time frame: October - Dec 31st * Goal: Number of subscribers (how many do we want our goal to be? 500?) * Perks: LWN subscription!, tshirt - we could do a new tshirt with LWN on it too * Target: technical users (not GNOME developers) - 95% of our current subscribers give money because they can't contribute code * Slogan? * I think it would also be good to give people a way to track the people the refer (through word of mouth or their blog or whatever) and give out some sort of recognition or prize to people that recruit the most people. To do: * Find a way to track referrals. * Develop slogan/ad campaigns. * Design ads (Need specs for LWN ads.) * Modify the ruler (subscribers instead of $s) * Design new tshirt if we want a new one. * Design swag for people who referred the most people. * Place ruler on gnome.org and Planet GNOME. * Place ads on Google Adwords, LWN, blogs. * Send an email to all existing subscribers offering them an LWN subscription. * Add a yearly subscription option (This is especially important for those that live in places with really high Paypal fees.) Thoughts? Ideas? Would you be willing to help? Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Alias. Morton Black -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Doodle Meeting! Re: New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN!
Works well for me in Greece as well at 6 am keeping my day free. Bryen Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Joey Ferwerda joeyferw...@gmail.com Sender: marketing-list-boun...@gnome.org Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 22:02:53 To: Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org Cc: GNOME Marketing Listmarketing-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Doodle Meeting! Re: New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN! -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN!
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Jason Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:36, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: To do: * Find a way to track referrals. * Develop slogan/ad campaigns. * Send an email to all existing subscribers offering them an LWN subscription. Thoughts? Ideas? Would you be willing to help? My only thought is that this is a wonderful opportunity and I would be willing to help with the above three items. If no one else says anything in the next few days, I will open sysadmin tracking tickets in Bugzilla for #1 and #3, above. Jason, that'd be great! As for #2, hopefully we can have an IRC meeting arranged via Doodle for that. I am setting up a Doodle meeting now. Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN!
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:36, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: To do: * Find a way to track referrals. * Develop slogan/ad campaigns. * Send an email to all existing subscribers offering them an LWN subscription. Thoughts? Ideas? Would you be willing to help? My only thought is that this is a wonderful opportunity and I would be willing to help with the above three items. If no one else says anything in the next few days, I will open sysadmin tracking tickets in Bugzilla for #1 and #3, above. As for #2, hopefully we can have an IRC meeting arranged via Doodle for that. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN!
Hi Stormy, Let me know if you need help on setting up the ruler. I can quickly set it up with new data and text. --lucasr 2010/9/22 Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org: Hi GNOME Marketing team, LWN and the GNOME Foundation have partnered to support the GNOME project! Every Friend of GNOME monthly subscriber will receive a subscription to LWN.net as part of their subscription. (For all subscribers that give $10+/month.) So it's time for a new Friends of GNOME campaign! This one is to show how great our community is - by focusing on our supporters instead of the dollars. In order to take advantage of our agreement with LWN, I'd love to see us do something big for a subscriber campaign. Here are some initial thoughts I have. We'll need everyone's help to make it happen, so your thoughts on what parts are most interesting or important would be great. * Campaign time frame: October - Dec 31st * Goal: Number of subscribers (how many do we want our goal to be? 500?) * Perks: LWN subscription!, tshirt - we could do a new tshirt with LWN on it too * Target: technical users (not GNOME developers) - 95% of our current subscribers give money because they can't contribute code * Slogan? * I think it would also be good to give people a way to track the people the refer (through word of mouth or their blog or whatever) and give out some sort of recognition or prize to people that recruit the most people. To do: * Find a way to track referrals. * Develop slogan/ad campaigns. * Design ads (Need specs for LWN ads.) * Modify the ruler (subscribers instead of $s) * Design new tshirt if we want a new one. * Design swag for people who referred the most people. * Place ruler on gnome.org and Planet GNOME. * Place ads on Google Adwords, LWN, blogs. * Send an email to all existing subscribers offering them an LWN subscription. * Add a yearly subscription option (This is especially important for those that live in places with really high Paypal fees.) Thoughts? Ideas? Would you be willing to help? Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
New Friends of GNOME campaign with LWN!
Hi GNOME Marketing team, LWN and the GNOME Foundation have partnered to support the GNOME project! Every Friend of GNOME monthly subscriber will receive a subscription to LWN.net as part of their subscription. (For all subscribers that give $10+/month.) So it's time for a new Friends of GNOME campaign! This one is to show how great our community is - by focusing on our supporters instead of the dollars. In order to take advantage of our agreement with LWN, I'd love to see us do something big for a subscriber campaign. Here are some initial thoughts I have. We'll need everyone's help to make it happen, so your thoughts on what parts are most interesting or important would be great. * Campaign time frame: October - Dec 31st * Goal: Number of subscribers (how many do we want our goal to be? 500?) * Perks: LWN subscription!, tshirt - we could do a new tshirt with LWN on it too * Target: technical users (not GNOME developers) - 95% of our current subscribers give money because they can't contribute code * Slogan? * I think it would also be good to give people a way to track the people the refer (through word of mouth or their blog or whatever) and give out some sort of recognition or prize to people that recruit the most people. To do: * Find a way to track referrals. * Develop slogan/ad campaigns. * Design ads (Need specs for LWN ads.) * Modify the ruler (subscribers instead of $s) * Design new tshirt if we want a new one. * Design swag for people who referred the most people. * Place ruler on gnome.org and Planet GNOME. * Place ads on Google Adwords, LWN, blogs. * Send an email to all existing subscribers offering them an LWN subscription. * Add a yearly subscription option (This is especially important for those that live in places with really high Paypal fees.) Thoughts? Ideas? Would you be willing to help? Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Spanish poster for the Friends of GNOME campaign
2009/7/13 Licio Fonseca liciofons...@gnome.org: Hi Alberto, Do you have a english version of this poster? Sure, sorry, I sent the email by the end of the talk and the slogan lacks some explanation indeed. Basically it says Put one foot in GNOME. Let me elaborate a bit: At least in the spanish/hispanic culture, associating the concept of friendship and any money transaction is not very well understood, so we tried to figure out a way to express that this was a way to contribute back to GNOME and be somewhat part of the community. At the same time we didn't wanted to keep Friends of GNOME as the campaign name, so we discussed that what we needed was a catchy sentence that would contain the concept of community. So after a few attempts we came up with the slogan. The rest of the text is a direct translation from the original posters. By the way, eventhough the attendance was not as high as I expected, I found the workshop a success, and a few Industrial Design students asked me for my email and expressed their willingness to collaborate in the future (let's see if they actually do it). Maybe the only downside is that one of the students seemed to miss what the whole thing was about, and got a bit annoyed by the fact that I was asking people to contribute for fry, and to ask for money none the less! (someone told me that offline, I tried my best clarifying that GNOME was a community of volunteers, and that contributing is a great way to build a profile/cv, but it seemed I encourage to everyone in the marketing list to give a similar workshop in their closest design school and make a similar presentation. These are[0][1] slides I used, they probably need rebranding (I was at GUADEC on behalf of Codethink so I had to use my employer's template), feel free to make any modifications or comments. [0] http://www.gnome.org/~aruiz/GNOME.art.contribs.odp [1] http://www.gnome.org/~aruiz/GNOME.art.contribs.pdf On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Alberto Ruizar...@gnome.org wrote: Hello marketing list, greetings from the art contribution workshop on GUADEC-ES, we just created a localized poster for the Friends of GNOME campaign, I hope you like it. -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Licio Fonseca Jabber: li...@jabber.org | I Seek You (Icq): 271062447 http://blog.licio.eti.br (pt_BR) http://weblog.licio.eti.br (en) Timothy Leary - Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/timothy_leary.html -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Spanish poster for the Friends of GNOME campaign
Hi Alberto, Do you have a english version of this poster? On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Alberto Ruizar...@gnome.org wrote: Hello marketing list, greetings from the art contribution workshop on GUADEC-ES, we just created a localized poster for the Friends of GNOME campaign, I hope you like it. -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Licio Fonseca Jabber: li...@jabber.org | I Seek You (Icq): 271062447 http://blog.licio.eti.br (pt_BR) http://weblog.licio.eti.br (en) Timothy Leary - Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/timothy_leary.html -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Spanish poster for the Friends of GNOME campaign
Thanks! Very nice work. Can you make sure it gets circulated among GUADEC-ES attendees and other Spanish speaking GNOME groups? Thanks! Stormy On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: Hello marketing list, greetings from the art contribution workshop on GUADEC-ES, we just created a localized poster for the Friends of GNOME campaign, I hope you like it. -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
