Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).
Hi there, Has any advance been made on this issue? Organizing the stores in a merchandise page sounds nice, maybe in http://www.gnome.org/community/, right below the Show your support section (which should be updated I guess, the hackerthreads link is not working for me). Breaking them down by region as well, i.e. because US customers will easily get scared of shipping costs from Spain. Regards, Ismael On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.comwrote: I do think we want to avoid creating a confusing clutter of options, but I do not think that is a real concern at this point considering the small number of merchants who have arrangements to sell GNOME branded merchandise. This could become more of a concern if the number of merchants grows significantly, but it does not seem a serious issue at the moment to me. I am not sure if it makes sense to promote merchants on the GNOME front page, but I think we should promote all merchants somewhere on the GNOME website. Perhaps a website like http://store.gnome.org/ could contain a link to each merchant. Then we could link to this website from sensible places, like the FoG website and perhaps the GNOME front-door. Maybe we could do this in a way that doesn't give any one user too many options by breaking it down by region. (Too many options often means people buy none.) Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).
Hi there, We are FreeWear.org, we've reached an agreement with the GNOME Foundation to sell GNOME T-shirts. You can check them at: http://www.freewear.org/?org=GNOMEFoundation In order to boost sales and therefore donations to the GNOME Foundation, we have asked for a link to our website on the GNOME website (http://gnome.org), and we got redirected here to discuss the issue. In a nutshell: with all other organizations we've reached an agreement in which we donate them a fixed amount of money per T-shirt and we get in exchange a link in their website, either in the front page, in the news feed or in the merchandise page, to our online catalog for that organization. It's our way to ensure that Gimp, Vim, KDE, Cherokee, BSD or Python lovers, among others, can find their merchandise, and help their respective organizations. Would it be possible to get such a link at http://www.gnome.org? Regards, Ismael -- Mensaje reenviado -- De: Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.com Fecha: 4 de febrero de 2011 17:04 Asunto: Re: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01). Para: Ramón Villaverde r.villave...@freewear.org Cc: board-l...@gnome.org Ramón: We attached the Donations report for January 2011. Thanks. No sales yet I see. Could be possible a link to FreeWear.org in gnome.org http://gnome.org? I honestly believe that this would improve the sales, and consequently the donations. Typically the GNOME Marketing team makes decisions about how to update the GNOME website. Could you start a discussion about this on the GNOME marketing list? http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list If so, that would likely be the fastest way to work with the GNOME community to improve this. Brian -- www.freewear.org Open Source T-shirts r.villave...@freewear.org 00 34 986 420 794 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).
Hi, Ismael Barros² wrote: In order to boost sales and therefore donations to the GNOME Foundation, we have asked for a link to our website on the GNOME website (http://gnome.org), and we got redirected here to discuss the issue. Paul, how is the GNOME Store on Zazzle coming along? I'm all for supporting merchandising agreements we make, and the FreeWear guys are cool, but I don't want to divert revenue away from us, if we have a better option. If the Zazzle store is operational, we should leverage that. And we should have some GNOME 3 goodies for sale for the release date! Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).
--- El mar, 15/2/11, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org escribió: De: Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org Asunto: Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01). Para: GNOME Marketing List marketing-list@gnome.org Fecha: martes, 15 de febrero, 2011 10:08 Hi, Ismael Barros² wrote: In order to boost sales and therefore donations to the GNOME Foundation, we have asked for a link to our website on the GNOME website (http://gnome.org), and we got redirected here to discuss the issue. Paul, how is the GNOME Store on Zazzle coming along? I'm all for supporting merchandising agreements we make, and the FreeWear guys are cool, but I don't want to divert revenue away from us, if we have a better option. If the Zazzle store is operational, we should leverage that. And we should have some GNOME 3 goodies for sale for the release date! Hi ! The FreeWear is a store that traditionally worked with us, at least in Spain (I think they produce the t-shirts for the GUADEC held in Spain and other local events). I think we should have a policy for the marketing agreements. Though I don't really know if we already have one. If this agreedment was approved, I guess we are ok giving non-exclusive permissions and we are ok with competing offers. I think there are other open questions like if all the merchandising material on sale should be approved or not by us. BTW, It seems that the Spanish Zazzle store, zazzle.es, doesn't have a page for all the GNOME products, and some of them are called el GNOMO products (it seems they are translated automatically) http://www.zazzle.es/logotipo_horizontal_del_gnomo_camiseta-235423661381377863 Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).
On 02/15/2011 05:42 PM, Juanjo Marín wrote: Hi ! The FreeWear is a store that traditionally worked with us, at least in Spain (I think they produce the t-shirts for the GUADEC held in Spain and other local events). In this case, shall we consider to link them at GNOME Hispano page - http://www.es.gnome.org/ it's like KDE, they link them at http://www.kdehispano.es/ but I don't find any freewear link at kde.org yet I think we should have a policy for the marketing agreements. Though I don't really know if we already have one. If this agreedment was approved, I guess we are ok giving non-exclusive permissions and we are ok with competing offers. I think there are other open questions like if all the merchandising material on sale should be approved or not by us. BTW, It seems that the Spanish Zazzle store, zazzle.es, doesn't have a page for all the GNOME products, and some of them are called el GNOMO products (it seems they are translated automatically) http://www.zazzle.es/logotipo_horizontal_del_gnomo_camiseta-235423661381377863 Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Paul, how is the GNOME Store on Zazzle coming along? I'm all for supporting merchandising agreements we make, and the FreeWear guys are cool, but I don't want to divert revenue away from us, if we have a better option. If the Zazzle store is operational, we should leverage that. And we should have some GNOME 3 goodies for sale for the release date! The Zazzle store has been operational for almost a year now. Zazzle does a good job of selling in multiple currencies, but some users prefer other, sometimes local, options. The Board works with other companies who also pay us a royalty and we don't have issues with multiple stores, as long as they sign our trademark agreements and we have a workable business relationship, which we do with Freewear. Getting some GNOME 3 stuff up is a good idea, the t-shirt contest should be announced in the next day or two, and those will be added. I'll ping Andreas as well. Paul -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).
Hi, Paul Cutler wrote: The Zazzle store has been operational for almost a year now. It seems like we're quite low-key about promoting it. How about including a link to the GNOME Love mug a link to the store on the front page? The text paragraph fades into the background a bit among the news other text. Zazzle does a good job of selling in multiple currencies, but some users prefer other, sometimes local, options. The Board works with other companies who also pay us a royalty and we don't have issues with multiple stores, as long as they sign our trademark agreements and we have a workable business relationship, which we do with Freewear. Sure - my only point is that it doesn't really make sense to promote more than one merchandising store on our front page. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).
On 02/15/2011 11:06 PM, Dave Neary wrote: we don't have issues with multiple stores, as long as they sign our trademark agreements and we have a workable business relationship, which we do with Freewear. I had a look at freewear and didn't feel 'seduced' by their store. They definitely bring the proximity to people from Spain if I got that straight but the store concept kinds of dilutes the GNOME brand, and definitely doesn't differentiate or show under a great light the brand compared to other FOSS projects. In fact reading the email from Ismael I was even a bit disheartened and wondered what was the value Freewear was bringing at first (though I got it later as mentioned above). Is brand dilution and positioning something we should take into consideration? Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).
Dave: Zazzle does a good job of selling in multiple currencies, but some users prefer other, sometimes local, options. The Board works with other companies who also pay us a royalty and we don't have issues with multiple stores, as long as they sign our trademark agreements and we have a workable business relationship, which we do with Freewear. Sure - my only point is that it doesn't really make sense to promote more than one merchandising store on our front page. I disagree. I think that it would be good to promote all organizations that have agreements with the GNOME Foundation to sell GNOME branded merchandise. I would prefer to provide people with more choice. I do think we want to avoid creating a confusing clutter of options, but I do not think that is a real concern at this point considering the small number of merchants who have arrangements to sell GNOME branded merchandise. This could become more of a concern if the number of merchants grows significantly, but it does not seem a serious issue at the moment to me. I am not sure if it makes sense to promote merchants on the GNOME front page, but I think we should promote all merchants somewhere on the GNOME website. Perhaps a website like http://store.gnome.org/ could contain a link to each merchant. Then we could link to this website from sensible places, like the FoG website and perhaps the GNOME front-door. Brian -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: FreeWear.org - Royalty Report (2011/01).
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.comwrote: I do think we want to avoid creating a confusing clutter of options, but I do not think that is a real concern at this point considering the small number of merchants who have arrangements to sell GNOME branded merchandise. This could become more of a concern if the number of merchants grows significantly, but it does not seem a serious issue at the moment to me. I am not sure if it makes sense to promote merchants on the GNOME front page, but I think we should promote all merchants somewhere on the GNOME website. Perhaps a website like http://store.gnome.org/ could contain a link to each merchant. Then we could link to this website from sensible places, like the FoG website and perhaps the GNOME front-door. Maybe we could do this in a way that doesn't give any one user too many options by breaking it down by region. (Too many options often means people buy none.) Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
