Fwd: Tanath9 sent you a message: Comments disabled?

2011-04-28 Thread Stormy Peters
I didn't set comments to disabled but I find I don't feel strongly one way
or the other.

Thoughts? If we want to turn them on, any one willing to help with
moderating?

Stormy

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Tanath9 http://www.youtube.com/user/Tanath9 has sent you a message:
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What the hell is wrong with you? You're part of the open source community.
Comments can provide valuable feedback, which I hoped to provide... only to
find you disable comments for your videos. Disgraceful.

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Re: Fwd: Tanath9 sent you a message: Comments disabled?

2011-04-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 05:10:08AM -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
 I didn't set comments to disabled but I find I don't feel strongly one way
 or the other.
 
 Thoughts? If we want to turn them on, any one willing to help with
 moderating?


 What the hell is wrong with you? You're part of the open source community.
 Comments can provide valuable feedback, which I hoped to provide... only to
 find you disable comments for your videos. Disgraceful.

Based on above, suggest keeping it disabled.

More seriously:
1) comments are not meant to provide feedback
   I guess you'll get too many negative comments and censor accusations
2) this person does not abide by the Code of Conduct
3) we should ensure all our communication channels follow the Code of
Conduct
4) assume moderating for CoC is a lot of work

People should have the impression that GNOME is friendly and open. I do
not like rants, negativism, long useless discussions, etc. So moderation
has to be done multiple times/day. Once a week is not enough.

Though best to request feedback where the users are; IMO there are too
many people with too much time on their hands. Further, I doubt those
people reflect our users.
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Re: Fwd: Tanath9 sent you a message: Comments disabled?

2011-04-28 Thread Allan Day
Stormy Peters wrote:
 I didn't set comments to disabled

No, I did. :)

 but I find I don't feel strongly one way or the other.
 
 Thoughts?

The YouTube channel wasn't meant as a delivery platform. It was
primarily intended as a hosting solution, with the videos then being
embedded in our websites.

I originally disabled the comments (Bryen helped, I think) because we
were getting comments and we didn't have the capacity to effectively
moderate. And I didn't want negative comments sitting below our videos.

The problem with turning comments on is that we need to moderate
reliably and consistently. It's an ongoing commitment.

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Re: Fwd: Tanath9 sent you a message: Comments disabled?

2011-04-28 Thread Juanjo Marin
El jue, 28-04-2011 a las 13:21 +0200, Olav Vitters escribió:
 On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 05:10:08AM -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
 More seriously:
 1) comments are not meant to provide feedback
I guess you'll get too many negative comments and censor accusations
 2) this person does not abide by the Code of Conduct
 3) we should ensure all our communication channels follow the Code of
 Conduct
 4) assume moderating for CoC is a lot of work

I totally agree with Olav. By experience I don't think is worth to spend
efforts moderating. For me the number of I like and people who marked
as favorite is good enough feedback.

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Re: Fwd: Tanath9 sent you a message: Comments disabled?

2011-04-28 Thread Bharat Kapoor
I don't really care about comments being on or off - personally I'd keep it
off too. Too much wasted time moderating them. As Olav said there are too
many people with free time and I would not listen to someone's comment who
does not have the courtesy to write 2 decent sentences. I don't see a reason
for this kind of rant, and it is no way of writing to someone.

My 2 cents,

BK

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Stormy Peters wrote:
  I didn't set comments to disabled

 No, I did. :)

  but I find I don't feel strongly one way or the other.
 
  Thoughts?

 The YouTube channel wasn't meant as a delivery platform. It was
 primarily intended as a hosting solution, with the videos then being
 embedded in our websites.

 I originally disabled the comments (Bryen helped, I think) because we
 were getting comments and we didn't have the capacity to effectively
 moderate. And I didn't want negative comments sitting below our videos.

 The problem with turning comments on is that we need to moderate
 reliably and consistently. It's an ongoing commitment.

 Allan
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Re: Fwd: Tanath9 sent you a message: Comments disabled?

2011-04-28 Thread Bryen Yunashko
We turned it off after getting spammers and strollers almost immediately
after posting the first video. A testament to the popularity of GNOME :+)

In any case moderation on a site like YouTube is a time suck and not worth
the time of all of us who volunteer and actually have a life. (Yes, I've
heard rumors that some of you have lives.)

Bryen
On Apr 28, 2011 6:51 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Stormy Peters wrote:
 I didn't set comments to disabled

 No, I did. :)

 but I find I don't feel strongly one way or the other.

 Thoughts?

 The YouTube channel wasn't meant as a delivery platform. It was
 primarily intended as a hosting solution, with the videos then being
 embedded in our websites.

 I originally disabled the comments (Bryen helped, I think) because we
 were getting comments and we didn't have the capacity to effectively
 moderate. And I didn't want negative comments sitting below our videos.

 The problem with turning comments on is that we need to moderate
 reliably and consistently. It's an ongoing commitment.

 Allan
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