Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop
Sanne: We've had contact briefly about usabillity. I agree with you that this is something that would be of interest for any government, and I want to have a talk about this in the pre-conference. Can you help me getting the GNOME people who are knowledgable about this to prepare something for the pre-conference? That would be really great. I've also had contact with your Colleague Willie Walker (who pointed me to Javier Martinez) about this. I'm hoping I can get someone from ONCE to talk about this as well. Although I do promote accessibility, I am probably not well enough informed to help put together much for such a formal presentation. I would think that having this discussion on the gnome-accessibility-l...@gnome.org mailing list would be a better place to seek such help than on the GNOME marketing-list. Peter Korn (peter.k...@oracle.com) has done some significant work with the AEGIS project in Europe, so he has experience dealing with a11y and European governments. But I know that Willie has already given you that pointer. Brian -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop
Hi Brian, We've had contact briefly about usabillity. I agree with you that this is something that would be of interest for any government, and I want to have a talk about this in the pre-conference. Can you help me getting the GNOME people who are knowledgable about this to prepare something for the pre-conference? That would be really great. I've also had contact with your Colleague Willie Walker (who pointed me to Javier Martinez) about this. I'm hoping I can get someone from ONCE to talk about this as well. best, Sanne dutch team GUADEC 2010 Brian Cameron schreef: Sanne: One thing that I notice is that your document makes no mention of accessibility. Many governments are interested in supporting workers, citizens and students who are disabled. GNOME provides, at no cost, a wide range of accessibility support for users who are blind, have vision problems, and have mobility impairments. No other free desktop yet provides the support that GNOME provides at no cost. Note that proprietary solutions for the disabled can be very expensive. To make a computer using a proprietary operating system support the same degree of accessibility support that is provided at no charge with GNOME, it is often necessary to spend thousands of dollars purchasing additional software needed to provide this sort of functionality. I would think this would be of interest to any government. Brian I've made a post before where I addressed the Dutch' government plans for OSS in their desktop. As Guadec will be in holland this year, the organisation is aiming to have one or a view sessions about OSS in public intstitutions. The government just released a consultation asking for feedback about their plans. The document and interaction with government could provide several opportunities: -It could give vital information about preconditions to target government markets. -Gnome could give an official reaction to them (before the end of march) or later in a technical magazine or webzine to praise the merits of the plans and criticize weaknesses, and showing themselves as a serious contender. -Could provide an opportunity for exposure as a lot of magazines might be interested in Gnome's thoughts about this. -resulting in Buzz, exposure, increased opportunities for Guadec fundraising, etc. etc. You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it. http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf regards, Sanne -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop
Hi Brian, We've had contact briefly about usabillity. I agree with you that this is something that would be of interest for any government, and I want to have a talk about this in the pre-conference. Can you help me getting the GNOME people who are knowledgable about this to prepare something for the pre-conference? That would be really great. I've also had contact with your Colleague Willie Walker (who pointed me to Javier Martinez) about this. I'm hoping I can get someone from ONCE to talk about this as well. best, Sanne dutch team GUADEC 2010 (resend this mail to different addresses from Brian and Willie). Brian Cameron schreef: Sanne: One thing that I notice is that your document makes no mention of accessibility. Many governments are interested in supporting workers, citizens and students who are disabled. GNOME provides, at no cost, a wide range of accessibility support for users who are blind, have vision problems, and have mobility impairments. No other free desktop yet provides the support that GNOME provides at no cost. Note that proprietary solutions for the disabled can be very expensive. To make a computer using a proprietary operating system support the same degree of accessibility support that is provided at no charge with GNOME, it is often necessary to spend thousands of dollars purchasing additional software needed to provide this sort of functionality. I would think this would be of interest to any government. Brian I've made a post before where I addressed the Dutch' government plans for OSS in their desktop. As Guadec will be in holland this year, the organisation is aiming to have one or a view sessions about OSS in public intstitutions. The government just released a consultation asking for feedback about their plans. The document and interaction with government could provide several opportunities: -It could give vital information about preconditions to target government markets. -Gnome could give an official reaction to them (before the end of march) or later in a technical magazine or webzine to praise the merits of the plans and criticize weaknesses, and showing themselves as a serious contender. -Could provide an opportunity for exposure as a lot of magazines might be interested in Gnome's thoughts about this. -resulting in Buzz, exposure, increased opportunities for Guadec fundraising, etc. etc. You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it. http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf regards, Sanne -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop
Yes, great. When I first joined this list, I also saw post from you and others about this. I think the fact that Gnome's active in this area can really do good in publicity as well. (Appart from the fact that it's supergreat in itself of course :-) ) Brian Cameron schreef: Sanne: One thing that I notice is that your document makes no mention of accessibility. Many governments are interested in supporting workers, citizens and students who are disabled. GNOME provides, at no cost, a wide range of accessibility support for users who are blind, have vision problems, and have mobility impairments. No other free desktop yet provides the support that GNOME provides at no cost. Note that proprietary solutions for the disabled can be very expensive. To make a computer using a proprietary operating system support the same degree of accessibility support that is provided at no charge with GNOME, it is often necessary to spend thousands of dollars purchasing additional software needed to provide this sort of functionality. I would think this would be of interest to any government. Brian I've made a post before where I addressed the Dutch' government plans for OSS in their desktop. As Guadec will be in holland this year, the organisation is aiming to have one or a view sessions about OSS in public intstitutions. The government just released a consultation asking for feedback about their plans. The document and interaction with government could provide several opportunities: -It could give vital information about preconditions to target government markets. -Gnome could give an official reaction to them (before the end of march) or later in a technical magazine or webzine to praise the merits of the plans and criticize weaknesses, and showing themselves as a serious contender. -Could provide an opportunity for exposure as a lot of magazines might be interested in Gnome's thoughts about this. -resulting in Buzz, exposure, increased opportunities for Guadec fundraising, etc. etc. You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it. http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf regards, Sanne -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop
Hi, I've made a post before where I addressed the Dutch' government plans for OSS in their desktop. As Guadec will be in holland this year, the organisation is aiming to have one or a view sessions about OSS in public intstitutions. The government just released a consultation asking for feedback about their plans. The document and interaction with government could provide several opportunities: -It could give vital information about preconditions to target government markets. -Gnome could give an official reaction to them (before the end of march) or later in a technical magazine or webzine to praise the merits of the plans and criticize weaknesses, and showing themselves as a serious contender. -Could provide an opportunity for exposure as a lot of magazines might be interested in Gnome's thoughts about this. -resulting in Buzz, exposure, increased opportunities for Guadec fundraising, etc. etc. You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it. http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf regards, Sanne -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Sanne te Meerman sa...@opensourceadvies.nl wrote: You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it. http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf Yes, please do have it translated! :-) Best, Joe -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 15:35 +0100, Sanne te Meerman wrote: Hi, I've made a post before where I addressed the Dutch' government plans for OSS in their desktop. As Guadec will be in holland this year, the organisation is aiming to have one or a view sessions about OSS in public intstitutions. The government just released a consultation asking for feedback about their plans. The document and interaction with government could provide several opportunities: -It could give vital information about preconditions to target government markets. -Gnome could give an official reaction to them (before the end of march) or later in a technical magazine or webzine to praise the merits of the plans and criticize weaknesses, and showing themselves as a serious contender. -Could provide an opportunity for exposure as a lot of magazines might be interested in Gnome's thoughts about this. -resulting in Buzz, exposure, increased opportunities for Guadec fundraising, etc. etc. You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it. http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf regards, Sanne Hi Sanne, My dutch skills aren't that good. But I'm leaving some information you might consider precious for now and later if you need for something else. Please check on http://www.kompass.nl (or www.kompass.com) for the companies where you want to check for sponsorship. You have their contacts, phone/fax, address, etc. I would advice you to make a list of companies that can be involved, this can cover, mobile operators (forget the MVNO's), banking institutions, technology institutions and hardware manufacturers. I would point some companies for you: - Philips Royal Electronics - Logitech (It's Logitech payed personel that develops their webcam drivers for GNU/Linux, though they are not officially supported, but shows an effort). I would recommend you to contact their Head Office in Rommanel Sur-Morges / Switzerland. - Vodafone - T-Mobile - ABN/AMRO - ING Bank - BenQ - Motorola (based in Enschede, I lived 200m away from their installations, next to FC Twente Stadium :)). - MSI - Plextor (Belgium based) I would recon most mobile operators will be willing to participate, when you contact them, also make sure that you try to recruit speakers for something we can consider relevant. Remember that when GSM4 pops out, mobile operators will have something to say, as most of them will deliever 100mbit through GSM. This will cover Netbook/Laptop/tablet, etc... Remember to focus to them that the potential of GSM Networks is a very important thing for mobile communications and at some point they will enable it allowing GNOME and GNU/Linux to use it's max potential. Please don't ignore this companies because they usually place lots of money in things like this. And in Vodafone's case, you can consider a later Friends of GNOME supporter. My two foughts... About the Government, it's nice to show a reaction from the Government, but thats the field of the bureaucrats. I honestly believe you will get more support from the private organizations than from the Government itself. Though contacting the city hall from the city where it's going to be is important. NM signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop
I'll have my men working on this, on the double!! :-) Ok, I didn't phrase that very well. What I meant was, if there's enough enthousiasm, I'm sure a volunteer can be found for this :-) I'll put my two cents in tomorrow, to sketch the outline. best, Sanne Btw, I made a 'tiny' mistake, as an official response to the document should be given before the 1st of march, not before the end of march. Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier schreef: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Sanne te Meerman sa...@opensourceadvies.nl wrote: You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it. http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf Yes, please do have it translated! :-) Best, Joe -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop
Hi Sanne, I think that's a great idea. If at all possible, we should reply back with comment within the comment period. Then I think there are many technical publications/magazines that we could work with to publish a public response. Marketing Team, who should work on the response? Stormy On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Sanne te Meerman sa...@opensourceadvies.nl wrote: Hi, I've made a post before where I addressed the Dutch' government plans for OSS in their desktop. As Guadec will be in holland this year, the organisation is aiming to have one or a view sessions about OSS in public intstitutions. The government just released a consultation asking for feedback about their plans. The document and interaction with government could provide several opportunities: -It could give vital information about preconditions to target government markets. -Gnome could give an official reaction to them (before the end of march) or later in a technical magazine or webzine to praise the merits of the plans and criticize weaknesses, and showing themselves as a serious contender. -Could provide an opportunity for exposure as a lot of magazines might be interested in Gnome's thoughts about this. -resulting in Buzz, exposure, increased opportunities for Guadec fundraising, etc. etc. You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it. http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf regards, Sanne -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop
Stormy Peters schreef: Hi Sanne, I think that's a great idea. If at all possible, we should reply back with comment within the comment period. Ok, bear in mind though that it's the 1st of march, not the end of March. Sorry, my mistake. Then I think there are many technical publications/magazines that we could work with to publish a public response. Marketing Team, who should work on the response? I can translate interesting parts tomorrow, and give my thoughts on what I personally would think is important in a response. But especially about the technical merits of i.e. Kerberos, LDAP that they're planning to use, I don't have anything wise to say (or anything to say at all). I'm also not very experienced with these type of press releases so anyone with experience would be very welcome to help out. best, Sanne Stormy On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Sanne te Meerman sa...@opensourceadvies.nl mailto:sa...@opensourceadvies.nl wrote: Hi, I've made a post before where I addressed the Dutch' government plans for OSS in their desktop. As Guadec will be in holland this year, the organisation is aiming to have one or a view sessions about OSS in public intstitutions. The government just released a consultation asking for feedback about their plans. The document and interaction with government could provide several opportunities: -It could give vital information about preconditions to target government markets. -Gnome could give an official reaction to them (before the end of march) or later in a technical magazine or webzine to praise the merits of the plans and criticize weaknesses, and showing themselves as a serious contender. -Could provide an opportunity for exposure as a lot of magazines might be interested in Gnome's thoughts about this. -resulting in Buzz, exposure, increased opportunities for Guadec fundraising, etc. etc. You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it. http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf regards, Sanne -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Sanne te Meerman sa...@opensourceadvies.nl wrote: Marketing Team, who should work on the response? I can translate interesting parts tomorrow, and give my thoughts on what I personally would think is important in a response. But especially about the technical merits of i.e. Kerberos, LDAP that they're planning to use, I don't have anything wise to say (or anything to say at all). I'm also not very experienced with these type of press releases so anyone with experience would be very welcome to help out. I don't think I'm the best person either. Perhaps we should reach out to a different team? The release team? The desktop mailing list? Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Guadec and Dutch government plans for OSS and desktop
Sanne: One thing that I notice is that your document makes no mention of accessibility. Many governments are interested in supporting workers, citizens and students who are disabled. GNOME provides, at no cost, a wide range of accessibility support for users who are blind, have vision problems, and have mobility impairments. No other free desktop yet provides the support that GNOME provides at no cost. Note that proprietary solutions for the disabled can be very expensive. To make a computer using a proprietary operating system support the same degree of accessibility support that is provided at no charge with GNOME, it is often necessary to spend thousands of dollars purchasing additional software needed to provide this sort of functionality. I would think this would be of interest to any government. Brian I've made a post before where I addressed the Dutch' government plans for OSS in their desktop. As Guadec will be in holland this year, the organisation is aiming to have one or a view sessions about OSS in public intstitutions. The government just released a consultation asking for feedback about their plans. The document and interaction with government could provide several opportunities: -It could give vital information about preconditions to target government markets. -Gnome could give an official reaction to them (before the end of march) or later in a technical magazine or webzine to praise the merits of the plans and criticize weaknesses, and showing themselves as a serious contender. -Could provide an opportunity for exposure as a lot of magazines might be interested in Gnome's thoughts about this. -resulting in Buzz, exposure, increased opportunities for Guadec fundraising, etc. etc. You decide, here it is. It's in dutch. If you think this could be interesting, let me know, so we might have someone translate it. http://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/download/OpenDWR/WebHome/RealisatielijnOpenDWRv0.93februari.pdf regards, Sanne -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
