Re: Questions about FoG and campaigns

2011-01-27 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:
> And it misses a more tangible goal than just the number of subscriptors IMO.
> 
> Something like "2 new hackfests this year" or whatever. Obviously the
> money won't be used exclusively on that, but it helps understand why
> we want money, besides "because it's money".

Absolutely agree.
http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2008/11/20/things-to-learn-for-gnome/

When you donate €200 to MSF, they have a list of things they can do with
it (x vaccines, y meals, z survival blankets).

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: Questions about FoG and campaigns

2011-01-26 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
And it misses a more tangible goal than just the number of subscriptors IMO.

Something like "2 new hackfests this year" or whatever. Obviously the
money won't be used exclusively on that, but it helps understand why
we want money, besides "because it's money".

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Stormy Peters  wrote:
> We also need to promote the campaigns more.
>
> People need to blog about it, maybe we can ask some journalists to help us
> by writing about it, we can use our Google Adsense account, etc.
>
> Other than here on the marketing list and on the header of gnome.org, I
> haven't seen it mentioned any where ...
>
> Stormy
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Og Maciel  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Jason D. Clinton 
>> wrote:
>> > I guess the question would be: do the campaigns switch like clock-work
>> > or do we do it manually depending on how close we are to the goal when
>> > the time for the next campaign period arrives?
>>
>> I'd like to have campaigns scheduled in advance so that we can better
>> plan things out.
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Re: Questions about FoG and campaigns

2011-01-26 Thread Stormy Peters
We also need to promote the campaigns more.

People need to blog about it, maybe we can ask some journalists to help us
by writing about it, we can use our Google Adsense account, etc.

Other than here on the marketing list and on the header of gnome.org, I
haven't seen it mentioned any where ...

Stormy

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Og Maciel  wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Jason D. Clinton 
> wrote:
> > I guess the question would be: do the campaigns switch like clock-work
> > or do we do it manually depending on how close we are to the goal when
> > the time for the next campaign period arrives?
>
> I'd like to have campaigns scheduled in advance so that we can better
> plan things out.
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Re: Questions about FoG and campaigns

2011-01-26 Thread Paul Cutler
I agree - I also think they should be for a specific time period.
They lose potency and impact if they're around too long.  Luis Villa
sent me this link - it's a long read, but well worth it on how
successful fundraising on Kickstarter worked.  When you look at the
timing of when people give in relation to how long the campaign is, is
very interesting.

http://craigmod.com/journal/kickstartup/

Paul

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Og Maciel  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Jason D. Clinton  
> wrote:
>> I guess the question would be: do the campaigns switch like clock-work
>> or do we do it manually depending on how close we are to the goal when
>> the time for the next campaign period arrives?
>
> I'd like to have campaigns scheduled in advance so that we can better
> plan things out.
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Re: Questions about FoG and campaigns

2011-01-26 Thread Og Maciel
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Jason D. Clinton  
wrote:
> I guess the question would be: do the campaigns switch like clock-work
> or do we do it manually depending on how close we are to the goal when
> the time for the next campaign period arrives?

I'd like to have campaigns scheduled in advance so that we can better
plan things out.
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Re: Questions about FoG and campaigns

2011-01-26 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:08, Og Maciel  wrote:
> Since we last spoke at last year's Boston Summit I felt that people
> didn't make their priority to deliver what they had promised. Now,
> obviously being the end of the year I understand that people were
> already spread thin but our end of year campaign suffered when not all
> the moving parts came together on time. So going forward, I want to
> schedule campaigns a few months in advance so that we can all have
> enough time to work on our tasks. Would 6-month campaigns give enough
> time to deliver a well oiled campaign? I believe that there are
> already plans to do a campaign for buying hardware (sysadmin) and
> another one for a11y. We could also do one for the Women's Outreach
> program, so... should we extend the current campaign until June and
> then do back-to-back-to-back campaigns for them? That would give us 5
> months to work on them and make sure everything is ready.
>
> What do you guys think?

Yes, we didn't achieve our goals (me included) but I think there's
some great go-energy behind Andreas' redesign of the site[1]. I have
already volunteered to modify it to support the FoG videos[2]. I would
be willing to add to my volunteer responsibilities finishing what
Andreas has started (with his approval). It looks like some tweaks and
details on the site need to be ironed out and I could additionally
create, in advance, the suggested variations for each of the
campaigns.

I guess the question would be: do the campaigns switch like clock-work
or do we do it manually depending on how close we are to the goal when
the time for the next campaign period arrives?

[1] http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-of-gnome-2.0/
[2] http://people.gnome.org/~jclinton/FoG/
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Re: Questions about FoG and campaigns

2011-01-26 Thread Og Maciel
To re-inforce and make it a bit more clear what my intentions were
with my email:

I need the input from the marketing team in order to create a roadmap
of activities and milestones for the FoG campaigns this year. The way
I see it, I'd like to have not one but a few thematic campaigns spread
across the year in order to support the many different projects of
GNOME. For instance, I'd like to have a campaign to support the
accessibility crew right off the bat, following it with another
campaign to support the docs guys.

A possible solution for supporting these different projects may be to
ask the Board to provide earmarking for them but I feel that this
would be too cumbersome to handle for a variety of reasons. Obviously,
if the Board decides to allow earmarking then we don't need campaigns
but I feel that people would donate more willing-fully if there is a
very specific reason behind it.

Since we last spoke at last year's Boston Summit I felt that people
didn't make their priority to deliver what they had promised. Now,
obviously being the end of the year I understand that people were
already spread thin but our end of year campaign suffered when not all
the moving parts came together on time. So going forward, I want to
schedule campaigns a few months in advance so that we can all have
enough time to work on our tasks. Would 6-month campaigns give enough
time to deliver a well oiled campaign? I believe that there are
already plans to do a campaign for buying hardware (sysadmin) and
another one for a11y. We could also do one for the Women's Outreach
program, so... should we extend the current campaign until June and
then do back-to-back-to-back campaigns for them? That would give us 5
months to work on them and make sure everything is ready.

What do you guys think?
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Re: Questions about FoG and campaigns

2011-01-26 Thread Paul Cutler
Hi Og,

Thanks for starting the thread.

A little background - at the two marketing hackfests last year we
spend a lot of time talking about fundraising. One of the goals behind
two campaigns a year was to tie them to GNOME releases (when we're
getting a lot of press) and we didn't want to be out there a lot
asking for donations.  We were hoping to have targeted campaigns with
specific goals that would help people feel like they were a part of
something.  We originally planned on one fundraising campaign to raise
funds for all of GNOME and one campaign a year with a theme, such as
the sysadmin hiring last year.

What do others think?  These ideas aren't set in stone, but the key is
to have the marketing team participate so we're getting the word out
via the website, blog posts, microblogging, etc.  (Which is the big
concern I have with the banner being up right now - we don't have any
support for it going on).

I look forward to hearing others thoughts.

Paul

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Og Maciel  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I wanted to ask about your opinions on how we currently coordinate our
> campaigns. Paul and I have discussed this a bit on irc and I believe
> that we need to discuss about how we want to handle it going forward.
>
> From what I understood, being the marketing newbie, we currently have
> 2 recurring annual campaigns: one for the end of the year which
> usually ends at the end of the Xmas/New Year festivities and another
> one with a more specific goal, such as paying for hardware, hackfests,
> etc. Due to some delays in getting all the web site components in
> place for the "end of year" campaign of 2010, there was no clear start
> and end delimiters set and that campaign is still active though nobody
> really spelled out that it was a "end of the year" campaign. In other
> words, whoever goes to our FoG page won't know that we're still doing
> a "end of year" campaign.
>
> I wanted to discuss about how many campaigns do we want to do this
> year and if we want to turn the specific campaign into something that
> can vary (i.e. A11Y campaigns, Hardware campaigns, etc)? Also, what do
> we do with the current campaign? Do we want to end it? The goal was to
> get 400 new subscribers but we've only managed to get 30.\
>
> Sooo, going forward:
>
> * Do we want to change the current number of campaigns per year?
> * If so, do we vary the theme for the second campaign?
> * what are the dates we should be holding them?
> * Should we kill off the current one?
>
> Thanks in advance,
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Questions about FoG and campaigns

2011-01-26 Thread Og Maciel
Hi guys,

I wanted to ask about your opinions on how we currently coordinate our
campaigns. Paul and I have discussed this a bit on irc and I believe
that we need to discuss about how we want to handle it going forward.

>From what I understood, being the marketing newbie, we currently have
2 recurring annual campaigns: one for the end of the year which
usually ends at the end of the Xmas/New Year festivities and another
one with a more specific goal, such as paying for hardware, hackfests,
etc. Due to some delays in getting all the web site components in
place for the "end of year" campaign of 2010, there was no clear start
and end delimiters set and that campaign is still active though nobody
really spelled out that it was a "end of the year" campaign. In other
words, whoever goes to our FoG page won't know that we're still doing
a "end of year" campaign.

I wanted to discuss about how many campaigns do we want to do this
year and if we want to turn the specific campaign into something that
can vary (i.e. A11Y campaigns, Hardware campaigns, etc)? Also, what do
we do with the current campaign? Do we want to end it? The goal was to
get 400 new subscribers but we've only managed to get 30.\

Sooo, going forward:

* Do we want to change the current number of campaigns per year?
* If so, do we vary the theme for the second campaign?
* what are the dates we should be holding them?
* Should we kill off the current one?

Thanks in advance,
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