Re: GNOME in the press - 2012-12-05
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 09:01:57AM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: LinuxInsider.com: Return of the King: GNOME 2 Is Making Its Way Back: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Return-of-the-King-GNOME-2-Is-Making-Its-Way-Back-76753.html WTF. An article consisting of opinions of people on slashdot and sites such as Linux Rant as well as random people on Google+? This aside from getting the basics wrong. It was not about getting GNOME 2 back. -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME in the press - 2012-12-05
- Mensaje original - De: Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl Para: marketing-list@gnome.org CC: Enviado: Miércoles 5 de diciembre de 2012 11:05 Asunto: Re: GNOME in the press - 2012-12-05 On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 09:01:57AM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: LinuxInsider.com: Return of the King: GNOME 2 Is Making Its Way Back: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Return-of-the-King-GNOME-2-Is-Making-Its-Way-Back-76753.html WTF. An article consisting of opinions of people on slashdot and sites such as Linux Rant as well as random people on Google+? This aside from getting the basics wrong. It was not about getting GNOME 2 back. LOTR and Journalism 2.0 :-P Just to note that the best way to react is to focus in the what we want to communicate and not spend time with counter-arguments. Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME in the press - 2012-12-05
I have to say I that I largely agree with datamations point that its marketing that GNOME needs most now. GNOME needs us to be communicating what we're doing, when we're doing it and why - not just to ourselves, but to the wider public as well. The irreparable harm quote in LinuxInsider comes from someone I've actually met by the way. I met Kevin O'Brien at Ohio Linux Fest and am scheduled to go meet up with him and his LUG in Ann Arbor, MI in March and do a small presentation on GNOME (though I may ask to postpone that till April when both the weather will (hopefully) be better and 3.8 will be out). From my (admittedly brief) conversations with him at OLF he seemed like a nice guy, though like many he didn't seem to know much about GNOME 3 - though he was interested enough in GNOME to invite me up there. Emily On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:20 AM, Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.es wrote: - Mensaje original - De: Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl Para: marketing-list@gnome.org CC: Enviado: Miércoles 5 de diciembre de 2012 11:05 Asunto: Re: GNOME in the press - 2012-12-05 On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 09:01:57AM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: LinuxInsider.com: Return of the King: GNOME 2 Is Making Its Way Back: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Return-of-the-King-GNOME-2-Is-Making-Its-Way-Back-76753.html WTF. An article consisting of opinions of people on slashdot and sites such as Linux Rant as well as random people on Google+? This aside from getting the basics wrong. It was not about getting GNOME 2 back. LOTR and Journalism 2.0 :-P Just to note that the best way to react is to focus in the what we want to communicate and not spend time with counter-arguments. Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME in the press - 2012-12-05
On 12/05/2012 11:05 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 09:01:57AM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: LinuxInsider.com: Return of the King: GNOME 2 Is Making Its Way Back: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Return-of-the-King-GNOME-2-Is-Making-Its-Way-Back-76753.html WTF. An article consisting of opinions of people on slashdot and sites such as Linux Rant as well as random people on Google+? This aside from getting the basics wrong. It was not about getting GNOME 2 back. I just copy paste links from Google Alerts which are not about garden gnomes (actually, garden gnome articles outnumber GNOME articles by about 2 to 1). Perhaps we should blame the journalist for not doing his research - he'll know better next time. Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME in the press - 2012-12-05
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 02:56:05PM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: On 12/05/2012 11:05 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 09:01:57AM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: LinuxInsider.com: Return of the King: GNOME 2 Is Making Its Way Back: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Return-of-the-King-GNOME-2-Is-Making-Its-Way-Back-76753.html WTF. An article consisting of opinions of people on slashdot and sites such as Linux Rant as well as random people on Google+? This aside from getting the basics wrong. It was not about getting GNOME 2 back. I just copy paste links from Google Alerts which are not about garden gnomes (actually, garden gnome articles outnumber GNOME articles by about 2 to 1). It is nice to keep track! Perhaps we should blame the journalist for not doing his research - he'll know better next time. s/his/her/ Just really surprised about the lack of research. I think we could do way better with announcing decisions, but if the few decisions which we announce are reported like this, then it is pretty logical if people get upset. -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME in the press - 2012-12-05
Hi all!I suppose that people who will say that yesterday was better there will be always a galore, everywhere.I personally believe that we don't have to regret about this or about a bad article, but to use the attention a journalist has regarding GNOME to ask her/him, in proper way, to write something correct. A wrong article depends from a lack of informations, and very often journalists made a weird job. But this marketing team could help them giving infos :)my two cent :) Flavia Da: marketing-list-boun...@gnome.org A: Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org Cc: marketing-list@gnome.org Data: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 15:23:55 +0100 Oggetto: Re: GNOME in the press - 2012-12-05 On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 02:56:05PM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: On 12/05/2012 11:05 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 09:01:57AM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: LinuxInsider.com: Return of the King: GNOME 2 Is Making Its Way Back: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Return-of-the-King-GNOME-2-Is-Making-Its-Way-Back-76753.html WTF. An article consisting of opinions of people on slashdot and sites such as Linux Rant as well as random people on Google+? This aside from getting the basics wrong. It was not about getting GNOME 2 back. I just copy paste links from Google Alerts which are not about garden gnomes (actually, garden gnome articles outnumber GNOME articles by about 2 to 1). It is nice to keep track! Perhaps we should blame the journalist for not doing his research - he'll know better next time. s/his/her/ Just really surprised about the lack of research. I think we could do way better with announcing decisions, but if the few decisions which we announce are reported like this, then it is pretty logical if people get upset. -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME in the press - 2012-12-05
On Wed, December 5, 2012 10:08 am, fla...@weisghizzi.it wrote: Hi all!I suppose that people who will say that yesterday was better there will be always a galore, everywhere.I personally believe that we don't have to regret about this or about a bad article, but to use the attention a journalist has regarding GNOME to ask her/him, in proper way, to write something correct. A wrong article depends from a lack of informations, and very often journalists made a weird job. But this marketing team could help them giving infos :)my two cent :) I've been trying to contact the authors as these articles have been coming out to take advantage of the attention. Does anyone have Katherine's email address? I've used social networking to get in touch in the meantime. On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 02:56:05PM +0100, Dave Neary wrote: I just copy paste links from Google Alerts which are not about garden gnomes (actually, garden gnome articles outnumber GNOME articles by about 2 to 1). I get the same news alert - don't forget about the band, Mr. Gnome! karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
