Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign

2011-12-08 Thread Juanjo Marín






 De: Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org
Para: Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org 
CC: marketing-list@gnome.org
Enviado: martes 6 de diciembre de 2011 18:50
Asunto: Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign
 

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:



Do we have some examples of GNOME users whose lives were made measurably 
better because of the a11y work we've done? Show-cases work wonders.


I agree with Dave that a quote or a case study would make it more real. People 
are much more willing to donate to save a particular kid (Joey) who is sick 
than they are to donate to an organization that helps vaccinate 1000s of kids. 

Also, I think we should end with a call to action. What do we want them to do? 
ex: 


Donate $25 now and help us reach another person.

It sounds good :-)


By now I only have one Robert Cole case

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-accessibility-list/2011-November/msg00025.html

and I'm contacting another person


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Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign

2011-12-08 Thread Juanjo Marín




- Mensaje original -
 De: Michael Hall mhall...@ubuntu.com
 Para: marketing-list@gnome.org; ubuntu-accessibil...@lists.ubuntu.com
 CC: 
 Enviado: jueves 8 de diciembre de 2011 1:13
 Asunto: Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign
 
 Forwarding this on to the Ubuntu accessibility team, and they might have
 some good real-life stories to share as well.
 
 Michael Hall
 mhall...@ubuntu.com
 

Thank you Michael. Any help counts ;-)

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Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign

2011-12-07 Thread Michael Hall
Forwarding this on to the Ubuntu accessibility team, and they might have
some good real-life stories to share as well.

Michael Hall
mhall...@ubuntu.com


On 12/06/2011 12:50 PM, Stormy Peters wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org
 mailto:dne...@gnome.org wrote:
 
 
 
 Do we have some examples of GNOME users whose lives were made
 measurably better because of the a11y work we've done? Show-cases
 work wonders.
 
 
 I agree with Dave that a quote or a case study would make it more real.
 People are much more willing to donate to save a particular kid (Joey)
 who is sick than they are to donate to an organization that helps
 vaccinate 1000s of kids.
 
 Also, I think we should end with a call to action. What do we want them
 to do? ex: Donate $25 now and help us reach another person.
 
 Stormy
 
 
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Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign

2011-11-28 Thread Dave Neary

Hi Karen,


On 11/28/2011 08:04 PM, Karen Sandler wrote:

jjmarin and I are working on this text to promote the FoG campaign we hope
to launch next week. How can we improve it? Also, do you like Make 2012
the year of accessibility for GNOME as a short tagline?


I hate to say it, but I'm not sure if Accessibility as an abstract 
concept will sell.


Do we have some examples of GNOME users whose lives were made measurably 
better because of the a11y work we've done? Show-cases work wonders.



With your help we can start tackling those goals. Let's kickstart 2012 as
the Year of Accessibility at GNOME and make the most usable desktop
environment the most accessible desktop environment!


Do we have any specific improvements (and the reasons why they're 
important - or the people for whom they're important) to point to?


Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign

2011-11-28 Thread Viktor Machek
Hi all.
I apologize for entering into the discussion, but in my opinion should
be presented
as a Gnome user friendly desktop. Version 3 has made a great leap forward, it
is very technologically advanced desktop. Now we should think how to show
people that it is usable. So I think it would be preferable (except slogan
User friendly desktop) directly represent users and show their work with
Gnome. Examples are the best.

In summary:
- User friendly desktop for all - just a slogan to rule them all :-)
- Short video clips and examples of users work with gnome
- Why and for what I use Gnome? On what computer / laptop / monitor using
Gnome direct answers and articles users

This should be part of a campaign that could be directly targeted in two
directions: to show benefits of regular Gnome users and also invite them to
participate to improve the user experience when using the Gnome desktop.

What should be the main objective of this campaign? New users of Gnome or
greater involvement in the preparation of new friends next release of Gnome?

Best regards

Viktor Machek - fan of Gnome :-)
(Czech rep.)

ps. ...and sorry for my English..

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 20:22, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:

 Hi Karen,



 On 11/28/2011 08:04 PM, Karen Sandler wrote:

 jjmarin and I are working on this text to promote the FoG campaign we hope
 to launch next week. How can we improve it? Also, do you like Make 2012
 the year of accessibility for GNOME as a short tagline?


 I hate to say it, but I'm not sure if Accessibility as an abstract concept
 will sell.

 Do we have some examples of GNOME users whose lives were made measurably
 better because of the a11y work we've done? Show-cases work wonders.


  With your help we can start tackling those goals. Let's kickstart 2012 as
 the Year of Accessibility at GNOME and make the most usable desktop
 environment the most accessible desktop environment!


 Do we have any specific improvements (and the reasons why they're
 important - or the people for whom they're important) to point to?

 Cheers,
 Dave.

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Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign

2011-11-28 Thread Juanjo Marín
- Mensaje original -

 De: Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org
 Para: marketing-list@gnome.org

 On 11/28/2011 08:04 PM, Karen Sandler wrote:
  jjmarin and I are working on this text to promote the FoG campaign we hope
  to launch next week. How can we improve it? Also, do you like Make 
 2012
  the year of accessibility for GNOME as a short tagline?
 
 I hate to say it, but I'm not sure if Accessibility as an abstract concept 
 will sell.
 
 Do we have some examples of GNOME users whose lives were made measurably 
 better 
 because of the a11y work we've done? Show-cases work wonders.
 
  With your help we can start tackling those goals. Let's kickstart 2012 
 as
  the Year of Accessibility at GNOME and make the most usable desktop
  environment the most accessible desktop environment!
 
 Do we have any specific improvements (and the reasons why they're important 
 - or the people for whom they're important) to point to?
 


Hi,

I think is worth to crossposting the following message from the marketing list 
to
the accessibility list to get some feedback from users about how useful the 
accessibilty features of GNOME are in their lives and why it is important
for them to keep working on this.

Basically, there are a lot of accessibility tasks to be done in several areas. 
There
are features to be implemented, for example, the gnome-shell Magnifier track 
focus 
and caret, and more obscure issues in the platform, like peformance 
Improvements 
which are important for getting a snapier user experience, just to name a 
couple of
them. There are many tasks in the accessibilty roadmap [1] haven't been done yet
because a lack of resources.

Cheers,


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[1] Two year 2010-2012 accessibilty 
roadmap. https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/Roadmap

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Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign

2011-11-28 Thread Juanjo Marín
___
 De: Viktor Machek mac...@gmail.com
Para: marketing-list@gnome.org 
Enviado: lunes 28 de noviembre de 2011 21:01
Asunto: Re: draft for Friends of GNOME campaign
 

Hi all.
I apologize for entering into the discussion, but in my 
opinion should be presented as a Gnome user friendly desktop. Version 3 has 
made a great leap forward, it is very technologically advanced desktop. Now we 
should think how to show people that it is usable. So I think it would be 
preferable (except slogan User friendly desktop) directly represent users 
and show their work with Gnome. Examples are the best.

In summary:
- User friendly desktop for all - just a slogan to rule them all :-)
- Short video clips and examples of users work with gnome
- Why and for what I use Gnome? On what computer / laptop / 
monitor usingGnome direct answers and articles users

This should be part of a campaign that could be directly targeted in two 
directions: to show benefits of regular Gnome users and 
also invite them to participate to improve the user experience when using 
the Gnome desktop.

What should be the main objective of this campaign? New users of Gnome 
or greater involvement in the preparation of new friends next release of Gnome?


Best regards


Viktor Machek - fan of Gnome :-)
(Czech rep.)

Viktor,


I am a little bit confused with your message. GNOME is always moving in the 
direction of having a user friendly desktop. The main purporse of this campaign 
is that  we want to extend the new features to everyone, including users of all 
ages and abilities becasue we don't want to left people behind. So I think, 
under my understanding, that your message is not related to the subject of this 
thread.

After said that, the gnome 3 page [1] has the kind of videos and information I 
think you want to find. Jason Clinton made these fantastic videos for GNOME 
3.0, but unfortunately AFAIK nobody has volunteered for doing more videos since 
them. The new feaures are presented basically in the release notes [2]


[1] http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/
[2] http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.2/

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