Re: Video conferencing application
Dear all, Here is an update on the video conferencing and streaming tool: justin.tv is selected for video streaming purpose, we will be using it during our GNOME 3 parties in Hong Kong, Beijing and Taiwan. A howto can found at http://live.gnome.org/VideoStreaming/JustinTv (prepared by Max from Taiwan GNOME User Group) , feel free to modify and improve the page. I will encourage our registered parties to do similar video streaming so we can celebrate the release together. If you have other options of video streaming / conferencing tools, please make a how-to and let me know. We can definitely recommend more than one tool :) Thanks, Pockey On 12/16/2010 12:51 PM, Pockey Lam wrote: Dear all, Yeah, we would definitely use video conferencing (and / or broadcasting tool) to connect events from different venues around the world. What we have tested so far: Ekiga -- cannot even make one on one video chat on the same network, sip calls didn't work, and the only thing that we managed to get working is voice in the conference room. just wonder if anybody made Ekiga video chat work? what's the trick? Tested some online services on Firefox or Chromium, Linux: 1) dimdim.com -- new plugin (they say it's compulsory) doesn't work on Firefox Linux = for free / trial account. not able to make even one on one work 2) webhuddle.com -- only support voice and we cannot make it work 3) Yugma -- invite contact doesn't work on Linux We are also testing and sourcing a reliable video / sound broadcasting tool as well: bigbluebutton --- cannot detect my camera, I guess it's a flash issue... Pockey On 12/16/2010 03:04 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org mailto:pockey...@gnome.org wrote: Dear Dave, Diego, Joey, Sriam, Thank you for your help! I already gave all the suggestions to the Taiwan GUG members and asked them to do some testing. Will keep you posted of the result. Besides, they will definitely let us know if they need further help! Thanks, Pockey, if you find something that works please do let us know as I'm sure that other would be interested in doing something similar. sri Thanks, Pockey On 12/15/2010 07:55 AM, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: El mar, 14-12-2010 a las 19:13 +0100, Joey Ferwerda escribió: What about just using Gtalk? Its not open source, but it is free software! I guess you meant voice/video over jabber, which is what gtalk uses and what Empathy can also do. Empathy can work fine for this I guess. But likely telepathy developers can suggest something else. Maybe even a hardcoded program only for this event. AFAIK there was work on multiuser video chat. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video conferencing application
Dear Valessio, Thanks a lot! I have forwarded your suggestion to the Taiwan GUG and they will try it out. If we cannot find a good video conferencing tool, we should definitely use video streaming instead. Cheers, Pockey On 12/23/2010 04:10 AM, Valessio S Brito wrote: Hi all, sorry my english... I'm participating in another thread looking for a solution to this. Among some proposals, like the OpenMeettings.de[1] [2] But like the idea of a friend aka 'Lucasa' (in CC): - Create a page that automatically generates thumbnails on HTML5, all videos sent to a Icecast for guests. Anyone can make a stream with VLC or Landell[3], sending an icecast which someone calls (provides access to data). With 'Landell' is very simple to stream your webcam, is something I believe very much in the future be a software for the Gnome web channels and provide access to streaming video. [1] http://openmeetings.de [2] code.google.com/p/openmeetings/ [3] http://br.gnome.org/Landell/EnSobreLandell Citando Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org: Dear all, Yeah, we would definitely use video conferencing (and / or broadcasting tool) to connect events from different venues around the world. What we have tested so far: Ekiga -- cannot even make one on one video chat on the same network, sip calls didn't work, and the only thing that we managed to get working is voice in the conference room. just wonder if anybody made Ekiga video chat work? what's the trick? Tested some online services on Firefox or Chromium, Linux: 1) dimdim.com -- new plugin (they say it's compulsory) doesn't work on Firefox Linux = for free / trial account. not able to make even one on one work 2) webhuddle.com -- only support voice and we cannot make it work 3) Yugma -- invite contact doesn't work on Linux We are also testing and sourcing a reliable video / sound broadcasting tool as well: bigbluebutton --- cannot detect my camera, I guess it's a flash issue... Pockey On 12/16/2010 03:04 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org mailto:pockey...@gnome.org wrote: Dear Dave, Diego, Joey, Sriam, Thank you for your help! I already gave all the suggestions to the Taiwan GUG members and asked them to do some testing. Will keep you posted of the result. Besides, they will definitely let us know if they need further help! Thanks, Pockey, if you find something that works please do let us know as I'm sure that other would be interested in doing something similar. sri Thanks, Pockey On 12/15/2010 07:55 AM, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: El mar, 14-12-2010 a las 19:13 +0100, Joey Ferwerda escribió: What about just using Gtalk? Its not open source, but it is free software! I guess you meant voice/video over jabber, which is what gtalk uses and what Empathy can also do. Empathy can work fine for this I guess. But likely telepathy developers can suggest something else. Maybe even a hardcoded program only for this event. AFAIK there was work on multiuser video chat. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video conferencing application
Hi all, sorry my english... I'm participating in another thread looking for a solution to this. Among some proposals, like the OpenMeettings.de[1] [2] But like the idea of a friend aka 'Lucasa' (in CC): - Create a page that automatically generates thumbnails on HTML5, all videos sent to a Icecast for guests. Anyone can make a stream with VLC or Landell[3], sending an icecast which someone calls (provides access to data). With 'Landell' is very simple to stream your webcam, is something I believe very much in the future be a software for the Gnome web channels and provide access to streaming video. [1] http://openmeetings.de [2] code.google.com/p/openmeetings/ [3] http://br.gnome.org/Landell/EnSobreLandell Citando Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org: Dear all, Yeah, we would definitely use video conferencing (and / or broadcasting tool) to connect events from different venues around the world. What we have tested so far: Ekiga -- cannot even make one on one video chat on the same network, sip calls didn't work, and the only thing that we managed to get working is voice in the conference room. just wonder if anybody made Ekiga video chat work? what's the trick? Tested some online services on Firefox or Chromium, Linux: 1) dimdim.com -- new plugin (they say it's compulsory) doesn't work on Firefox Linux = for free / trial account. not able to make even one on one work 2) webhuddle.com -- only support voice and we cannot make it work 3) Yugma -- invite contact doesn't work on Linux We are also testing and sourcing a reliable video / sound broadcasting tool as well: bigbluebutton --- cannot detect my camera, I guess it's a flash issue... Pockey On 12/16/2010 03:04 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org mailto:pockey...@gnome.org wrote: Dear Dave, Diego, Joey, Sriam, Thank you for your help! I already gave all the suggestions to the Taiwan GUG members and asked them to do some testing. Will keep you posted of the result. Besides, they will definitely let us know if they need further help! Thanks, Pockey, if you find something that works please do let us know as I'm sure that other would be interested in doing something similar. sri Thanks, Pockey On 12/15/2010 07:55 AM, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: El mar, 14-12-2010 a las 19:13 +0100, Joey Ferwerda escribió: What about just using Gtalk? Its not open source, but it is free software! I guess you meant voice/video over jabber, which is what gtalk uses and what Empathy can also do. Empathy can work fine for this I guess. But likely telepathy developers can suggest something else. Maybe even a hardcoded program only for this event. AFAIK there was work on multiuser video chat. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- ://ValessioBrito.info Comunicação e Tecnologia mobile: +55 71 VALESSIO -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video conferencing application
Dear Dave, Diego, Joey, Sriam, Thank you for your help! I already gave all the suggestions to the Taiwan GUG members and asked them to do some testing. Will keep you posted of the result. Besides, they will definitely let us know if they need further help! Thanks, Pockey On 12/15/2010 07:55 AM, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: El mar, 14-12-2010 a las 19:13 +0100, Joey Ferwerda escribió: What about just using Gtalk? Its not open source, but it is free software! I guess you meant voice/video over jabber, which is what gtalk uses and what Empathy can also do. Empathy can work fine for this I guess. But likely telepathy developers can suggest something else. Maybe even a hardcoded program only for this event. AFAIK there was work on multiuser video chat. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video conferencing application
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org wrote: Dear Dave, Diego, Joey, Sriam, Thank you for your help! I already gave all the suggestions to the Taiwan GUG members and asked them to do some testing. Will keep you posted of the result. Besides, they will definitely let us know if they need further help! Thanks, Pockey, if you find something that works please do let us know as I'm sure that other would be interested in doing something similar. sri Thanks, Pockey On 12/15/2010 07:55 AM, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: El mar, 14-12-2010 a las 19:13 +0100, Joey Ferwerda escribió: What about just using Gtalk? Its not open source, but it is free software! I guess you meant voice/video over jabber, which is what gtalk uses and what Empathy can also do. Empathy can work fine for this I guess. But likely telepathy developers can suggest something else. Maybe even a hardcoded program only for this event. AFAIK there was work on multiuser video chat. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video conferencing application
Dear all, Yeah, we would definitely use video conferencing (and / or broadcasting tool) to connect events from different venues around the world. What we have tested so far: Ekiga -- cannot even make one on one video chat on the same network, sip calls didn't work, and the only thing that we managed to get working is voice in the conference room. just wonder if anybody made Ekiga video chat work? what's the trick? Tested some online services on Firefox or Chromium, Linux: 1) dimdim.com -- new plugin (they say it's compulsory) doesn't work on Firefox Linux = for free / trial account. not able to make even one on one work 2) webhuddle.com -- only support voice and we cannot make it work 3) Yugma -- invite contact doesn't work on Linux We are also testing and sourcing a reliable video / sound broadcasting tool as well: bigbluebutton --- cannot detect my camera, I guess it's a flash issue... Pockey On 12/16/2010 03:04 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org mailto:pockey...@gnome.org wrote: Dear Dave, Diego, Joey, Sriam, Thank you for your help! I already gave all the suggestions to the Taiwan GUG members and asked them to do some testing. Will keep you posted of the result. Besides, they will definitely let us know if they need further help! Thanks, Pockey, if you find something that works please do let us know as I'm sure that other would be interested in doing something similar. sri Thanks, Pockey On 12/15/2010 07:55 AM, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: El mar, 14-12-2010 a las 19:13 +0100, Joey Ferwerda escribió: What about just using Gtalk? Its not open source, but it is free software! I guess you meant voice/video over jabber, which is what gtalk uses and what Empathy can also do. Empathy can work fine for this I guess. But likely telepathy developers can suggest something else. Maybe even a hardcoded program only for this event. AFAIK there was work on multiuser video chat. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video conferencing application
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org wrote: Dear all, Yeah, we would definitely use video conferencing (and / or broadcasting tool) to connect events from different venues around the world. What we have tested so far: Ekiga -- cannot even make one on one video chat on the same network, sip calls didn't work, and the only thing that we managed to get working is voice in the conference room. just wonder if anybody made Ekiga video chat work? what's the trick? I'm surprised Ekiga didn't work. Have you asked in #ekiga on IRC? Those guys are pretty good in helping. Gosh all this fail in video conferencing depresses me. I remember looking for such a solution for Linux Plumbers Conference. We had gotten a government official as a keynote (which ultimately fell through) and he would only do it via video conferencing. I knew then that our video conferencing fu is not very strong and that was a year ago as it was nearly impossible to find something that would work especially following the standard video conferencing protocols that the government was using. Meh. Talk to Zaheer, he might know as well. He's been doing some work with setting up Fluendo (although he no longer works for them). I'm not aware of anybody else doing anything with video conferencing. But it's a big hole in free desktops. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video conferencing application
On 12/16/2010 01:21 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Pockey Lam pockey...@gnome.org mailto:pockey...@gnome.org wrote: Dear all, Yeah, we would definitely use video conferencing (and / or broadcasting tool) to connect events from different venues around the world. What we have tested so far: Ekiga -- cannot even make one on one video chat on the same network, sip calls didn't work, and the only thing that we managed to get working is voice in the conference room. just wonder if anybody made Ekiga video chat work? what's the trick? I'm surprised Ekiga didn't work. Have you asked in #ekiga on IRC? Those guys are pretty good in helping. Gosh all this fail in video conferencing depresses me. I remember looking for such a solution for Linux Plumbers Conference. We had gotten a government official as a keynote (which ultimately fell through) and he would only do it via video conferencing. I knew then that our video conferencing fu is not very strong and that was a year ago as it was nearly impossible to find something that would work especially following the standard video conferencing protocols that the government was using. Meh. Talk to Zaheer, he might know as well. He's been doing some work with setting up Fluendo (although he no longer works for them). I'm not aware of anybody else doing anything with video conferencing. But it's a big hole in free desktops. sri Well it seems there is maybe a (discontinued) project called MPEG4IP http://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/ which explains how to built a sound/video streaming system. It's a bit more complicated but could work. I'll continue search in that direction and see what can easily be deployed. I guess a page listing all the available streams on that day would work very well too. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video conferencing application
Hi, Pockey Lam wrote: Communities are preparing for their GNOME 3.0 launch parties. Knowing that Taiwan GNOME User Group is going to host 3 events in different district, they are looking for Free software / application to do video conferencing among different venues. Any suggestion? Big Blue Button works for broadcast desktop sharing. If you want multi-way video chat, then I don't know of any (good) possibilities, proprietary or free. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video conferencing application
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Pockey Lam wrote: Communities are preparing for their GNOME 3.0 launch parties. Knowing that Taiwan GNOME User Group is going to host 3 events in different district, they are looking for Free software / application to do video conferencing among different venues. Any suggestion? Big Blue Button works for broadcast desktop sharing. If you want multi-way video chat, then I don't know of any (good) possibilities, proprietary or free. Why not Fluendo? That is more of a one way thing, but it might work. You'll have to ask a fluendo person regarding it. You could also talk to the Telepathy devs on whether they have something that is stable that might do that. sri Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video conferencing application
What about just using Gtalk? Its not open source, but it is free software! On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Pockey Lam wrote: Communities are preparing for their GNOME 3.0 launch parties. Knowing that Taiwan GNOME User Group is going to host 3 events in different district, they are looking for Free software / application to do video conferencing among different venues. Any suggestion? Big Blue Button works for broadcast desktop sharing. If you want multi-way video chat, then I don't know of any (good) possibilities, proprietary or free. Why not Fluendo? That is more of a one way thing, but it might work. You'll have to ask a fluendo person regarding it. You could also talk to the Telepathy devs on whether they have something that is stable that might do that. sri Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Alias. Morton Black -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Video conferencing application
El mar, 14-12-2010 a las 19:13 +0100, Joey Ferwerda escribió: What about just using Gtalk? Its not open source, but it is free software! I guess you meant voice/video over jabber, which is what gtalk uses and what Empathy can also do. Empathy can work fine for this I guess. But likely telepathy developers can suggest something else. Maybe even a hardcoded program only for this event. AFAIK there was work on multiuser video chat. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Video conferencing application
Dear all, Communities are preparing for their GNOME 3.0 launch parties. Knowing that Taiwan GNOME User Group is going to host 3 events in different district, they are looking for Free software / application to do video conferencing among different venues. Any suggestion? Pockey -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
