Re: [Marxism] Leonard Cohen: Democracy is Coming
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Good point. Totally skipped my mind. Gotta say though, I won't be giving away any of my Leonard Cohen albums any time soon. Greg On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Dennis Brasky dmozart1...@gmail.com wrote: Is this the same Leonard Cohen who ignored the international boycott against Israel and recently performed for the apartheid state? PEP - Progressive EXCEPT on Palestine! On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Greg McDonald gregm...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBVaqrqb3bkfeature=player_embedded#! Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Wolff and Resnick analysis of the current economic crisis
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Re: [Marxism] 'Diversity,’ imprisonment: 2 sides of same coin
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == There are those who see class as a complex identity, mediated by all sorts of things, a social reality understood only through critical and self-critical processing of information and interpretations. Then there is the tendency to define what is and isn't proletarian in a way that couches their self-perceptions in the most comfortable way. Conversely, what's discomforting becomes proletarian bracked with dismissifvequotes. The SWP--and it was far from alone in this--always mingled its acknowledgement of this reality with an underlying, self-serving dismissal of that reality as something other than its ideal of a proletarian party. What interests me about the Studer piece is that you get diametrically opposed assertions to those which he and the SWP would have made in the 1970s, but flowing from the same flakey approach . . . which is--and always was--proletarian after the fashion of the corporate Organizational Man--but frankly doesn't seem to me to have much to do with Marxism. We should look to a future because it can only offer us better. ML Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Fwd: [E of S] CORRECT ADDRESS to help 1968 Olympian Lee Evans
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:26 AM, edgeofsports edgeofspo...@gmail.comwrote: Folks: Please forward this email. The CORRECT address to help Lee Evans, 1968 Olympic record setter and political activist who was diagnosed with a rain tumor and no health care: Send funds right away to Rosemary Evans; 46096 Valeria Ave; Dos Palos 93620. An earlier address sent was incorrect. Here is a link that speaks even more of Lee adn his accomplishments http://www.athletesunitedforpeace.org/home.html In struggle and sports Dave Zirin *Edge of Sports* | Modifyhttps://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=9564227id_secret=9564227-c0216c42Your Subscription | Unsubscribe Nowhttps://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?member_id=9564227id_secret=9564227-f72af137post_id=20111225092609:BF80DB60-0C1C-11E1-8EB3-E8D6016F94D5 http://www.listbox.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Have a happy and merry December 25
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Good to know I'm not the only one here who celebrates Gravmas :) Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Have a happy and merry December 25
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[Marxism] David Harvey's Deutscher Prize Lecture
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[Marxism] Plenary Talk Abstracts of the Conference Critique, Democracy, and Philosophy in 21st Century Information Society (Uppsala, 2-4 May 2012)
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Critique, Democracy, and Philosophy in 21st Century Information Society Towards Critical Theories of Social Media The Fourth ICTs and Society-Conference Uppsala University, May 2nd-4th, 2012. The collected abstracts of the plenary talks are now available: http://www.icts-and-society.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/abstracts.pdf Opening Plenary Vincent Mosco (Queen’s University, Canada): Marx is Back, but Will Knowledge Workers of the World Unite? On the Critical Study of Labour, Media, and Communication Today Graham Murdock (Loughborough University, UK): The Digital Lives of Commodities: Consumption, Ideology and Exploitation Today Featuring plenary talks by Andrew Feenberg, Catherine McKercher, Charles Ess, Christian Christensen, Christian Fuchs, Gunilla Bradley, Mark Andrejevic, Nick Dyer-Witheford, Peter Dahlgren, Tobias Olsson, Trebor Scholz, Ursula Huws, Wolfgang Hofkirchner. Abstract submission: open until February, 2012 29 (deadline) ATTENTION: We recommend EARLY submission of abstracts way before the deadline because the presentation slots are limited and abstracts will be reviewed continuously starting in early January 2012. Once all presentation slots are filled, the submission process will be closed. Submission information: http://www.icts-and-society.net/events/uppsala2012/ http://www.icts-and-society.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/CallforAbstracts.pdf Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Wolff and Resnick analysis of the current economic crisis
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Dec 25, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Louis Proyect wrote: http://www.zcommunications.org/a-marxian-interpretation-of-the-economic-crisis-by-richard-d-wolff If Wolff had even an elementary understanding of Marxian economic analysis he would never have written this: From the early 1890s to the late 1970s, two key trends emerged in industry. In one, the real wage of workers in manufacturing rose by about 1.8 percent per year and, in the other, workers' productivity in manufacturing steadily rose at an even higher rate amounting to 2.3 percent per year. Roughly interpreting these two trends in terms of Marxian value theory, we conclude that the rate of surplus value in the United States— the growth of real output per industrial worker relative to the real remuneration per industrial worker—rose steadily for almost ninety years. But the Marxian rate of surplus value, as Marx devotes whole chapters to its demonstration, has nothing to do with the gross output/wages ratio. It is the ratio between the total of property-derived incomes and the total income of the class of productive laborers (s/v). Wolff makes the very same error for which Marx castigates Smith: he resolves the value of output not into c+v+s but into v+s alone. Thus he treats the national income (which, as Marx emphasizes, is produced only by productive labor) as providing nothing at all to everyone in the category of what Marx termed unproductive but necessary labor--and not even anything at all to replace the value of fixed capital used up in producing the income. This wouldn't matter if there was no rising trend in those two categories (which together make up Marx's c), but that is very much not the case. The rising organic composition of capital, fundamental to Marx's analysis of capitalist development, forces a rise in the share of product represented by capital consumption. But far more spectacular is the increase in the proportion of labor--*unproductive* labor--engaged in retail sales, office work, government administration and enforcement, merchandizing, etc. etc. This ignorance is why Wolff ends with the howler that the rate of surplus value in the US rose steadily for almost ninety years. The fact is that during the heart of that 1890's to 1970's period, 1900 to 1960, which was the subject of my 1963 dissertation on the fall in the rate of profit, the rate of surplus-value as calculated in labor- value terms (Table VII-1) fell (not steadily but steadily fluctuating downward) from about 66% in 1900 to about 25% in 1960! Wouldn't it be nice if professors who claim to be authorities on Marx would actually study Marx! Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Have a happy and merry December 25
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Newton was born on 4 January of the Gregorian calendar. The teachings of Jesus have unfortunately been hijacked by the reactionaries, but they are in fact perfectly compatible with communism. A great example of this is the liberation theology. Remember *Thomas Müntzer.* On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Mark Lause markala...@gmail.com wrote: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqiiCOFR0Y8 Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/comraderastko%40gmail.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Have a happy and merry December 25
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == When someone asks me why as an atheist I celebrate Christmas (a festivity for which the Swedish word has always remained the pagan Jul (Yule)), I turn the question on them. Why, as a Christian do you celebrate Yuletide, which, for better and for worse, is surely the most materialist holiday of them all? For worse, obviously, as a celebration of consumerism. For better, as the expression of the human need to gather together during the coldest and darkest season and replenish ourselves with human warmth, fat food, the light of fires and, yes, the stimulation of liquid, not immaterial, spirits? On 25 dec 2011, at 18.43, Rastko Pocesta wrote: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Newton was born on 4 January of the Gregorian calendar. The teachings of Jesus have unfortunately been hijacked by the reactionaries, but they are in fact perfectly compatible with communism. A great example of this is the liberation theology. Remember *Thomas Müntzer.* On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Mark Lause markala...@gmail.com wrote: = = Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. = = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqiiCOFR0Y8 Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/comraderastko%40gmail.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/daniel.lindvall%40filmint.nu Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] The German Debate on the Monetary Theory of Value
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == A good brief sumamry in the form of a book review, from Science and Society 72, 4 (2008) 'Monetary theory of value' usually evokes, in German speaking countries, an approach to Marx that has developed out of the work of Hans-Georg Backhaus over the last thirty years or so; its guiding assumption is that the Marxist theory of value 'is conceived as a critique of pre-monetary theories of value' and 'is essentially a theory of money at the level of the description of simple circulation' (Backhaus 1997, 94). In the past few years, Michael Heinrich, above all, has taken up the cudgels for Backhaus' thesis. Heinrich takes issue with the idea, still frequently encountered in the ongoing discussion of Marx's theory, that money is merely a formal translation of an immanent quantity of value:[Money] is, rather, the necessary, and, above all, 'only possible form in which the value of a commodity can appear'. There can be no form in which value is manifested independently of exchange, for to admit this implies abolition of the difference between privately expended and socially recognized labour. (Heinrich 1999, 242) Full article as PDF: http://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/docs/00/42/26/20/PDF/Hoff_Kritik_der_klassischen_politischen_Okonomie-Science_Society.pdf Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Wolff and Resnick analysis of the current economic crisis
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == To me, Wolff and Resnick's calculations seem entirely in accord with Marx. If you define real wages as use-value received by the workers per hour worked, and productivity as use-value produced per hour worked, then the rate of surplus-value is constant if and only if real wages rise at the same rate as productivity. Also their description how every part of the surplus-value aids in further accumulation goes together well with Marx Capital I. In chapter 23 about Simple Reproduction, Marx shows how the reproduction of the worker has become a part of the reproduction of capital (it is the reproduction of capital's most valuable piece of machinery), and chapter 25 shows how reproduction of capital is what nowadays would be called an autocatalytic system: more accumulation gives higher productivity gives more surplus-value gives more accumulation. If anything, Wolff and Resnick are too much into Marx and overlook one basic weakness of Marx. Marx did not realize how much the Industrial Revolution was sustained by what Heinberg calls the fossil fuel bonanza. For instance Marx studied the railroad boom and the formation of joint stock companies necessary to amass enough capital for building railroads, but he overlooked the simple fact that without coal England's forests would have been cut down to the last stump before a fraction of the rail network necessary for a modern transportation system could have been laid. Look at E A Wrigley's book *Energy and the English Industrial Revolution*, Cambridge University Press 2010. Marx's oversight is forgiveable, but Wolff and Resnicks's is not. I am flabbergasted how someone as progressive and conscientious as Wolff and Resnick can talk about the critis of capitalist growth today without mentioning the end of cheap energy and the limits of planetary resources. Hans G Ehrbar Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Starbucks Occupation in Bogazici University
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[Marxism] Anonymous hits Stratfor
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == http://www.zerohedge.com/news/stratfor-hacked-200gb-emails-credit-cards-stolen-client-list-released-includes-mf-global-rockef http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57348247/hackers-target-us-security-think-tank/ - Juan Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Wolff and Resnick analysis of the current economic crisis
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 12/25/11 3:04 PM, ehr...@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu wrote: If anything, Wolff and Resnick are too much into Marx and overlook one basic weakness of Marx. Marx did not realize how much the Industrial Revolution was sustained by what Heinberg calls the fossil fuel bonanza. For instance Marx studied the railroad boom and the formation of joint stock companies necessary to amass enough capital for building railroads, but he overlooked the simple fact that without coal England's forests would have been cut down to the last stump before a fraction of the rail network necessary for a modern transportation system could have been laid. Look at E A Wrigley's book *Energy and the English Industrial Revolution*, Cambridge University Press 2010. The British Isles are an illustrative microcosm of what Europe eventually did to the world. The British Isles have been the scene of successive invasions. The Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal people lived there during the last ice age, and when that ice age ended about 12,000 years ago, the British Isles became islands, separated from mainland Europe. Iberian people settled the British Isles by 3000 BC and farmed the land. The Picts migrated to Scotland in about 1000 BC, and to Ireland in 200 AD. During the first millennium BC, the Celtic people overran Western Europe and also invaded the British Isles, displacing/absorbing the Iberian and Pictish peoples. The Picts battled the Romans, who invaded and conquered England in 54 BC. Hadrian’s Wall began construction in 122 AD, to keep the Picts of Scotland out of England. When the Western Roman Empire collapsed, the Germanic Anglo-Saxon peoples next invaded the British Isles. Beginning around 800 AD, the Vikings began invading the British Isles and northern continental Europe. The Vikings drove the Irish from the seas, and the Irish were never again a seafaring people.[15] They also settled in northern France and became the Normans (from “Norsemen”). The Normans invaded the British Isles in 1066, setting up the rule of Norman kings in England. Those events led to the Hundred Years’ War, and nearly continual war with France for centuries. The British Isles were steeped in invasion and warfare. Also, all non-human competitors for energy were driven from the scene, beginning with competing predators. By 900 AD, the brown bear was nearly extinct in the British Isles. In 1486, the last wolf was sighted in England. The wolf was last sighted in Wales in 1576, and the last one in Scotland in 1743. With competing predators exterminated, attention turned to competitors for crops. In 1533, the English Parliament passed a law requiring churches to have nets to catch crows and other birds. In 1566, churches were authorized to pay a bounty on a wide array of birds and mammals. In 1668, John Worlidge’s calendar demonstrated the English attitude toward animals that were “harmful” to agriculture. In February, killing all snails, frogs and tadpoles was the task. In June, it was destroying ants, and in July it was killing wasps and flies.[16] The crane became extinct in Britain during the 1500s, as did the beaver. There were walruses on the Thames as late as 1456. The great auk, which once blanketed North Atlantic Islands, and was the Northern Hemisphere’s version of the penguin, began being hunted in the 1500s for food, and was rendered extinct in 1844. The global whale rush also began in the 1500s, nearly rendering extinct what is possibly earth’s only other sentient species. England was largely deforested by the 1500s, and then Elizabethan England needed ships to join the global empire game that Europe was beginning to play. England’s solution was to invade Ireland and chop down its forests to build its navy. Ireland has yet to recover its forest. All these activities can be seen as involved with gaining/preserving energy by using trees for fuel and structure, using that newly denuded land to raise crops, killing off all animal competitors for that crop energy, and consuming energy by eating all those animals. The Carboniferous Period likely laid down great coal deposits in what became Northern and Central Europe, North America, and eastern Asia. Europeans began mining that great source of energy during the 13th century. Coal provided household heat, fuel for blacksmiths, and eventually powered the Industrial Revolution. Coal is a rocklike substance, and burning coal not only produced carbon dioxide and water, but coal also contained sulfur and other elements. Before the British Isles were completely deforested, coal began replacing wood as fuel. Coal smoke from the local vicinity drove Queen Eleanor from Nottingham Castle in 1257. By
Re: [Marxism] Wolff and Resnick analysis of the current economic crisis
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Dec 25, 2011, at 3:04 PM, ehr...@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu wrote: To me, Wolff and Resnick's calculations seem entirely in accord with Marx. If you define real wages as use-value received by the workers per hour worked, workers don't receive use value--they receive *money*, which translates into use-value only through a price index applying to the entire economic system and productivity as use-value produced per hour worked this represents *gross* productivity [(c+v+s)/v], not *net* productivity [(s+v)/v]. But ever since the physiocrats (who first recognized the decisive importance of *le produit net*) it has been clear to political economists, Marx above all, that what counts is the *net* product (hence the net productivity) and not the gross, the *net* economic surplus, not the *gross*. In Marx's time the environmental cost of production (like depletion of England's coal reserves) was slight enough to be disregarded for simplification purposes. That is now, to say the least, no longer the case. Unaccounted environmental cost represents a major (virtual) deduction from gross product and so from the surplus-value nominally available to capital for consumption and net investment. then the rate of surplus-value is constant if and only if real wages rise at the same rate as productivity i.e., at the same rate as *net* productivity. The soaring impact of environmental cost implies that net productivity is in fact declining throughout the world economy as a system. I am flabbergasted how someone as progressive and conscientious as Wolff and Resnick can talk about the critis of capitalist growth today without mentioning the end of cheap energy and the limits of planetary resources. Shane Mage All things are an equal exchange for fire and fire for all things, as goods are for gold and gold for goods. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr, 90 Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Christine Ahn of Korea Policy Institute on North Korea
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Re: [Marxism] Anonymous hits Stratfor
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Juan Fajardo fajar...@ix.netcom.comwrote: ==**==**== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. ==**==**== http://www.zerohedge.com/news/**stratfor-hacked-200gb-emails-** credit-cards-stolen-client-**list-released-includes-mf-**global-rockefhttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/stratfor-hacked-200gb-emails-credit-cards-stolen-client-list-released-includes-mf-global-rockef http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-**505245_162-57348247/hackers-** target-us-security-think-tank/http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57348247/hackers-target-us-security-think-tank/ - Juan __**__ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.**utah.eduMarxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.** utah.edu/mailman/options/**marxism/markalause%40gmail.comhttp://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/markalause%40gmail.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Have a happy and merry December 25
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == As comrade George Thompson noted, There are two Christs, one of the rulers, and one of the toilers. On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Daniel Lindvall daniel.lindv...@filmint.nu wrote: ==**==**== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. ==**==**== When someone asks me why as an atheist I celebrate Christmas (a festivity for which the Swedish word has always remained the pagan Jul (Yule)), I turn the question on them. Why, as a Christian do you celebrate Yuletide, which, for better and for worse, is surely the most materialist holiday of them all? For worse, obviously, as a celebration of consumerism. For better, as the expression of the human need to gather together during the coldest and darkest season and replenish ourselves with human warmth, fat food, the light of fires and, yes, the stimulation of liquid, not immaterial, spirits? On 25 dec 2011, at 18.43, Rastko Pocesta wrote: ==**==** == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. ==**==** == Newton was born on 4 January of the Gregorian calendar. The teachings of Jesus have unfortunately been hijacked by the reactionaries, but they are in fact perfectly compatible with communism. A great example of this is the liberation theology. Remember *Thomas Müntzer.* On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Mark Lause markala...@gmail.com wrote: ==**==** == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. ==**==** == http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=EqiiCOFR0Y8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqiiCOFR0Y8 __**__ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.**utah.eduMarxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.**utah.edu/mailman/options/** marxism/comraderastko%40gmail.**comhttp://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/comraderastko%40gmail.com __**__ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.**utah.eduMarxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.** utah.edu/mailman/options/**marxism/daniel.lindvall%**40filmint.nuhttp://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/daniel.lindvall%40filmint.nu __**__ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.**utah.eduMarxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.** utah.edu/mailman/options/**marxism/comraderastko%40gmail.**comhttp://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/comraderastko%40gmail.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Have a happy and merry December 25
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Of course, the original toiled and never ruled. The Romans who killed him also remade him into a king and the son of god, the emporer's poor cousin, I guess. This wasn't the first time that's happened and it won't be the last. I'm quite sure that if Jesus would have seen what Constantine made of his teachings, he'd have rolled his eyes and quipped to his Engels then I am not a Christian. The older I get, the more clearly I'm seeing how the world constructs our perceptions of it by inverting our experience into its exact opposite. ML Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Have a happy and merry December 25
Yes, once again we celebrate the life of our favorite religionist (heretical), biblical scholar, occultist, prophet of the apocalypse, and all around weird guy. Can we find anyone else born on 25 December? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_newton#Religious_views According to most scholars, Newton was a monotheist who believed in biblical prophecies but was Antitrinitarian.[6][69] 'In Newton's eyes, worshipping Christ as God was idolatry, to him the fundamental sin'.[70] Historian Stephen D. Snobelen says of Newton, Isaac Newton was a heretic. But ... he never made a public declaration of his private faith — which the orthodox would have deemed extremely radical. He hid his faith so well that scholars are still unravelling his personal beliefs.[6] Snobelen concludes that Newton was at least a Socinian sympathiser (he owned and had thoroughly read at least eight Socinian books), possibly an Arian and almost certainly an anti-trinitarian.[6] In an age notable for its religious intolerance, there are few public expressions of Newton's radical views, most notably his refusal to take holy orders and his refusal, on his death bed, to take the sacrament when it was offered to him.[6] In a view disputed by Snobelen,[6] T.C. Pfizenmaier argues that Newton held the Arian view of the Trinity rather than the Western one held by Roman Catholics, Anglicans, and most Protestants.[71] Although the laws of motion and universal gravitation became Newton's best-known discoveries, he warned against using them to view the Universe as a mere machine, as if akin to a great clock. He said, Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who set the planets in motion. God governs all things and knows all that is or can be done.[72] His scientific fame notwithstanding, Newton's studies of the Bible and of the early Church Fathers were also noteworthy. Newton wrote works on textual criticism, most notably An Historical Account of Two Notable Corruptions of Scripture. He also placed the crucifixion of Jesus Christ at 3 April, AD 33, which agrees with one traditionally accepted date.[73] He also tried, unsuccessfully, to find hidden messages within the Bible. Newton wrote more on religion than he did on natural science. He believed in a rationally immanent world, but he rejected the hylozoism implicit in Leibniz and Baruch Spinoza. Thus, the ordered and dynamically informed Universe could be understood, and must be understood, by an active reason. In his correspondence, Newton claimed that in writing the Principia I had an eye upon such Principles as might work with considering men for the belief of a Deity.[74] He saw evidence of design in the system of the world: Such a wonderful uniformity in the planetary system must be allowed the effect of choice. But Newton insisted that divine intervention would eventually be required to reform the system, due to the slow growth of instabilities.[75] For this, Leibniz lampooned him: God Almighty wants to wind up his watch from time to time: otherwise it would cease to move. He had not, it seems, sufficient foresight to make it a perpetual motion.[76] Newton's position was vigorously defended by his follower Samuel Clarke in a famous correspondence. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton%27s_religious_views http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton%27s_occult_studies ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Have a happy and merry December 25
I nominate Rod Serling for our celebrated life. Certainly more socially interesting than most of what I see on lists like LBO Squawk or Marxmal or the A (sshole)-List. CJ On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 11:02 PM, CeJ jann...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, once again we celebrate the life of our favorite religionist (heretical), biblical scholar, occultist, prophet of the apocalypse, and all around weird guy. Can we find anyone else born on 25 December? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_newton#Religious_views ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Why too- big -to- fail creditors should not be able to charge interest
Because the rationale for charging interest is that the creditor faces risk of loss , risk of non-performance by the debtor. I don't think this applies to loans. They charge interest on loans in order to make a profit. Where else are bank profits going to come from? Another way of creating debt is bonds, and in that case the higher the interest rate, the more the perceived possibility of loss due to non-performance, I guess. In other words, if 'markets' drive up the interest rate on Italy's government bonds to 7%, vs. for example, 2% on UK's, they are saying that they feel there is a much greater risk of default with Italian bonds--so they want that much more interest in order to justify holding that debt. CJ ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Ron Paul Supporter Openly Calls For Assassination Of President Obama On Facebook Page ?
Wow, the warpigs in the WH must really be afraid over Ron Paul's anti-war stance and his surge in polls in Iowa. I checked out the so-called 'Ron Paul supporter' and he is no one official with the campaign. He also doesn't actually seem to be someone closely associated with the so-called Tea Party. He ran as a 'Libertarian' in some minor local political campaign and got a few hundred votes. Ron Paul is an anti-war Republican who espouses some libertarian views as well as strict constitutional constructionism. But this is just an attempt to create guilt by association (headline association) to poison web searches on Ron Paul from now on. The Obomber warpigs really are scared of RP. But they are very smart and well-funded (they will get even more Wall St. money if ex-private equiteer Romney loses to Paul). So things are looking pretty good for that next trillion plus warpig national security budget in 2012. CJ ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Ron Paul Supporter Openly Calls For Assassination Of President Obama On Facebook Page ?
More concerned that he had a KKK type newsletter a few years back. Ron Paul and his Senator son, have a George Wallace position on the Civil Rights Act. On 12/25/11, CeJ jann...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, the warpigs in the WH must really be afraid over Ron Paul's anti-war stance and his surge in polls in Iowa. I checked out the so-called 'Ron Paul supporter' and he is no one official with the campaign. He also doesn't actually seem to be someone closely associated with the so-called Tea Party. He ran as a 'Libertarian' in some minor local political campaign and got a few hundred votes. Ron Paul is an anti-war Republican who espouses some libertarian views as well as strict constitutional constructionism. But this is just an attempt to create guilt by association (headline association) to poison web searches on Ron Paul from now on. The Obomber warpigs really are scared of RP. But they are very smart and well-funded (they will get even more Wall St. money if ex-private equiteer Romney loses to Paul). So things are looking pretty good for that next trillion plus warpig national security budget in 2012. CJ ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
[Marxism-Thaxis] Plenary Talk Abstracts of the Conference Critique, Democracy, and Philosophy in 21st Century Information Society (Uppsala, 2-4 May 2012)
Critique, Democracy, and Philosophy in 21st Century Information Society Towards Critical Theories of Social Media The Fourth ICTs and Society-Conference Uppsala University, May 2nd-4th, 2012. The collected abstracts of the plenary talks are now available: http://www.icts-and-society.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/abstracts.pdf Opening Plenary Vincent Mosco (Queen’s University, Canada): Marx is Back, but Will Knowledge Workers of the World Unite? On the Critical Study of Labour, Media, and Communication Today Graham Murdock (Loughborough University, UK): The Digital Lives of Commodities: Consumption, Ideology and Exploitation Today Featuring plenary talks by Andrew Feenberg, Catherine McKercher, Charles Ess, Christian Christensen, Christian Fuchs, Gunilla Bradley, Mark Andrejevic, Nick Dyer-Witheford, Peter Dahlgren, Tobias Olsson, Trebor Scholz, Ursula Huws, Wolfgang Hofkirchner. Abstract submission: open until February, 2012 29 (deadline) ATTENTION: We recommend EARLY submission of abstracts way before the deadline because the presentation slots are limited and abstracts will be reviewed continuously starting in early January 2012. Once all presentation slots are filled, the submission process will be closed. Submission information: http://www.icts-and-society.net/events/uppsala2012/ http://www.icts-and-society.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/CallforAbstracts.pdf ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
[Marxism-Thaxis] tripleC: Table of Contents Vol. 9 (2011)
tripleC: Open Access Journal for a Global Sustainable Information Society Edited by Christian Fuchs tripleC is a peer-review open access journal that focuses on information society studies and studies of media, digital media, information and communication in society with a special interest in critical studies in these thematic areas. It is indexed in Scopus, Communication and Mass Media Complete, Sociological Abstracts. The 2012 volume will feature besides regular contributions the three special issues “Marx is Back – The Importance of Marxist Theory and Research for Critical Communication Studies Today” (edited by Christian Fuchs and Vincent Mosco), Political Economy and Critical Theory of the Internet @ Nordmedia 2011 (edited by Christian Fuchs and Göran Bolin), “The Difference that Makes a Difference 2011” (edited by David Chapman and Magnus Ramage”). http://www.triple-c.at Table of Contents Vol. 9 (2011) Vol 9, No 2 (2011) Articles: * Privacy as Invisibility: Pervasive Surveillance and the Privatization of Peer-to-Peer Systems Francesca Musiani, 126-140 * Selling You and Your Clicks: Examining the Audience Commodification of Google Hyunjin Kang, Matthew P. McAllister, 141-153 * Can Online Forums Be Designed to Empower Local Communities? Kerill Dunne, 154-174 * Consumer Protection in Cyberspace Oscar H. Gandy, Jr., 175-189 * Neoliberalism in the Information Age, or Vice Versa? Global Citizenship, Technology, and Hegemonic Ideology Robert Neubauer, 195-230 * Communicative Informatics: An Active and Creative Audience Framework of Social Media Linda M. Gallant, Gloria M. Boone, 231-246 * Can Environmental Governance Benefit From an ICT-Social Capital Nexus in Civil Society? Subas P. Dhakal, 551-565 * Critical Surveillance Studies in the Information Society Thomas Allmer, 566-592 * Avatar: A Marxist Saga on the Far Distant Planet Yong Tang, 657-557 * From Seven Years to 360 Degrees: Primitive Accumulation, the Social Common, and the Contractual Lockdown of Recording Artists at the Threshold of Digitalization Matt Stahl, 668-688 * Social Networking and Transnational Capitalism David Kreps, 689-701 Reflections: * Two New Critical Internet Studies-Books: Marcus Breen’s “Uprising” and Eran Fisher’s “Media and New Capitalism in the Digital Age” Christian Fuchs, 190-194 * Critical Media and Communication Studies Today. A Conversation Christian Fuchs, Dwayne Winseck, 247-271 Special Issue: ICTs and Society - A New Transdiscipline? Edited by Joseph E. Brenner and Celina Raffl, 593-656 (introduction + 5 contributions) Special Issue: Towards a New Science of Information Edited by Wolfgang Hofkirchner, 272-550 (introduction + 31 contributions) Vol 9, No 1 (2011) Articles * Doing Research, Doing Politics: ICT Research as a Form of Activism Juliet Webster, 1-10 * Embracing Technology and the Challenges of Complexity Alice Robbin, 11-27 * Social Media for Digital and Social Inclusion: Challenges for Information Society 2.0 Research Policies Pieter Verdegem, 28-38 * From Financialization to Low and Non-Profit: Emerging Media Models for Freedom Nuria Almiron-Roig, 39-61 * Deconstructing Bentham’s Panopticon: The New Metaphors of Surveillance in the Web 2.0 Environment Manuela Farinosi, 62-76 * Information – is it Subjective or Objective? Andrzej Stanislaw Zaliwski, 77-92 * The Need for an Informational Systems Approach to Security José María Díaz Nafría, 93-122 Reflections * Book Review: Signs of Science - Linguistics meets Biology Robert Prinz, 123-125 ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
[Marxism-Thaxis] Why too- big -to- fail creditors should not be able to charge interest
Yes, you can see below that the standard rationale for charging interest includes charging for the risk that the loan might not be paid back. There are other reasons discussed. I would just like to get some discussion of this in the context of the Occupation Wall Street movement, as part of defining and popular education on what Wall Street is. I do think the bailouts undermine part of their own reasoning. Critique of the contradictions in capital's own ideology and terms can develop anti-capialist mass political consciousness and action, even without using Marxist critique. Interest is a fee paid by a borrower of assets to the owner as a form of compensation for the use of the assets. It is most commonly the price paid for the use of borrowed money,[1] or money earned by deposited funds.[2] When money is borrowed, interest is typically paid to the lender as a percentage of the principal, the amount owed to the lender. The percentage of the principal that is paid as a fee over a certain period of time (typically one month or year) is called the interest rate. A bank deposit will earn interest because t On 12/25/11, CeJ jann...@gmail.com wrote: Because the rationale for charging interest is that the creditor faces risk of loss , risk of non-performance by the debtor. I don't think this applies to loans. They charge interest on loans in order to make a profit. Where else are bank profits going to come from? Another way of creating debt is bonds, and in that case the higher the interest rate, the more the perceived possibility of loss due to non-performance, I guess. In other words, if 'markets' drive up the interest rate on Italy's government bonds to 7%, vs. for example, 2% on UK's, they are saying that they feel there is a much greater risk of default with Italian bonds--so they want that much more interest in order to justify holding that debt. CJ ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
[Marxism-Thaxis] I AM THE 99%
Teri Deister Okay Here I go.. I also want to thank all of the OCCUPIERS and I commend you for your efforts.. and your demands... I know that you are out there every day and every night.. trying to speak out for those of us WITHOUT A VOICE.. or too chicken shit .. to SPEAK THEIR VOICE.. But I AM THE 99%.. I BACK YOU 100%.. And when this all is over.. and the point is PROVEN AND TAKEN... I CAN ONLY HOPE THOSE THAT CALLED ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
[Marxism-Thaxis] Origin of boycott
Go even further back to the origins of the word boycott and you'll find the story of Irish tenant farmers who got tired of being taken advantage of by rich landowners. Charles C. Boycott, an English estate manager in Ireland, found himself in the middle of a game-changing protest. Despite a poor harvest, Boycott had refused to lower rents for the farmers. So local laborers in turn refused to work the land that Boycott was managing. Leading that protest was Charles Parnell, an Irish politician, who fought for the rights of the tenant farmers. Parnell advocated peaceful protest, one in which workers ostracized the people behind unfair business practices. Etymology Vanity Fair caricature of Charles C. BoycottThe word boycott entered the English language during the Irish Land War and is derived from the name of Captain Charles Boycott, the land agent of an absentee landlord, Lord Erne, who lived in Lough Mask House, in County Mayo, Ireland, who was subject to social ostracism organized by the Irish Land League in 1880. As harvests had been poor that year, Lord Erne offered his tenants a ten percent reduction in their rents. In September of that year, protesting tenants demanded a twenty five percent reduction, which Lord Erne refused. Boycott then attempted to evict eleven tenants from the land. Charles Stewart Parnell, in a speech in Ennis prior to the events in Lough Mask, proposed that when dealing with tenants who take farms where another tenant was evicted, rather than resorting to violence, everyone in the locality should shun them. While Parnell's speech did not refer to land agents or landlords, the tactic was first applied to Boycott when the alarm was raised about the evictions. Despite the short-term economic hardship to those undertaking this action, Boycott soon found himself isolated — his workers stopped work in the fields and stables, as well as in his house. Local businessmen stopped trading with him, and the local postman refused to deliver mail.[1] The concerted action taken against him meant that Boycott was unable to hire anyone to harvest the crops in his charge. Eventually 50 Orangemen from Cavan and Monaghan volunteered to do the work. They were escorted to and from Claremorris by one thousand policemen and soldiers, despite the fact that the local Land League leaders had said that there would be no violence from them, and in fact no violence materialized.[2] This protection ended up costing far more than the harvest was worth. After the harvest, the boycott was successfully continued. Within weeks Boycott's name was everywhere. It was used by The Times in November 1880 as a term for organized isolation. According to an account in the book “The Fall of Feudalism in Ireland” by Michael Davitt, the term was promoted by Fr. John O'Malley of County Mayo to signify ostracism applied to a landlord or agent like Boycott. The Times first reported on November 20, 1880: “The people of New Pallas have resolved to 'boycott' them and refused to supply them with food or drink.” The Daily News wrote on December 13, 1880: “Already the stoutest-hearted are yielding on every side to the dread of being 'Boycotted'.” By January of the following year, the word was being used figuratively: Dame Nature arose She 'Boycotted' London from Kew to Mile End (The Spectator, January 22, 1881). Girlcott is a neologism that combines girl and boycott to focus on strictly female boycotts. The term was coined in 1968 by American track star Lacey O'Neal during the 1968 Summer Olympics in Mexico City, in the context of protests by male African American athletes. Speaking for black women athletes, she advised that the group would not girlcott the Olympic Games, because female athletes were still focused on being recognized. It also appeared in Time magazine in 1970, and was later used by retired tennis player Billie Jean King in reference to Wimbledon, to emphasize her argument regarding equal play for women players. The term girlcott was revived in 2005 by a group of young women in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania protesting what they deemed sexist and degrading T-shirt slogans on Abercrombie Fitch merchandise.[3] ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Why too- big -to- fail creditors should not be able to charge interest
What you are getting at here, I believe, is the very damaging and possibly criminal nature of forcing people into high-interest loans that increase their chance of defaulting. The system basically says, you are a bad credit risk, so the the only loan we will extend you is so high in interest, that it guarantees you will fail. But that's o.k., because the only reason why we are extending this loan to you now is that you will pay on it for a while, we will extract transaction fees (including the real estate agent aspects, which in many areas, the banks control), and then we will repossess the property/house/real estate from you, with the added benefit to us of the property being worth more when we do repossess it. The last aspect is now largely faded, which would explain why banks and financial groups have been waiting before they launch the next wave of repossessions. CJ ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
