Re: [Marxism] Bolivia, Nicaragua and Venezuela all offer Snowden asylum
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 09:49:28 -0400 Richard Fidler writes: > > Yeah, like Assange, still in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London after > how many > months? Most likely, the offers of asylum would mean that Snowden getting to inhabit, for the forseeable future, one of the embassies in Moscow of those countries offering him asylum. For it to mean anything more, he would have to be able to fly from Moscow to on the the countries offering him asylum. But as the incident with the Bolivian president's plane indicates, the US is unlikely to allow such a flight to take place and would not be above any means at its disposal to prevent him from landing. The only way I can one of these offers of asylum as being actually to take effect would be if the Russians offer to fly him on one of their aircraft, with the Russian government making it clear that it would treat ny attempts on the part of the US to interfere with this flight as an act of war. I am not holding my breath on that happening though. Jim Farmelant http://independent.academia.edu/JimFarmelant www.foxymath.com Learn or Review Basic Math > > -Original Message- > From: > marxism-bounces+rfidler_8=sympatico...@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu > [mailto:marxism-bounces+rfidler_8=sympatico...@greenhouse.economics.utah. edu > ] On Behalf Of Daniel Rocha > Sent: July-07-13 7:58 AM > To: rfidle...@sympatico.ca > Subject: Re: [Marxism] Bolivia, Nicaragua and Venezuela all offer > Snowden > asylum > Want to place your ad here? Advertise on United Online http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/51d9e7d99cf8067d94836st04vuc Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Badiou's "The Racism of Intellectuals"
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Sun, 06 May 2012 08:51:02 -0400 Louis Proyect writes: > > On 5/6/12 1:23 AM, guava tree wrote: > > this article is trending pretty heavily in francophone world. > > interesting article that focuses the worries over the racist > far-right > > in france less on those who vote for Le Pen, and moreso on the > elected > > power establishment both "socialist" "left" and of course the > > right--but also the intellectuals who lay the groundwork for the > nexus > > of the islamophobic and racist ideologies. > > > > Here is my provisional translation: > > > > > http://guavapuree.wordpress.com/2012/05/06/badiou-the-racism-of-intellect uals-translation/ > > I think this is excellent but it is a shame that Badiou does not > name > names. I for one am appalled by Counterpunch's tendency to > soft-pedal > Marine Le Pen. That would seem consistent with Alex Cockburn's tendency to make nice with the far right, both here and abroad. People may remember his friendliness towards the militias back in the 1990s. Concerning Badiou's piece, I would add that back in the 1980s, President Mitterand deliberately changed the electoral system so as to effectively guarantee that the FN would always do well in the first rung of general elections. He did this to weaken the more moderate right-wing parties like the Gaullists. And by making the FN into a strong force in electoral politics, Mitterand provided an easy excuse for both his Socialists and the moderate right-wing policies to embrace FN positions on issues like immigration. Jim Farmelant http://independent.academia.edu/JimFarmelant www.foxymath.com Learn or Review Basic Math 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fa68bc068696e69052st02vuc Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Green nazis
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Thu, 3 May 2012 15:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Sun Eagle writes: > == > Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a > message. > == > > > I find it significant that those historians of the Holocaust that > make the case for the existence of a Nazi philosophy are either > Jewish Americans, such as Coonz, or Israeli historians, such as > Yehuda Bauer, who once wrote: "Hitler, Himmler et all had a > philosophy---the re-drawing of the racial map of Europe. It was a > crazy philosophy, but a philosophy nevertheless." In other words, > the victims, and children of the victims, of the Nazi genocide grasp > that there was a philosophical core to Nazism---biopolitics---and > not a jerry-built contraception of crazy ideas. I think that one would be hard put to find too many ideas that were specifically peculiar to the Nazis. What you call biopolitics was widespread and embraced by people with wide variety of political ideologies. Up to WW II, eugenics was popular among both intellectuals and public officials across the political spectrum, and that includes involuntary sterlization which was widely practiced in much of the USA as well as in social democratic Scandinavia. In the USA, the Supreme Court in the Buck v. Bell case in 1927 upheld the constitutionality of forced sterlization of the so-called unfit. The majority opinion was authored by the very notable justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr, who wrote: "We have seen more than once that the public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives. It would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices, often not felt to be such by those concerned, to prevent our being swamped with incompetence. It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes." And famously concluded that, "Three generations of imbeciles are enough". Notions of so-called scientific racism were also widespread throughout Western countries. In the US, psychologists and other researchers sought to prove "scientifically" the inferiority of African-Americans and other ethnic groups. Jim Farmelant http://independent.academia.edu/JimFarmelant www.foxymath.com Learn or Review Basic Math 60-Year-Old Woman is 25 Deal Of The Day: Woman's Free Trick to Look 20+ Years Younger http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4fa478b5db923dcbb9est03vuc Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
