Re: [Marxism] Bitcoin firm CEO jumped from 25-story building to her death | New York Post
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 03/07/2014 01:00 AM, Louis Proyect wrote: > http://nypost.com/2014/03/06/bitcoin-firm-ceo-jumped-to-her-death-neighbor/ > > What does it mean that I have no idea what Bitcoin is? Am I getting old? My understanding is that at present bitcoin is an investment good for speculators, plus you can also buy something with it online and IRL as well. As a "universal" currency, it would be as backward as the gold standard, in that it doesn't make any sense to limit your political and economic options to some arbitrarily scarce circulating medium like gold or bitcoin (the algorithm of which is designed to generate only a limited number of bitcoins). If a society has the resources (means of production, qualified labour power, raw materials) to do something with them, but can't because there's only so much gold or bitcoins in circulation and we don't happen to have enough of it right now, it's absurd, as absurd as to say that we can't make any decisions when it's night. (I think the US debt ceiling show is also relevant here.) The real limit of economic and political decision-making is the really existing resources available to a society (and maybe the technologies that allow the collecting and handling of the relevant information for their coordinated, planned use). -- jjonas @ nic.fi Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Bitcoin firm CEO jumped from 25-story building to her death | New York Post
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Agreed! Some investors have lost literally all their money on pieces of electronic data. The money went down a rabbit hole. Erik On Mar 6, 2014 5:31 PM, "Einde O'Callaghan" wrote: > == > Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > == > > > > Am 07.03.2014 00:00, schrieb Louis Proyect: > >> >> http://nypost.com/2014/03/06/bitcoin-firm-ceo-jumped-to- >> her-death-neighbor/ >> >> What does it mean that I have no idea what Bitcoin is? Am I getting old? >> >> Bitcoin is an attempt to create an alternative "virtual" currency > outside the control of governments or central banks. I've always though it > was a bit of a "utopian" capitalist project and now it all seems to be > coming unstuck. Unfortunately, it appears to be people associated with the > collapse of this effort who are jumping out of tall buildings rather than > the fatcat bankers who are still raking in their bonuses worth millions > while their banks are being rescued using billions of public money! > > Einde O'Callaghan > > > Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu > Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/ > marxism/ectoren%40gmail.com > Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Bitcoin firm CEO jumped from 25-story building to her death | New York Post
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Think tulip bulbs or the Mississippi Bubble. T -Original Message- >From: Einde O'Callaghan >Sent: Mar 6, 2014 6:27 PM >To: Thomas F Barton >Subject: Re: [Marxism] Bitcoin firm CEO jumped from 25-story building to her >death | New York Post > >== >Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. >== > > > >Am 07.03.2014 00:00, schrieb Louis Proyect: >> >> http://nypost.com/2014/03/06/bitcoin-firm-ceo-jumped-to-her-death-neighbor/ >> >> >> What does it mean that I have no idea what Bitcoin is? Am I getting old? >> >Bitcoin is an attempt to create an alternative "virtual" currency >outside the control of governments or central banks. I've always though >it was a bit of a "utopian" capitalist project and now it all seems to >be coming unstuck. Unfortunately, it appears to be people associated >with the collapse of this effort who are jumping out of tall buildings >rather than the fatcat bankers who are still raking in their bonuses >worth millions while their banks are being rescued using billions of >public money! > >Einde O'Callaghan > > >Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu >Set your options at: >http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/thomasfbarton%40earthlink.net Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Bitcoin firm CEO jumped from 25-story building to her death | New York Post
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == It's been in the news quite a bit . . . at least NPR . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin . . but, yes, Louis, we are getting old. Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Bitcoin firm CEO jumped from 25-story building to her death | New York Post
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Am 07.03.2014 00:00, schrieb Louis Proyect: http://nypost.com/2014/03/06/bitcoin-firm-ceo-jumped-to-her-death-neighbor/ What does it mean that I have no idea what Bitcoin is? Am I getting old? Bitcoin is an attempt to create an alternative "virtual" currency outside the control of governments or central banks. I've always though it was a bit of a "utopian" capitalist project and now it all seems to be coming unstuck. Unfortunately, it appears to be people associated with the collapse of this effort who are jumping out of tall buildings rather than the fatcat bankers who are still raking in their bonuses worth millions while their banks are being rescued using billions of public money! Einde O'Callaghan Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Bitcoin firm CEO jumped from 25-story building to her death | New York Post
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == http://nypost.com/2014/03/06/bitcoin-firm-ceo-jumped-to-her-death-neighbor/ What does it mean that I have no idea what Bitcoin is? Am I getting old? Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com