Re: [Marxism] Samir Amin on Qaddafi

2011-05-24 Thread Vladimiro Giacche'

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If any of these people had been issuing
warnings about such a likelihood before 2011, they could be taken 
more seriously.


You're obviously right.
But you forget an important fact: this war was prepared and launched 
in a few weeks.
Also the public opinion in western countries was - so to speak - 
prepared for war in a couple of weeks, using the real uprising against 
Gaddafi and a lot of false news.
I would add that this rapid deployment of mainstream media is one of 
the most important factors in this war - and a quite astonishing one.

A lesson for all us, for the future.
VG


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Re: [Marxism] Samir Amin on Qaddafi

2011-05-24 Thread Louis Proyect

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On 5/24/11 11:53 AM, Vladimiro Giacche' wrote:


You're obviously right.
But you forget an important fact: this war was prepared and launched in
a few weeks.
Also the public opinion in western countries was - so to speak -
prepared for war in a couple of weeks, using the real uprising against
Gaddafi and a lot of false news.
I would add that this rapid deployment of mainstream media is one of the
most important factors in this war - and a quite astonishing one.
A lesson for all us, for the future.


I don't question the demonization of Qaddafi, the CIA ties to elements 
of the self-elected leadership, etc. What I question is the notion that 
the West and Libya were on some type of Milosevic collision course. 
There are all sorts of desperate attempts to paint Qaddafi as an 
anti-imperialist hero. Such a bid is only possible by flushing 10 years 
of history into the memory toilet.



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