Re: [Marxism] Sexual predation and a splitting UK SWP

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Moody
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on Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:47:07 +0100, Einde O'Callaghan wrote:
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> On 08.01.2013 23:36, Jim Moody wrote:
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>> Looks likely that the UK's SWP is on the way to a split, with some
>> ructions already in evidence.
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>> National Secretary, Martin Smith, has been accused of being a
>> sexual predator, with a session at the SWP's recent conference
>> taking a report of a rape allegation. One commentary is here:
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>> http://www.2ndcouncilhouse.co.uk/blog/2013/01/06/misogynists-and-
>> the-left/
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> In the interests of accuracy I'd like to point out that Martin Smith
> hasn't been national secretary of the SWP or a member of the
> leadership for the last two years - this is at least partly the
> result of the allegations which were first raised and discussed
> within the organisation two years ago.
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> It would be nice if people taking potshots at the SWP could at least
> be up to date with their information!
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> Whether there will be a split and, if so, on what basis and how large
> remains to be seen - however I tend to feel that reports of the SWP's
> demise are rather premature.
>
> This week's Socialist Worker contains a report on the conference
> including a brief discussion of the factions:
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> http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=30285
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> Einde O'Callaghan

It's not a question of taking 'pot shots', as Einde calls it, but more a 
question of distress that the largest revolutionary organisation on the 
left in Britain might haemorrhage revolutionaries, as the WRP did upon its 
critical break-up. The SWP membership is, to my mind, one of the 
ur-components of the single revolutionary party that we desperately need. 
If these comrades are scattered to the four winds then it is not a good 
thing for the working class. I really hope that dissident SWPers will stay 
in and fight for a truly democratically centralist party.

Former national secretary Smith's case is but one symptom of the problem 
with a party (among many on the left) whose leadership has until now 
suppressed the democratic element in democratic centralism.

Andy Newman's Socialist Unity blog was first to publish the SWP's Disputes 
Committee report, AFAIK, here:

http://www.socialistunity.com/swp-conference-transcript-disputes-committee-
report/

-- 
Jim Moody (j...@redunity.org.uk) on 09/01/2013

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Re: [Marxism] Sexual predation and a splitting UK SWP

2013-01-08 Thread Einde O'Callaghan

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On 08.01.2013 23:36, Jim Moody wrote:




Looks likely that the UK's SWP is on the way to a split, with some ructions
already in evidence.

National Secretary, Martin Smith, has been accused of being a sexual
predator, with a session at the SWP's recent conference taking a report of
a rape allegation. One commentary is here:

http://www.2ndcouncilhouse.co.uk/blog/2013/01/06/misogynists-and-the-left/

In the interests of accuracy I'd like to point out that Martin Smith 
hasn't been national secretary of the SWP or a member of the leadership 
for the last two years - this is at least partly the result of the 
allegations which were first raised and discussed within the 
organisation two years ago.


It would be nice if people taking potshots at the SWP could at least be 
up to date with their information!


Whether there will be a split and, if so, on what basis and how large 
remains to be seen - however I tend to feel that reports of the SWP's 
demise are rather premature.


This week's Socialist Worker contains a report on the conference 
including a brief discussion of the factions:


http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=30285

Einde O'Callaghan


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[Marxism] Sexual predation and a splitting UK SWP

2013-01-08 Thread Jim Moody
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Looks likely that the UK's SWP is on the way to a split, with some ructions 
already in evidence.

National Secretary, Martin Smith, has been accused of being a sexual 
predator, with a session at the SWP's recent conference taking a report of 
a rape allegation. One commentary is here:

http://www.2ndcouncilhouse.co.uk/blog/2013/01/06/misogynists-and-the-left/

-- 
Jim Moody (j...@redunity.org.uk) on 08/01/2013

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