Re: [Marxism] To the anti-anti-anti Gaddafi comrades

2011-04-25 Thread Dennis Brasky
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On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Eli Stephens
wrote:

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> Still think you're on the right side? How does it feel to be on the side of
> John McCain and Lindsey Graham?
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> Obama was opposed by the Klan - "how does it feel to be ..." The old
> Stalinist amalgam - such superficial tripe.
>
> Einde provides a Marxist approach -- "This mistake in the analysis comes
from concentrating on the shifting alliances at the top and not looking at
the class forces in motion down below."

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Re: [Marxism] To the anti-anti-anti Gaddafi comrades

2011-04-24 Thread Einde O'Callaghan

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On 25.04.2011 05:55, Eli Stephens wrote:


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-24/mccain-says-libyan-rebels-badly-outgunned-against-qaddafi.html

"John McCain urged the U.S. to recognize the rebel Transitional
National Council as the country’s government and provide
financial assistance." He and Lindsey Graham, two of the most right-wing (in 
foreign policy terms) members of the Senate, are pushing for increased support for 
the rebels.

Still think you're on the right side? How does it feel to be on the side of 
John McCain and Lindsey Graham?

Using this methodology we'd have to reject the Russian Revolutions of 
1905 and February 1917 as well as the German Revolution in 1918. The 
figurehead of the first was Father Gapon, a government spy and 
provocateur. The provisional government that emerged from the second was 
led packed with alienated supporters of the ancien regime as was the 
provisional government as was the provisional government that emerged 
from the last.


This mistake in the analysis comes from concentrating on the shifting 
alliances at the top and not looking at the class forces in motion down 
below.


Einde O'Callaghan


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Re: [Marxism] To the anti-anti-anti Gaddafi comrades

2011-04-24 Thread Mark Lause
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Eli Stephens  wrote:

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> "John McCain urged the U.S. to recognize the rebel Transitional
> National Council as the country’s government and provide
> financial assistance." He and Lindsey Graham, two of the most right-wing
> (in foreign policy terms) members of the Senate, are pushing for increased
> support for the rebels.
>
>
Sometimes this list provides excellent examples of logical fallacies.

Eli, you're smarter than this fish-slapping silliness.

ML

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Re: [Marxism] To the anti-anti-anti Gaddafi comrades

2011-04-24 Thread Shane Mage

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On Apr 24, 2011, at 11:55 PM, Eli Stephens wrote:


"John McCain urged the U.S. to recognize the rebel Transitional
National Council as the country’s government and provide
financial assistance." He and Lindsey Graham, two of the most right- 
wing (in foreign policy terms) members of the Senate, are pushing  
for increased support for the rebels.


Still think you're on the right side? How does it feel to be on the  
side of John McCain and Lindsey Graham?


In the 1940's the Nazis were supporting Palestinian independence.  How  
does it feel to be on the side of Adolf Hitler?





Shane Mage

"Thunderbolt steers all things." Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64






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[Marxism] To the anti-anti-anti Gaddafi comrades

2011-04-24 Thread Eli Stephens
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-24/mccain-says-libyan-rebels-badly-outgunned-against-qaddafi.html

"John McCain urged the U.S. to recognize the rebel Transitional
National Council as the country’s government and provide
financial assistance." He and Lindsey Graham, two of the most right-wing (in 
foreign policy terms) members of the Senate, are pushing for increased support 
for the rebels.

Still think you're on the right side? How does it feel to be on the side of 
John McCain and Lindsey Graham?

Eli Stephens
 Left I on the News
 http://lefti.blogspot.com

  

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