[Marxism] 1956

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Tom Mboya was Kenyan, not a Nigerian as Paul Buhle wrongly says

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Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

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There’s an egregious error from the first volume of John’s memoir (from
2005), which I pointed out at some point but too late before printing (this
was released a bit before the DSP faction fight and split made rational
political discussion with John sadly impossible).

The incident was well before my time but related to one of my research
interest, Australian independent music. John mentions a curious appearance
of the SWP in popular culture was a recording, sometime in the 70s, of Sol
Solbe heartily crying out “Direct Action, twenty cents!” at the start of
the song “The boy who lost his jocks at Flinders St Station”. However, John
wrongly attributed the song to Weddings, Parties, Anything, when it was
actually by another seminal Melbourne band, Painters and Dockers, on their
1984 release Love Planet.

They were named after a fairly notorious union both due to their
tongue-in-cheek punk provocativeness but also a genuine leftism. They broke
into the top 40 for a while in the early 90s. I don’t know why they had a
recording of Sol’s sales pitch but presumably recording urban soundscapes
was the sort of thing young artsy punks did in the 70s.

Another curious affinity between this band and the SWP/DSP is that singer
Paul Stewart has had a special concern for East Timor liberation struggle
since his older brother along with four other Australian journalists was
executed by Indonesian troops there in 1975, and his later band the Dili
All Stars gets back together occasionally for benefits. So there you go.

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> > That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical
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Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

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I wonder if there is any reference to the internal document that described
me as "an ultra left lunatic'? I remember being very proud of that.

comradely

Gary

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> I have just noticed that sneaky ole Gwynnyth gets more than one mention in
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> am indexed you are not, despite our appearance in the same paragraph -- go
> figure!
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> Hi David
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> That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical
> takeover but that is so long ago now.
>
> Am hoping for great things from the UK when the Tory government finally
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> As ever
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Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

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Hi Chris,

 

As per the index - bingo!  You have eight mentions, however you could - we
all could - have considerably more as the Index hasn't been very well
researched.  I found another reference to myself that is not indexed
(admittedly it was a reference to my surname only but it shouldn't take too
much to work out that perhaps "Dave Fagan" and "Fagan" are the same person).
I can only imagine that many more are there just waiting for us to turn the
page.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 15:29
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Socialist Workers Party

 

Do I get a mention?

Chris Slee 

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Hi Gary,

I have just noticed that sneaky ole Gwynnyth gets more than one mention in
the index:  several as G. Farr and then as Evans.  Strangely even though I
am indexed you are not, despite our appearance in the same paragraph -- go
figure!

D

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Socialist Workers Party

Hi David 

That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical
takeover but that is so long ago now.

Am hoping for great things from the UK when the Tory government finally
falls.

As ever

Gary





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> League/Communist League fusion, along with Gwynnyth.  Percy (or 
> Meyers) misspelled Gwynnyth's first name though I am sure that are 
> guilty of many more serious crimes than that in their quest to "build 
> the revolutionary party."  No pictures unfortunately.
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Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

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Do I get a mention?

Chris Slee

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Hi Gary,

I have just noticed that sneaky ole Gwynnyth gets more than one mention in
the index:  several as G. Farr and then as Evans.  Strangely even though I
am indexed you are not, despite our appearance in the same paragraph -- go
figure!

D

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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 11:36
To: David Fagan ; Activists and scholars in Marxist
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Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
Socialist Workers Party

Hi David

That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical
takeover but that is so long ago now.

Am hoping for great things from the UK when the Tory government finally
falls.

As ever

Gary





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Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

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Hi Gary,

I have just noticed that sneaky ole Gwynnyth gets more than one mention in
the index:  several as G. Farr and then as Evans.  Strangely even though I
am indexed you are not, despite our appearance in the same paragraph -- go
figure!

D

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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 11:36
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Subject: Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian
Socialist Workers Party

Hi David 

That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical
takeover but that is so long ago now.

Am hoping for great things from the UK when the Tory government finally
falls.

As ever

Gary





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Re: [Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

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Hi David 

That is a blast from the past. The fusion! It was of course a cynical takeover 
but that is so long ago now.

Am hoping for great things from the UK when the Tory government finally falls.

As ever

Gary





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[Marxism] Volume 2 John Percy's History of the Australian Socialist Workers Party

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Hi Gary,

 

I have only just managed to get a copy of this volume.  We are both
mentioned in the same para as opposing the Socialist Workers
League/Communist League fusion, along with Gwynnyth.  Percy (or Meyers)
misspelled Gwynnyth's first name though I am sure that are guilty of many
more serious crimes than that in their quest to "build the revolutionary
party."  No pictures unfortunately.

Dave Fagan

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Re: [Marxism] [UCE] Fwd: The New Left, Labor History and the Unending Echoes of 1956 | LAWCHA

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At the link is a review of several books, one of which is co-edited by our
friend Paul Flewers.


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[Marxism] [UCE] Fwd: The New Left, Labor History and the Unending Echoes of 1956 | LAWCHA

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[Marxism] pesticide suicide

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At the beginning of the 20th century infectious diseases like tuberculosis,
pneumonia, and diarrheal disease were the leading causes of death. By the
21st century mortality by infectious diseases was replaced by chronic
illnesses like heart disease, stroke, and cancer. Regrettably, there is a
pronounced trend in America. A Rand Corporation study states that 60% of
Americans have one and 40% have multiple chronic conditions. (Source:
Incidence and Prevalence of Chronic Disease, Autoimmunity Research
Foundation)

Sixty percent (60%) of Americans with a chronic condition is almost
impossible to grasp becuz it’s a mind-boggling statistic. How is this
possible? And, why so many?

The following quote from Julian Cribb’s *Surviving the 21st Century*

(Springer Int’l Publishing, Switzerland 2017) likely tells the story:

“The evidence that we ourselves— along with our descendants, potentially
for the rest of history— are at risk from the toxic flood we have unleashed
is piling up in literally tens of thousands of peer-reviewed scientific
research reports. Despite this mass of evidence, the public in most
countries is only dimly aware, or even largely unaware of what is being
done to them. The reason is twofold: First, most of these reports are
buried in scientific journals, written in the arcane and inaccessible
language used by specialists. The public may hear a little about certain
chemical categories of concern, like pesticides and food additives, or the
‘dirty dozen’ (Stockholm C0nvention 2013) industrial super-poisons, or ‘air
pollution’ in general. However, these represent only a scant few pixels in
a much larger image now amassing in the scientific literature of tens of
thousands of potentially harmful substances which are disseminating
worldwide. Second, the proportion of chemicals which have been well-tested
for human safety is quite small…” (Page 108)

In short, humanity is poisoning itself with a massive flood of chemicals
all across the world, dripping wet with toxicity, and shockingly, nobody is
really sure of the impact! Yet, there are dizzying numbers of academic
research papers, literally tens of thousands of peer-reviewed scientific
research that discuss the issue. Duh!

According to The Institute of Responsible Technology d/d May 10, 2013: “It
was ‘supposed’ to be harmless to humans and animals—the perfect weed
killer. Now a groundbreaking article just published in the journal Entropy
points to Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide, and more specifically its active
ingredient glyphosate, as devastating—possibly ‘the most important factor
in the development of multiple chronic diseases and conditions that have
become prevalent in Westernized societies. That’s right. The herbicide
sprayed on most of the world’s genetically engineered crops—and which gets
soaked into the food portion—is now linked to autism … gastrointestinal
issues such as inflammatory bowel disease, chronic diarrhea, colitis and
Crohn’s disease, obesity, cardiovascular disease, depression, cancer,
cachexia, Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease, multiple sclerosis, and
ALS, among others.” Prompting the logical question: What chronic
health-related problems are not listed?

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/12/18/pesticide-suicide/
65 minute interview - The Health Dangers of Roundup (glyphosate) Herbicide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=78=h_AHLDXF5aw
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[Marxism] Has the future of grocery shopping arrived in China?

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A little more than a year ago, Amazon announced

a
new grocery store concept that promised customers a human-less shopping
experience. Customers would simply walk in, grab the items they need, and
leave without waiting in a line or going through a checkout—letting
sensors, computer vision, and machine learning quietly do all the work to
capture, calculate, and charge you for your purchases.


With much fanfare, Amazon opened a trial store in Seattle. Then, headlines
went quiet as the company hit unexpected technical challenges, according to
the Wall Street Journal

(paywall).
Last month, speculation of Amazon Go’s rollout reignited when the company
began hiring store-related personnel

.


But Amazon’s rival JD.com, the second biggest online retailer in China
after Alibaba, has already beaten it to the punch. JD announced that, in
partnership with Hong Kong real estate developer China Overseas Land &
Investment Ltd, it plans to open hundreds of unmanned convenience stores

with
technology reportedly more advanced than Amazon’s. Its trial shops have
already been tested by the 10,000 employees at its Beijing headquarters.

https://qz.com/1157653/jd-com-will-open-hundreds-of-unmanned-convenience-stores/
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[Marxism] Save TPS - a working class struggle

[Dennis Brasky via Marxism]

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From a working-class perspective, terminating TPS would be catastrophic for
workers and families. The Center for Migration Studies
 (CMS)
has estimated that 81 to 88 percent of TPS-protected immigrants just from
El Salvador, Honduras, and Haiti participate in the labor market – well
above the rate for the total US population at 63 percent. Indeed, many TPS
workers have been in the US for so long that they’re now homeowners and
entrepreneurs, and so they are very invested in their local economies. For
example, Salvadorans with TPS must have continuously resided in the U.S.
since the designation date of March 9, 2001 – that’s more than a decade of
working legally and paying taxes in the U.S. Furthermore, the Center for
American Progress

(CAP)
calculates that the loss of TPS workers would cost employers $967 million
in turnover and reduce America’s GDP by $164 billion over a decade. Of
course, working people represent more than just economic contributions, but
you’d think that reports like these would influence rational policymakers.
But this administration operates with little regard to facts, policy briefs
by experts, or peer-reviewed research. Instead, it responds to the worst
instincts in our politics, even excusing and allying with white supremacy.
This is not rational. It is shamelessly racist.

https://workingclassstudies.wordpress.com/2017/12/18/savetps-a-working-class-struggle/
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[Marxism] Fwd: How Syria's White Helmets became victims of an online propaganda machine | World news | The Guardian

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/18/syria-white-helmets-conspiracy-theories
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: The economics of Luther or Munzer? | Michael Roberts Blog

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For a Keynesian account of the even go to

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/dec/17/heretics-welcome-economics-needs-a-new-reformation

comradely

Gary

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 11:40 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism <
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> Our protestors follow Luther, not Munzer.  They want to replace Catholic
> economics with Protestant economics, but they do not want to do away with
> the religion of capitalist economics.  They wish to correct a ‘capitalism
> distorted by finance’, not replace the mode of production and social
> relations.  Indeed, this has been the dominant position of Rethinking
> Economics as it seeks to reverse the dominance of neoclassical theory in
> the universities.
>
> The result is that there will be no revolution in economics by following
> Luther.  Indeed, our Lutheran economists have gone little further than the
> revisions to ‘neoliberal economics’ that mainstream ‘Catholic’ gurus are
> considering too.  Martin Sandbu in the FT pointed out that “economists are
> debating intensively how to upgrade their understanding of the economy in
> order to prepare better for future disruptions and provide better guides
> for good policy”.  Nobody could be more mainstream and Keynesian than
> former IMF chief economist Olivier Blanchard and former US Treasury
> secretary Larry Summers (who is related to Paul Samuelson, the pope of
> mainstream ‘neoliberal’ economics in the 1970s, according to Chick).  They
> too want to ‘rethink economics’.  Indeed, all the things advocated in the
> 33 theses are being considered by the great and good of academic economics.
>
> full: https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2017/12/16/the-econom
> ics-of-luther-or-munzer/
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