[Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: The dark side of plant-based food – it’s more about money than you may think

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I'll try those links again. Those innocuous links again.

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And
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> Spot on!

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[Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] The dark side of plant-based food – it’s more about money than you may think

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Spot on!

The abstracted idealised pro-Vegan advocacy is so often devoid of
material content. This is worsened by deploying  the tactic of
shopping choices.

"The result is that today, private interest and political prejudices
often hide behind the grandest talk of “ethical” diets and planetary
sustainability even as the consequences may be nutritional
deficiencies, biodiversity-destroying monocultures and the erosion of
food sovereignty."

"For all the warm talk, global food policy is really an alliance of
industry and capital intent on both controlling and distorting food
production. We should recall Marx’s warnings against allowing the
interests of corporations and private profit to decide what we should
eat."

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Foster's excellent contribution about Marx and food (linked to in the
article) , is another useful antidote.

Monthly Review | Marx as a Food Theorist
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Re: [Marxism] Defense Industry Gives More to Bernie Than Any 2020 Candidate | The American Conservative

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https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/bernie-gets-more-cash-from-war-inc-than-any-2020-candidate/

I hold no special brief for Bernie, but I do think this article has to 
be read critically, especially since it suggests things in its heading 
that it suggests only with significant qualifications in its content. It 
is on the whole a biased and unfair heading, as well as being in its 
totality a biased article. It is written by a defense analyst who has 
worked for both the Democrats and the Republicans. Writing this as he 
does for the American Conservative, why do I suspect he's not a Sandernista?


The headline attributes those contributions to "the defense industry." 
That's carelessly or intentionally misleading. The article seems  to 
accurately report the findings of the survey, and it is probably 
credible to the extent that it suggests that Bernie is protective of the 
economic benefits to constituents' employment prospects that result from 
keeping production of the ridiculously expensive and impracticable, “too 
big to fail” F-35 aircraft in his jurisdiction.


One comment appended to the article states "I went to the open secrets 
page and he's getting less than 1%**of his donations in 2020 from 
individual donors who work in the defense industry."


And "According to Washington Post: When not counting transfers, 77 
percent of Sanders’s fundraising this year came from donations of $200 
or less. That’s the highest share of small-dollar donations relative to 
total fundraising among all major candidates.*"*


The article acknowledges that the contributions that the headline 
implies come from industry employees and not from the defense industry 
contractors themselves. The article acknowledges that "Defense industry 
PACs, and the corrupting influence they have over compliant politicians, 
are not the source of this money...and most seem to be from engineers, 
technicians, and other non-management types." So not from owners or 
managers, but from workers, more particularly then from mid-level 
workers it would appear. It is plain enough to me that, in terms of 
total individual contributions to Bernie's campaign which presently 
exceed those made to any of the other candidates, the proportionate 
number of contributions from employees of the defense industry is at 
least as much as or more in keeping with his support from the working 
class generally, as it is a reflection of defense industry support.


Politicians, moreover, know the difference. He cannot reasonably take 
his acceptance of that support from workers as obligating him, in the 
way contributions from corporate industry create obligations to the 
politician, to support the defense industry and all it entails tout court.



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[Marxism] Impeachment hearings: One of three important steps in Trump presidency

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The impeachment hearings are the third of three key events in the Trump
presidency. The other two were his inauguration and the confirmation
hearing for Brett Kavanaugh. Each of these ramped up the politics of blind
anger and violence. Meanwhile, the Democrats are hoping that there is
sufficient faith in the old stability and cooptation to get themselves
elected one more time.

All this is the product of a disintegrating world order and of the crisis
of capitalism itself.

https://oaklandsocialist.com/2019/12/11/impeachment-hearings-one-of-three-key-events-in-trump-presidency/

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[Marxism] On John Marot’s peculiar understanding of the New Economic Policy | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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Re: [Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Material by and about Seamus Costello

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[Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Material by and about Seamus Costello

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Nora Connolly, at the time of Costello's death, remarked that he was the
only one of subsequent generations that had truly understood the politics
of her father and tried to revive them for his time.

1975 interview with Seamus on the initial attempts of the Sticks to destroy
the IRSP


Miriam Daly – successor to Seamus and murdered a few years later – on Seamus


1969 educational talk by Seamus on Democracy and the Mass Movement


Seamus Costello’s 1966 Bodenstown speech


Seamus Costello in very first issue of ‘Starry Plough’ on differences
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[Marxism] James Connolly and the "blood sacrifice"

2019-12-10 Thread Philip Ferguson via Marxism
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I wrote this some years back, but various revisionists and
pro-imperialists, including ones claiming to be left-wing, still meddle the
nonsense.


In the early 1900s the national question affected every movement for social
change in Ireland. For the labour movement, particularly those who sought
to lead it in a revolutionary direction, the national question posed the
greatest challenge. If the goal of the working class, in the view of the
revolutionaries, was a social revolution and the establishment of a
workers’ republic, how should the political question of British rule in
Ireland be approached?

Was the road forward for the workers in Ireland, a colonial possession of
an imperial power, the same as that in Britain? What was the relationship
between economic and political issues? Was the job of revolutionaries
simply to provide an analysis of capitalism and/or counsel workers to be
more militant in struggling for better wages and conditions? Was a working
class-based or, at least, working class-led, revolution possible? Given the
weakness of the working class – due to the historical underdevelopment of
capitalism in Ireland and the sectarian divisions which stemmed from this
underdevelopment – were there other social forces which could be drawn to
the workers’ side in a struggle for the revolutionary transformation of
society?

The response of Irish revolutionary socialists at the time, above all James
Connolly, has been a point of debate ever since. In particular, the rise of
historical revisionism has led to the resurrection of the theme that
Connolly abandoned. . .

full at:
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[Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Power as Savior and Destroyer of the World - COSMONAUT

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(From the brilliant Cold and Dark Stars.)

Here is where the con within the stories about global warming is 
revealed. The current narrative of climate change is sheer class power. 
Yes, the elite must acknowledge the power of the earth system to destroy 
the civilization they rule. But at the same time, they must remind their 
subjects that right now they have the highest possible standard of 
living, and that nudging the system too much would destabilize this 
standard.


In fact, it is the projection of their power that makes us addicted to 
their world.  For it is not only chemical or sexual dependency that 
their products offer, such as processed sugar, or digital porn. More 
importantly, they sell us the illusion that through their products we 
can become like them, socially recognized by the rest. The search for 
social recognition is ancient. Amongst certain small, indigenous 
egalitarian societies, “big men” try to outdo each other with gifts and 
potlatches to become honored. In modernity this impulse is channeled 
into owning larger houses, better cars, having a degree from a good 
University. They rob the children from their childhood so that someday 
they can become accomplished professionals that can be paraded in the 
deranged pageantry of the technocratic castes. Meanwhile, we all end up 
playing, touching, and caring less, for we are conned into keeping up 
with the Joneses.


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Re: [Marxism] [pen-l] On Those Questionable Jobs Numbers….Again!

2019-12-10 Thread Ralph Johansen via Marxism

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Great Employment Numbers: 44% of Fully Employed Make $18,000 a Year or Less
https://therealnews.com/stories/employment-numbers-fully-employed-low-pay-no-security


On 12/10/2019 8:14 AM, charles1848 wrote:
Doug Henwood skewered Rasmus' misunderstanding of Dept. of Labor 
unemployment stats. See

https://lbo-news.com/2019/05/06/misreading-the-latest-jobs-numbers/
and
https://lbo-news.com/2019/05/07/responding-to-rasmuss-response/


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[Marxism] My Friend and Comrade, Noel Ignatiev (1940–2019) | Insurgent Notes

2019-12-10 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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By Loren Goldner

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[Marxism] Defense Industry Gives More to Bernie Than Any 2020 Candidate | The American Conservative

2019-12-10 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/bernie-gets-more-cash-from-war-inc-than-any-2020-candidate/
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Re: [Marxism] Trump Slammed For Insisting 'Killer' Real Estate Jews Will Back Him To Save Their Wealth | HuffPost

2019-12-10 Thread Michael Meeropol via Marxism
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I think it's more subtle than that --- Trump is ALSO playing to the
anti-semitism in his (white Christian) base --- They ASSUME Jews MUST be
"loyal" to Israel so Trump calling out Jews for being insufficiently
"loyal" to Israel fits in with the anti-semitic stereotypes that Jews ARE
people with "dual loyalties" ---

The analogy to white supremacists calling whites who are allies of peoples
of color "race traitors" would be akin to a black person using that attack
to play up the argument that ALL WHITES are racists  (a debate that
rages by the way from time to time )

But I also agree that Trump is pandering to the right-wing Jewish
electorate who demand totally loyalty to whatever the Israeli government
does 




> Literally all of the Jewish groups that responded to Trump (including
> Jewish Voice for Peace) missed the point (or purposely obscured it). The
> comments about Jews being disloyal had nothing to do with anti-Jewish
> bigotry -- and notably, they were about loyalty to Israel, not the United
> States. Accusing Jews of not being loyal to a *foreign state* is hardly
> playing into the trope of dual loyalty. These comments were aimed at
> Israel's victims. If anything they were appeals to Zionism and
> Islamophobia. They are analogous to white supremacist statements that
> whites who are insufficiently racist are "race traitors," etc.
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[Marxism] Where Justice is a Game: Impeachment Hearings Redux

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http://stillhomeron.blogspot.com/2019/12/where-justice-is-game-impeachment.html

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[Marxism] The Actuality of Marx's Communism by Michael Heinrich

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[Marxism] What Green Costs

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Deep in the salt flats of Chile lies the extractive frontier of the 
renewable energy transition.


https://logicmag.io/nature/what-green-costs/
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[Marxism] Self-Defense in the Civil Rights Movement: the Lessons of Birmingham, 1963 - CounterPunch.org

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https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/12/10/self-defense-in-the-civil-rights-movement-the-lessons-of-birmingham-1963/
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[Marxism] Capitalism with Chinese Characteristics - FPIF

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By Walden Bello

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[Marxism] The Demonization of Jeremy Corbyn - CounterPunch.org

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[Marxism] How the Border Patrol Stakes Out the Spokane Bus Station

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[Marxism] 'Staggering' New Data Shows Income of Top 1% Has Grown 100 Times Faster Than Bottom 50% Since 1970 | Common Dreams News

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[Marxism] I was booted from Facebook for no discernible reason. Is it time to rein in the massive power it wields? – Alternet.org

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