[Marxism] Marxism] Jeremy Corbyn and the Crisis of Anti-Semitism

2018-09-23 Thread Matthew Harvey via Marxism
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Anti-Semitism propagated by the British State? What institutions are you 
talking about? Please cite examples. (Be clear though, bc every day Corbyn and 
his allies, who are outside the state, are attacked by institutions close to 
the state for anti-Semitism or allowing it to flourish.) How do you get from 
arguing that a few Labour outliers are masking anti-Semitism in anti-Zionist 
rhetoric or in the Livingstone quote, realpolitik, to arguments about the 
British State? 

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[Marxism] Subject: The “Final Offensive” In Syria by Putin and Assad

2018-09-15 Thread Matthew Harvey via Marxism
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These pieces bring to mind Robert Fisk’s first hand reportage in the Indy from 
a few days ago. He makes so definitive claims but says he saw no signs of 
massed armies around Idlib. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/voices/syria-last-battle-idlib-robert-fisk-latest-a8530796.html%3famp

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Re: [Marxism] Syria: Assad threatens Idlib while Afrin resists Turkish occupation (Green Left Weekly)

2018-09-14 Thread Matthew Harvey via Marxism
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> There are no “jihadists linked to al-Qaida” in Idlib, as anyone free of 
> post-9/11 “war on
> terror” ideology is well aware[.] 

I have nothing to say to anyone who says “there are no jihadists linked to” 
Al-Qaeda. Would you be more comfortable with the term Islamist or Salafist? As 
for the idea that jihadists are in Al-Qaeda or Al-Nusra (“HTS”) prisons for 
being jihadists, it is utterly surreal. Next thing you’ll be telling us that 
the Salafists are really misunderstood social democrats. 

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> On Sep 14, 2018, at 1:15 AM, mkaradjis  wrote:
> 
> “This BBC article claims that the numbers of just Uighars numbers
> between 7,000 and 10,000 depending on the source. Of other ethnic
> fighters they say a “high concentration.”
> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-45401474”.
> 
> That article, dated September 2018, also made the claim that
> “thousands have taken up arms against the government, including
> jihadists linked to al-Qaeda.” To have some credibility, media such as
> the BBC should at least keep up to date. There are no “jihadists
> linked to al-Qaida” in Idlib, as anyone free of post-9/11 “war on
> terror” ideology is well aware, unless they mean the handful of
> pro-Qaida, ex-Nusra folk in Hurras al-Din, many of whom are in HTS
> prisons.
> 
> Anyway, the article quotes Assadist MP Fares Shehabi that there are
> 10,000 Uighars in Idlib. Not sure if you consider a regime hack a
> credible source, but based on his assertion that there are 100,000
> “al-Qaida-linked” militants, my tendency would be to divide anything
> he says by about 100.
> 
> As for the “war on terror” style AFP article:
> 
> “This AFP article gives the number of just Uighar fighters (as opposed
> to them and their “families”) between 1 and several thousand. It also
> mentions high concentrations of Chechens.
> https://www.afp.com/en/news/23/foreign-fighters-syrias-idlib-face-last-stand-doc-18x6wz1”.
> 
> The BBC article said “several thousand” including their families. So
> about 1000 fighters is probably about right. It also corresponds
> better to what we hear on the ground. There are not exactly daily
> reports of huge numbers of Uighar fighters, though here and there
> there is reference to the TIP. Certainly nothing in the order of
> either HTS or its opponents.
> 
> Most estimates put HTS strength at about 10,000 fighters (that is also
> the number given in the BBC article by UN's special envoy for Syria,
> Staffan de Mistura, who erroneously claimed they were “associated with
> al-Qaeda.”
> 
> However, referring to these numbers, Ahmad Abazeid, a Turkey-based
> Syrian analyst, “says that figure is an exaggeration and the fighters
> number only a few thousand.”
> https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/09/looming-battle-idlib-180908142026400.html
> 
> I’m not sure who is correct, but one thing for sure is that Nusra
> numbers were never estimated as any higher than 10,000, though given
> that HTS is a coalition of Nusra (now JFS) with 5 very small groups
> (not all jihadist), Lister’s 12,000 figure may be correct, but again I
> would urge caution given Abazeid’s analysis.
> 
> Overwhelmingly, these are Syrians, because when Nusra (now the core of
> HTS) and ISIS split in 2013, there was a very heavy divide between
> foreign fighters (overwhelmingly went with ISIS) and local fighters
> (overwhelmingly with Nusra); after all, Nusra resulted from a
> “Syrianisation” of this otherwise foreign invader force from Iraq.
> However, there are a small number of foreign fighters with HTS, mostly
> Arabs.
> 
> Nearly all other armed groups in Greater Idlib (ie, Idlib, southern
> and western Aleppo province, northern Hama and Latakia) are part of
> the National Front for Liberation (NFL) coalition, which includes the
> Free Idlib Army, which is itself a coalition of the major FSA groups
> in Idlib, and the Victory Army (Jaysh al-Nasr), another FSA coalition
> based in northern Hama. The NFL also includes Islamist groups like
> Ahrar al-Sham and many others.
> 
> According to Abazeid, “NFL is the biggest force [in Idlib] in terms of
> numbers and geographical presence and weaponry.” Most sources suggest
> it has some 30,000 fighters (some estimates are as high as 70,000).
> According to the article quoting Abazeid, he “also cast doubt on those
> estimates.” But the quote from him “casting doubt” is merely “But NFL
> is a local formation, not an organised army, and therefore it's
> difficult to estimate its numbers.”
> 
> That is very true: it is local; it is somewhat decentralised precisely
> because it is based directly in the communities and villages (as are
> most HTS cadre); 

Re: [Marxism] Syria: Assad threatens Idlib while Afrin resists Turkish occupation (Green Left Weekly)

2018-09-13 Thread Matthew Harvey via Marxism
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This BBC article claims that the numbers of just Uighars numbers between 7,000 
and 10,000 depending on the source. Of other ethnic fighters they say a “high 
concentration.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-45401474

This AFP article gives the number of of just Uighar fighters (as opposed to 
them and their “families”) between 1 and several thousand. It also mentions 
high concentrations of Chechens. 

https://www.afp.com/en/news/23/foreign-fighters-syrias-idlib-face-last-stand-doc-18x6wz1

So I think “thousands” was a reasonable number. Now can you answer my question 
please? 

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> On Sep 13, 2018, at 10:00 PM, mkaradjis  wrote:
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> "thousands of foreign jihadists holed up in Idlib"
> Matt, do you mind providing sources for this piece of (mis)information?
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:41 AM Matt Harvey via Marxism
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>> "The YPG is a mercenary offering its services to the highest
>> bidder."
>> 
>> I'm agnostic verging on doubtful on the question of whether the Kurds
>> represent a truly revolutionary force. (The Scoop Jackson's Society's
>> trashing them is a vote in their favor though.)
>> 
>> But referring to any indigenous Syrian force as mercenaries when their are
>> thousands of foreign jihadists holed up in Idlib is either active hypocrisy
>> or political projection. In your framework are they like the
>> Internationalists who fought in Spain? I'm truly curious as to what armed
>> faction you think does represent the "revolutionary masses in Syria" and
>> who backs them.
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