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The fact that one was published in June and the other November is significant; that is roughly the time period in which it became clear to all (well, almost all) that the Podemos leadership was intending to follow the liberal trajectory of Syriza's tops. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > Socialist Worker newspaper (ISO) > > The success of Podemos is good news for socialists and workers. Although > there is still debate about how strong the class basis of its vote was, > Podemos' program has a clear focus on both labor issues and social issues > that affect the working class--for example, opposition to the latest labor > law reforms imposed by the PP and PSOE, support for a ban on workers being > fired from profitable companies, and a proposal to suspend all foreclosures > and create a public housing program for evicted families. These measures > would mean a great improvement in the lives of workers if implemented. > > http://secure-web.cisco.com/13tKxsfenzuDKa2aAqiAXFROOU5j_gdRHRKoS_LUtblEqD3axz5W6_5ZVvfIKAuZ_9hz7Lp4tnq7pJyu7Wbj94L9hNPKwlIifC6zqnEYLqKQuFg3fPZg9RuFHDMrgDC3J0xUBbMQcEuM-iOi0wDecY9KFCSzGsLVzcSW8obFQX0iWvkaQCbYcETd_OLsctSGNnDnOl9_S5r4acn5NxonoLnihXrGq1VhypkXhpLaiO-M/http%3A%2F%2Fsocialistworker.org%2F2014%2F06%2F18%2Fthe-rise-of-podemos > > --- > > Socialist Worker Newspaper (British SWP, which stands for the Sectarian > Woebegone Party) > > The leaders of Podemos and Syriza want to replace the people in government > with others who they argue would do a better job. > > But power doesn’t stop with the people in office. Elected governments are > still part of a capitalist state that is made up of powerful unelected > bureaucracies, not to mention the police and the army. > > They are part of the class which owns the factories, supermarkets and the > media. > > Much of Podemos’ rhetoric is about kicking out the “caste” at the top, > while Jones stops at taking on a vague “establishment”. > > But if these were replaced by Labour left wingers or even by Podemos, real > power would remain with the bosses and their state. > > The ruling class is rarely completely united, especially in times of > crisis. But the state and capitalists rely on one another. > > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1XM1iKYX2L5ukqHuB4Y7M2aKXdYmZtMA0kaCjN7L3qUhMEjtj34p-Eqf6MFuXluazxabty3JT_Rp__hpyC85EHlsIRhMu1F0oZvW8G4wDP-29pnuYip2cZIbBV3rmfc1PuSPrXmJoS8z-jCG9fWNqyUQEW10atxhxXqCvOmsD0shd-Mx06FuUpLU05F1kpWQjWrkG7f8maeFLcUcRn5vhRg/http%3A%2F%2Fsocialistworker.co.uk%2Fart%2F39431%2FIs%2Bthe%2Bleft%2B > breaking+through+in+Europe%3F > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1c4eWojO8tMSBBDD2eb7TRSilB2U3LsYovUokzOeb_bx_IVPc09FdeqCJCT2ZIsUKAOKQcbQZmbx3e1K55W7up02-NR1JLdt6AemkBWoEnpV9MwzGDbWqPMSVVGl6cJFF1x0cZ6JoefHsaaxgbEuvh2HoRUxVl55nkexgCkeK8fbYumSEwx8fAAsprwgNtlVSryTZyZGhH2I2zfhVxjy-UJMgbTkfs9Ub_99csk3WXfc/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marxmail.org%2Fsub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/ > options/marxism/acpollack2%40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
