Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders on Fidel Castro and Cuban communism at debate

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On 3/10/16 4:34 PM, Mark Grueter wrote:

He has disavowed other things he had previously said. For instance, he once 
argued the CIA should be abolished. They asked him about it recently, and he 
said he no longer had the same view. So it would seem that his view on Castro 
has not changed; otherwise it would've been politically much smarter for him to 
say what he really thinks. As for Chavez, it's not possible to be more critical 
of the Bolivarian state (especially with what's happening these days) than of 
Castro?

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From: "Louis Proyect" 
To: "Mark Grueter" , "Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition" 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:21:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders on Fidel Castro and Cuban communism at 
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On 3/10/16 3:11 PM, Mark Grueter via Marxism wrote:


He said them again last night in the debate, and didn't back down from the 
comments he made in the 80's. I think that was the point.


Well, of course. How could he disavow what he said? That would make him
look like an opportunist. Of course, there still is that puzzling
discrepancy between what he said about Castro and Chavez.


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Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders on Fidel Castro and Cuban communism at debate

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On 3/10/16 3:11 PM, Mark Grueter via Marxism wrote:


He said them again last night in the debate, and didn't back down from the 
comments he made in the 80's. I think that was the point.


Well, of course. How could he disavow what he said? That would make him 
look like an opportunist. Of course, there still is that puzzling 
discrepancy between what he said about Castro and Chavez.

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Re: [Marxism] Bernie Sanders on Fidel Castro and Cuban communism at debate

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"Because he said these things about Cuba before he had become housebroken."

He said them again last night in the debate, and didn't back down from the 
comments he made in the 80's. I think that was the point.

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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:43:22 -0500
From: Louis Proyect 
To: Sheldon Ranz ,   activists and scholars in
Marxist tradition 
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On 3/10/16 12:33 PM, Sheldon Ranz wrote:
> How can he be so reasonable on Cuba but condemn Hugo Chavez as a
> communist tyrant?
>

Because he said these things about Cuba before he had become housebroken.

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