[Marxism] Greece what now?
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * The curse (of needing to make a prediction) has come upon me (yet again). My reading of the entrails is influenced by Krugman, Galbraith and above all by Alan Kohler's comment. The latter, a regular on Australian TV, said that YES would prevail because there was no alternative. I am inclined to think he genuinely believed that. But NO has triumphed and so an alternative must emerge and fairly quickly too. Merkel, Juncker, Gabriel, Schauble, Draghi, Lagarde and Hollande all have egg and worse on their face. For them the unthinkable has happened. They have allowed a political drama to develop and what was designed to be an object lesson for the Irish, the Spaniards, the Portuguese and the Italians has achieved the exact opposite. I can sense the stink of fear from all of the pro-austerity governments. Merkel & Co will either toughen their stance, as Gabriel seems to have suggested, or retreat. More harshness would mean that the current politicization of the masses will continue. A crisis of legitimization might ensue with unpredictable consequences. So what is my prediction? They will retreat. All they have to do is to accept Syriza's compromise offer. Tsirpas has shown himself willing to retreat. It was just that Merkel and co got too far ahead of themselves and went for the big prizes, regime change and the crushing of the anti-austerity movement. Watch Kevin Kostner's awful film *Draft Day* to get an idea of what they thought they were doing. If I read the entrails correctly, Krugman and Galbraith offer a way out. A retreat to moderate Keynesianism is on the cards. Everything will be done to return to business as usual. Bruised egos aside, a renewed attack on Greece puts the whole bloody system in danger. I suspect that somewhere behind the scenes the Americans are handing out sedatives to the European leaders and advising a fall back. What this means for the anti-austerity movement is hard to predict (that word again!). Obviously, it has had a tremendous victory. & may be we should just enjoy that for the moment. comradely Gary _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Greece: what now?
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * This is a correct analysis. I agree. vg > Il giorno 15/mar/2015, alle ore 19:23, Dayne Goodwin via Marxism > ha scritto: > > > > good commentary, conclusion: > > "Contrariwise to those who are getting ready to betray and leave the > Greek people to their fate, crying about a “great betrayal of SYRIZA” > we must keep a close eye on the Greek events which are really full of > lessons to be learned for all of us and, just like in the past, we > have to express our full solidarity to the Greek people, in spite of > the many limitations of the Tsipras government." > > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:04 AM, Newsletter Anti-imperialist Camp > wrote: >> The arrogant outcry of many anti-euro people about a “great betrayal” >> concerning to the agreement signed by Tsipras government is irritating and >> risible. >> >> >> I don’t think that the SYRIZA leaders, although they support Europeanism (we >> have to remember that the old SYNASPISMOS, the actual executive core of >> SYRIZA , in 1992 voted the Maastricht Treaty) can exclude to take the >> possibility of a breaking-off with of the Eurozone into account. >> >> Only a >> fool could think that from now to August the relationships inside European >> Union can change. They will not change. If those “staunch Europeanist” have >> ears, let them hear. >> >> So what sort of “B plan” do Tsipras and Varoufakys have? >> >> by Moreno Pasquinelli >> >> http://www.antiimperialista.org/node/244670 >> >> >> _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Greece: what now?
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * good commentary, conclusion: "Contrariwise to those who are getting ready to betray and leave the Greek people to their fate, crying about a “great betrayal of SYRIZA” we must keep a close eye on the Greek events which are really full of lessons to be learned for all of us and, just like in the past, we have to express our full solidarity to the Greek people, in spite of the many limitations of the Tsipras government." On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:04 AM, Newsletter Anti-imperialist Camp wrote: > The arrogant outcry of many anti-euro people about a “great betrayal” > concerning to the agreement signed by Tsipras government is irritating and > risible. > > They just take as valid the narration of pro-euro mass media which in their > turn repeat and amplify the German version, that is intended to prove that > the Greek government signed the terms of unilateral surrender. But it is not > just that! It’s evident that they are so much blind with their conceit to > point the finger at the victims and not at the torturers. The moral of the > story is that, in their opinion, Euro-Germany scored a massive victory and, > furthermore, the Greek matter would be closed, deleted. > > I don’t think that the SYRIZA leaders, although they support Europeanism (we > have to remember that the old SYNASPISMOS, the actual executive core of > SYRIZA , in 1992 voted the Maastricht Treaty) can exclude to take the > possibility of a breaking-off with of the Eurozone into account. > > They hoped they could break up the Euro-German bloc but on the contrary they > were cornered and found themselves isolated. They aimed at “changing Europe > “ but their plan were proved to be ambitious and even impossible. Only a > fool could think that from now to August the relationships inside European > Union can change. They will not change. If those “staunch Europeanist” have > ears, let them hear. > > So what sort of “B plan” do Tsipras and Varoufakys have? > > by Moreno Pasquinelli > > http://www.antiimperialista.org/node/244670 > > > > Anti-imperialist Camp > www.antiimperialista.org > c...@antiimperialista.org > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
