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> On Jul 30, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Jeff via Marxism wrote: > > > > Oh how extremely interesting: Shane has identified another > > businessman/politician on the right fringe of establishment politics > > [Shane Mage] Where do you find the US defined as "the warfare state" within > establishment politics, "fringe" or not? > > > who comes to the defense of Putin... Stockman identifies his stand on Ukraine with that of the rightist Pat Buchanan, and his basic idea is that whatever happens in Ukraine has nothing to do with "our national security" (i.e. the interests of US imperialism), while whatever happens in Ukraine is a matter of Putin's "legitimate geo-political business". (See "My thoughts On Pat Buchanan´s Brilliant And Incisive Take On Washington´s Ukrainian Fiasco" by David Stockman at http://www.theburningplatform.com/tag/david-stockman/) > > Where do you see Stockman referring to Putin as anything other than > the head of a gangster state comparable to his enemies' ? > Maybe (I am not familiar with all of Stockman's writings), but he regards that such gangsters and "gangster states" have "legitimate geo-political interests". There are differences among the US imperialists and their ideologues over the stand on foreign policy. The enthusiasm on the part of certain would-be anti-imperialists over the stands of Stockman and other imperialist ideologues who differ with current US policy over what best protects US imperialist interests is indeed revealing. It shows the hollowness of such supposed anti-imperialism. It shows that such supposed anti-imperialism has no progressive content and nothing to do with the interest of the working class. Stockman and similar ideologues have no concern for the Ukrainian people: let their fate be decided by the rivalary of the imperialist states and by which sphere of influence they are in. He asks why should Americans care? His argument is that it isn't our sphere of influence, but theirs. That is not anti-imperialism, but diehard cynical imperialism and "realistic politics". That is not internationalism, but American bourgeois nationalism. True anti-imperialism starts with the interests of the working people of the world: it doesn't orient itself on the basis of the "legitimate geo-political interests" of rival "gangster states". -- Joseph Green ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
