Re: [Marxism] The Misconception about Baby Boomers and the Sixties | The New Yorker

2019-08-19 Thread Michael Meeropol via Marxism
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Everyone who was of "college age" between 1965 (when the first major
anti-war demonstrations occurred --- the year of the Selma to Montgomery
March) and 1975 (whenever you want to date the end of "the sixties") was
born after 1945 --- it was young people (in the South they were even
younger, think of the children being arrested in Birmingham in 1963) who
were the participants in the Civil Rights and Anti-War movements (as well
as most of the draftees who served in Vietnam after the US escalation) ---
So Menard is engaged in a bit of sleight of hand by emphasizing those who
had the cameras and microphones beginning in the early and mid 1960s ---

I think the reason people (journalists, historians, etc.?) made such a big
deal about the baby boom is not just its size but the transformatio of
American culture and society that occurred during their time of adulthood
(1965-1990s --???) --- I mean the changes for women and the LGBTQ
communities are still going on -- that those changes began with the early
sparks of "women's liberation" and Stonewall ---


 Angelus Novus via Marxism  wrote:

The article is no doubt correct, but on the other hand, I think it would be
fair to say that young boomers were substantially involved in 1970s labor
struggles such as the wildcat at Dodge Truck in 1974, or the 1972 Lordstown
Strike.  A few authors have pointed out that it wasn't until "the 70s" that
"the 60s" had reached the industrial working class, and it's undoubtedly
the case that many of those workers were young boomers.


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Re: [Marxism] The Misconception about Baby Boomers and the Sixties | The New Yorker

2019-08-19 Thread Ken Hiebert via Marxism
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https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-misconception-about-baby-boomers-and-the-sixties
 


Menard makes some good points.  Let’s start with the point that you cannot 
characterize a whole generation.  We could identify many different trends among 
young people, some of them distinctly conservative and reactionary.  But it 
remains the case that a large number of baby boomers were open to radical ideas.

Menard presents us with an impressive list of people who came to prominence in 
the 60’s, but were born as far back as 1920 (or in the case of Dr. Seuss, 
1904).  But if a different trend were dominant among young people, many of 
those names would be unknown to us today.

A personal note.  Sometimes the difference of a few years makes for very 
different experiences.  A cousin just a few years older than me contracted 
polio (briefly).  Born in 1945, I was one off the who benefitted from Dr. 
Salk’s vaccine.

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Re: [Marxism] The Misconception about Baby Boomers and the Sixties | The New Yorker

2019-08-19 Thread Angelus Novus via Marxism
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The article is no doubt correct, but on the other hand, I think it would be 
fair to say that young boomers were substantially involved in 1970s labor 
struggles such as the wildcat at Dodge Truck in 1974, or the 1972 Lordstown 
Strike.  A few authors have pointed out that it wasn't until "the 70s" that 
"the 60s" had reached the industrial working class, and it's undoubtedly the 
case that many of those workers were young boomers.
Generational distinctions are sort of arbitrary and meaningless anyway.  


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[Marxism] The Misconception about Baby Boomers and the Sixties | The New Yorker

2019-08-19 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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Louis Menand argues that most of the important political and literary 
figures of the 1960s were not boomers since they were born before the 
war ended. I guess technically that includes me and Michael Meeropol as 
well.


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