Re: [Marxism] Marx wine quote
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Saint Paul-"Take a little wine for thy stomachs sake" George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Marx wine quote
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Marx to the aid of the wine industry This gives a new angle to Marxist economics George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Obama Isn't Spineless, He's Conservative
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == But again, what is your alternative Your presentation offers no way out George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Obama Isn't Spineless, He's Conservative
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The republicans will show you there is worse on January 1st George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Moderator's note
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Isn't this a positive sign of resistance along with the UK student demonstrations. plus the attack on the royals? George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Obama Isn't Spineless, He's Conservative
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The problem with negative criticism of Obama, is that the alternative is worse In that sense I agree with US Communist Party assessment FDR, was a reactionary but had a mass movement pushing him Obama hasn't George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The Kettle
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Absolutely The conditions for revolution are ripening The students, WikLeaks, Lib Dems fiasco and the royalty imbroglio All part of the quantitative process Right now I am reading "Lenin's Political Thought" by Neil Harding Boning up on how to do it George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The Kettle
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times" George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The Kettle
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Take a medal for heroism But there will be more of this Street fighting is part of the struggle for power But in UK conditions, it will be expressed through the ballot box A combination of extra-parliamentary and parlimentary struggle George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Flash: Royal convoy attacked as English students revolt
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The attack on royalty, was astonishing to them, never been done since victorian times George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Marxism Digest, Vol 83, Issue 60
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The British Labour Party is not a working class party but merely the party of the working class George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] smarmy and egregious Milliband brothers
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == This because the PLP is dominated by Blairite placemen, that only avenue of nomination used to prevent a left nomination George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] smarmy and egregious Milliband brothers
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Dont underestimate what Marx said When an idea seizes the masses it becomes a material force George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] smarmy and egregious Milliband brothers
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The Labour Party, founded on the unions has been in existence for over a 100 years Othe parties, notably the ILP and the Communist Party have tried to replace it as the party of the working class but failed They are only party to garner as many as 16 million votes against the Tories Try as they may, the detractors have failed to undermine this role The answer is to radicalise it from within There is no alternative George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] World in Revolt: The Global Backlash Against Budget Cuts
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The FT reports that Miliband D has been offered the Chancellors job That could be an offer he must refuse Ed Balls is a must for me with his Keynsian policies George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Analysis of Miliband election
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Many thanks George Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Analysis of Miliband election
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Having worked in the AEU battling right wing forces, backed by anti-communism since 1956 I understand the remarks you made That is why I greet with some pleasure, yesterdays result Tony Benn was beaten by Healey by less than 1% This is the first time since 1945 at least, that the establishment candidate has been beaten It cannot be anything but a significant advance George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Analysis of Miliband election
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == This is a defeatist line which gives no credit to the hard work put into the campaign by genuine left forces, faced with a difficult choice that does not deserve to be dismissed George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Reading Keats
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == His name is writ in water Isabella and the pot of Basil etc George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Not Marxist? [was Re: Illustrate Me]
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == If you dont fall for the hocus pocus of religion, its a good read George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Lenin on imperialist and oppressed nations
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Lenin's Political Thought by Neil Harding deals with all these complications in great detail George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] What If? Lenin and Trotsky: When to hold, when to fold.
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == This is all true Trotsky's role was marginal and eventually destructive Apart from his positive leadership of the Red Army, which he greatly over-exaggerated when believing they could defeat the German Army, rather than as Lenin insisted to agree the terms of the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, land which was subsequently recovered after WW2 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Cuba headed in the same direction as China and Vietnam?
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == No knowledge or no record of Trotskty He wasnt in the frame until the late 1917's and very much junior and a Menshevik to boot Supplement Japanese Communist Party Central Committee Chair Fuwa Tetsuzo lecture on “Lenin and the Market Economy” Chinese Academy of Social Sciences in Beijing August 27th 2002. £2 inc. postage & http://www.jcp.or.jp/english/jps_weekly/ 2002-0827-fuwa.html Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Cuba headed in the same direction as China and Vietnam?
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Finally taking Lenin's model 90 years on Sign of confidence George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] How "sex scamdal" culture victimizes women (yes, even rich women)
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Read Engels "Origin of the Family" which relates how women were reduced in society by the accumulation of property Prior to that women were dominant as parentage could only be traced through them Earth Mothers sanctified this basic economic idea Women have taken years to overcome that, particularly in so-called developed countries In backward countries, it is even worse, through female circumcision for instance In India, 70% of which is rural, women rise before dawn to ablout George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Trotsky's Jewish Question
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Good Good Good George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fidel Castro fascinated by book on Bilderberg Club
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The ruling class are capable of anything Sareyavo Pearl Harbour Kennedy's assassination 9/11 George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fidel Castro fascinated by book on Bilderberg Club
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == There is a Bilderberg Group, they meet annually, Dennis Healy was it George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] self-indulgence
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Man created god, not the other way round George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Churchill's Empire
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Superb stuff, the collective spirit reigned supreme and had to be rolled back by Fulton and McCarthyism George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Churchill's Empire
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Yes but his prime motivation was preserving the Empire He refused to give up India until Montgomery told him it could only be held down by a million troops Incidentally Indian liberation was triggered by the mutiny of the Indian navy George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Spain Reign, but what impact has the World Cup left on South Af...
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Spain beat the Netherlands 1-0, the eighth nation to win the World Cup Eight of the Spanish team are Catalans or play for Barcelona The first 90 minutes was a horror to watch for the 300mn neutral viewers, yet the dirty Dutch delivered a perfect performance in a masterclass on how to combat a better team Seven Dutch players were booked and one sent off and five Spanish Nelson Mandela appeared in the closing ceremony George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] My friend Richard Greener's take on the World Cup
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Nevertheless, some advances were made George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] A question to mathematicians on this list
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Lot of metaphysical nonsense George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] My friend Richard Greener's take on the World Cup
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Holland politically represents reaction, and their dirty playing reflected that Spain with their brilliant passing deserved to win But South Africa were the real winners in the organisation of the whole World Cup George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] new blog post: growth! growth! growth!
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Their Achilles heel is surplus value which they don't understand It leads to overproduction, unemployment and revolution George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Gulf oil spill: A Hole in the World
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == New York Times Supplement A relentless hunt for whale oil, then petroleum, pushed man farther and deeper The unpredictable forces of nature rear up, and death and destruction follow in the wake, "Some fell flat on their faces", an eyewitness reported of the stricken crew. Through the breach, they heard the waters pour"-Moby Dick Parallels between the rig explosion in the gulf and "Moby Dick" illuminates man's limits to harness nature Whaling was the petroleum industry in the 18th and 19th century George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Max Blumenthal reports on Israeli planning prior to attack on G...
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == UN has voted to investigate the killing of nine aboard the Gaza bound ship Series of Israeli blunders attributed to the cabinet's military background The Gaza flotilla assault places Israel's decision-makers under scrutiny Financial Times 3/6/2010 George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Krugman on Corp and Repugs
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The ruling class will never solve the problem of Surplus Value George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Dalai Lama: I am a Marxist
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == You believe that you'll believe anything George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] British Election
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Yes, but note the Lib Dem/Tory split that let her in by 42 votes, a most unexpected result The best result for me was the dumping of Peter Robinson, the Northern Ireland First Minister A bigot if ever there was one George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] British Election
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Again the pessimism of the ultra left Please note the left MPs votes held up Jeremy Corbyn increased his majority in Islington North by 12,401 to 24,276 Emily Thornbury was re-elected in Islington South John McDonnell increased his majority in Hayes and Harlington to 10,824 Kelvin Hopkins obtained a 7,500 majority in Luton South Glenda Jackson in Hampstead won by 42 votes, after the Lib Dems and Tories split the anti Labour vote Diane Abbot re-elected in North Hackney with 14,500 majority Karen Buck elected in Westminster North (a new constituency) George Anthony campaigned for Jeremy Corbyn and Karen Buck Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Tariq Ali: Obama, president of cant
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Brevity is the soul of wit That is one of Tariq Ali's problems He is a windbag Not realising that the more you say gives the opposition more openings George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Tariq Ali: Obama, president of cant
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == This is the apotheosis of the pessismism of the ultra-left, Tariq Ali's stock in trade George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Another view of the health care legislation
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Is this the pessimism of the ultra-left at work? George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Islip Political Newsletter for February
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Keeping track of imperialist rule in all its’ guises George Anthony on the ups and downs of the road to Socialism In the absence of the Financial Times to précis and mail out, I quoted Tom Paine’s “The world is my nation, to do good my religion” for my New Year’ s message. Unfortunately it came back to bite me in the shape of the election results in Chile and Massachusetts. With the former in the shape of billionaire Pinera, bringing his entourage of Pinochet neoliberal economists with him, to undo two decades of work by progressive presidents. The two million Democrat party voters staying away to deliver the senate seat into the hands of a former Cosmopolitan magazine centre-fold nude model, thus putting Obama’s healthcare bill in jeopardy. The third disaster was not man made, but the Haitian earthquake made much more horrendous than the earlier Chinese earthquake where the victims were rescued and rehabilitated by the central government, led by China’s Prime Minister; but by man in the shape of American imperialism, that had made the country a basket case for years, and making sure that as with the earlier Katrina hurricane, any advantage that could be extracted from the disaster would be maximised by the “rescuers”. It’s worth remembering briefly a history of Haiti and the subsequent events that reduced this benighted country to its basket case condition. Haiti was the most prosperous colony of all the French possessions during the period of slavery. The production of sugar, coffee, and other agricultural products brought tremendous profits to the colonial landowners on the island of Hispaniola, which today encompasses both the Dominican Republic and Haiti. At the time of the uprising on August 14, 1791, which was led by Boukmans, there were over 500,000 African slaves and thousands more free blacks and people of mixed race. During the rebellion of 1791, over 200 sugar plantations, 600 coffee plantations, 200 indigo plantations were liberated by the Haitian masses. It has been recorded that 12,000 people died during this period including 2,000 European settlers. The imperialist-imposed policies directed towards Haiti, which has underdeveloped the country for over two centuries, are at the root cause of poverty and unemployment. The collapse of the agricultural sector derives from the neo-colonial policies designed to preserve the country as a vast reservoir of cheap labour for the capitalist corporations operating in the country. With the erosion of agricultural production in the rural areas, the masses were forced to re-locate in the urban centres which have resulted in tremendous overcrowding along with an acute shortage of housing. With the earthquake of such magnitude and the efforts of the U.S. to dominate the relief efforts, poverty will inevitably increase in Haiti. What is the point of tracking these events, you may ask, particularly the outcome of voting, or for that matter, any manifestation of mass expression, be it at the ballot box, consumer spending, attendance at sports events, TV viewing figures, demonstrations, meeting and strikes, indeed any worthwhile survey? It is because they are all an invaluable indication of the mood of the population in response to media manipulation, that being the first line of defence of capitalism. However when the defence of deception is breeched as it ultimately will be, then the next line of defence is destruction and murder. For instance, ranging from the Amaritsa massacre - the British troops only stopped when they ran out of ammunition. The Holocaust - the Nazi’s only stopped when they lost World War Two. And the American atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki - they only stopped when the Soviet Union got nuclear weaponry. I give three, further examples, not as murderous but equally ruthless, that have escaped the notice of the media over the years in the shape of the Daily Mail or indeed the BBC with its 16 million viewers. As not being sufficiently newsworthy enough for your average punter, diverted by chat shows, general media trivia, drugs, booze and gambling. First, UK exporters would have greater freedom to use child workers and even forced labour abroad under a policy reversal floated by the Export Credits Guarantee Department, which is proposing to ease tight standards on underage workers that it adopted six years ago after a political outcry. Second, it is under Bush’s disastrous tenure that health insurance premiums nearly doubled for the average US family and the number of uninsured skyrocketed. Under him the deficit spiralled out of control as an unnecessary and endless $3,000bn war in
Re: [Marxism] What's the matter with the Democrats?
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == What is your solution? George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Books on the First International
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Now there is an excellent man Chairman of the CPUSA Leader of the Pittsburg Steel Strike Imprisoned and thrown down a pit with twelve madmen who he calmed George Anthony In a message dated 10/01/2010 17:18:54 GMT Standard Time, ipoulo...@gmail.com writes: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == History of the Three Internationals, William Z. Foster 2010/1/10 Joonas Laine > == > Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > == > > > Hi, > > any recommendations for good histories of the First International..? I > know about the Stekloff book on MIA, but I was looking for something > that I could read on paper, and perhaps something that's more recent as > well. > > Thanks! > > > Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu > Set your options at: > http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/ipoulos69%40gmail.com > -- Chris Mais Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/midhurst14%40aol.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Books on the First International
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Karl Marx was the secretary of the First International George Anthony In a message dated 10/01/2010 17:08:31 GMT Standard Time, jjo...@nic.fi writes: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Hi, any recommendations for good histories of the First International..? I know about the Stekloff book on MIA, but I was looking for something that I could read on paper, and perhaps something that's more recent as well. Thanks! Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/midhurst14%40aol.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] circ foolishness
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == It is still a vile practice as it deprives women of an orgasm George Anthony In a message dated 10/01/2010 14:16:43 GMT Standard Time, tom400...@yahoo.ca writes: Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The "Heroic" Charm of the Bourgeoisie
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Published & printed by the ISLIP UNITY GROUP. 13e Porchester Sq., Paddington W2 6AN Phone & Fax 020 7229 5831 Join the e-mail list for regular news items at midhurs...@aol.com Eleven Newsletters for a £5 Annual Subscription.&Email delivery online available. Best news from China and Al Jazeera The bourgeoisie…….has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his “natural superiors”, and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous “cash payment”-Communist Manifesto George Anthony Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Have a happy and merry December 25
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Seasons greetings with the ubiquitous message The bourgeoisie…….has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his “natural superiors”, and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous “cash payment”-Communist Manifesto George Anthony In a message dated 25/12/2009 12:07:48 GMT Standard Time, farmela...@juno.com writes: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Today, as the world pauses on the birthday of one of history's greatest men, whose teachings continue to benefit the entire human race, let us join in toasting the memory of Sir Isaac Newton, and of all the giants on whose shoulders he stood. Jim Farmelant Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=ebxJW8tgEy7tFtQ3G1s-0AAAJ1BRug I4sJACAWmXIev8NAFPAAYAAADNAAAYQAA= Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/midhurst14%40aol.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The CP is Still Ga-Ga
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == It is easier to attack the Communists than it is to attack the employers George Anthony In a message dated 23/12/2009 12:18:48 GMT Standard Time, dgn.g...@googlemail.com writes: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == 2009/12/23 Mark Lause : '"America I will sell you strophes $2500 apiece $500 down on your old strophe." Philosophers, at least, solve the world, even if they aren't about changing it. This does not to that. None of the historical analogies made here hold any water whatsoever. The circumstances are far different than when mass protests pressured FDR...who invariably gets trotted out like a talisman rather than a materialist argument. Rather like Glen Beck mentioning Tom Paine. And the LBJ analogy is simply mind-boggling. There are nothing fresh among the indigestible ingredients in this tripe stew. You eat it when you have no options." Doğan == Well, well, Mark, your everyday understanding, the simplest form of thought, and the complexity of the world. From everyday understanding's point of view science/philosophy would go on its head, as already Hegel observed, one of the greatest thinkers as Karl Marx asserted. Thank you bringing the whole debate to the point. Indeed the whole debate about CPUSA is about scientific/philosophical view of politics or everyday understanding of politics. The former tries to view the world with all its complexities, the latter reduces everything into isolated singular facts. Not everything that makes noises is loud. Another paradox? Well, think about it!!! Dogan Göcmen http://dogangocmen.wordpress.com/ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/midhurst14%40aol.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Martin Jacques on China
to an international system the design and operation of which it was overwhelmingly responsible for.” Cast “in the role of supplicant,” China played nice, living “according to the terms set by others” and avoiding unnecessary conflicts to focus on its own economic growth. But as China “emerges as the most powerful country in the world,” he goes on, it will eventually be in “a position to set its own terms and conditions,” acting according to its own “history and instincts.” So how exactly would China behave as the world’s most powerful nation? Mr. Jacques is somewhat fuzzy on this question, suggesting that the country’s actions would most likely be informed by its sense of itself as an ancient civilization, rightfully returned to its place at the center of the world, by its grievances over the “century of humiliation” it suffered at the hands of foreign powers beginning in the middle of the 19th century, and by its “hierarchical view of the world” and “sense of cultural self-confidence and superiority.” He suggests that China will emerge as the “regional leader” of East Asia, displacing the United States there, and that it will also gain influence in Africa and Latin America. China will offer itself, he asserts, as both a developed and developing nation, as a sort of role model for progress, while also posing an alternative to the United States, which thanks to the unilateralist policies of George W. Bush lost considerable prestige and influence abroad. Throughout much of this volume Mr. Jacques makes bold predictions and uses strong, even melodramatic, language, writing that “China will become the world’s leading power” and “Beijing will emerge as the global capital,” and that the United States “finds itself on the eve of a psychological, emotional and existential crisis” as it enters “a protracted period of economic, political and military trauma.” In the very last pages, however, he abruptly begins to soft-pedal his thesis with qualified and hedged assessments. He writes that “for the next twenty years or so, as China continues its modernization, it will remain an essentially status-quo power,” and that the decline of the Western world will not “be replaced in any simplistic fashion by a Sinocentric world.” “The rise of competing modernities heralds a quite new world in which no hemisphere or country will have the same kind of prestige, legitimacy or overwhelming force that the West has enjoyed over the last two centuries,” he concludes. “Instead different countries and cultures will compete for legitimacy and influence.” The new world, he goes on, “at least for the next century, will not be Chinese in the way that the previous one was Western. We are entering an era of competing modernity, albeit one in which China will increasingly be in the ascendant and eventually perhaps dominant.” It’s a conclusion that’s dramatically less dramatic than the histrionic title of his book suggests. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/midhurst14%40aol.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Islamic creationism- Boston Globe
Religion is based on a lie That there is a god Man creates god, not the reverse George Anthony YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Peace Prize or war prize to Obama
Kissinger was also a peace prize recipient George Anthony YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Engels-Islip Review
John Green‘s book about Frederick Engels, has performed a service to the international labour movement. Along with his comrade in arms for many years, Karl Marx, their collective works are constantly referred to by friend and foe. Now more than ever as capitalism staggers from one turmoil, and one credit crunch, to another. Because the creation of surplus value can never be resolved by a society based on profit. This is the spectre that haunts globalisation. For it is an accepted truth that Karl Marx, not John Maynard Keynes or Milton Friedman, has the answer to the dilemmas daily confronting the central banks of the developed countries. In a recent article for instance, “that the sense of the grinding of the gears of history, the shifting of the political plates”, suggests that Marx and his ideas are never far from economic commentator’s minds. And that, along with creeping monopolies, growing inequality and the all-absorbing momentum of the capital markets, Marx foresaw many of the effects of globalisation, “which he called “the universal interdependence of nations', not least the effects of an international 'reserve army of the unemployed' in disciplining and depressing the wages of workers in the developed economies“, so wrote Simon Caulkin, in the Observer of May 1. A Revolutionary Life, helped me identify more readily with a man I‘ve greatly admired for years. My reading of his Conditions of the English Working Class, made a profound impression on me at the tender age of 18. John writes in a clear and graphic style, on how Engels, from a very wealthy business family, graduated from a man of action in the revolution in 1848, taking up arms to overthrow the ruling elite in Germany, to a thinker, almost equal to Marx. Indeed, John quite rightly claims, that without Engels’s understanding of Marx’s brilliant mind, much of the three volumes of Capital would not have been published. But their most famous work and the introduction to any would be revolutionary to the ideas of Marxism is of course, the Communist Manifesto. With its penetrating declaration, “It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his ‘natural superiors,’ and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous ‘cash payment‘.” ringing true every day of our lives. Both Engels and Marx however, had to combat both supporters and opponents who constantly quoted their works as scripture, rather than this or that quote being an illustration of their method of thinking, that of dialectical and historical materialism, Or as Bert Ramelson, the much respected Industrial Organiser of the Communist Party of Great Britain, advised me, “Gather the information and make a decision” Also the modern day feminist need go no further for an explanation of their present and past exploitation, than to read Engels‘s, Origin of the Family. Where once male possession of property became dominant, the pre-eminence of the mother figure was over, and exploitation of women in its every form continues to the present day. John traces the domestic travails that beset Engels at every turn, in his struggle to break with convention and to pursue a life of struggle. Describing how the rupture with his reactionary father, to the point when Frederick was confronted by Engels senior, even as his son stood on the barricades in 1848, took place. How his partner, Mary Burns, together with her sister Lizzie (who became Engels’s partner soon after Mary’s premature death) both heroic Irish Fenians in their own right, introduced him to the horrors of the cotton weavers lives in Manchester, that enabled him to write of working class life in the satanic mills of that city. The work of the famous pair is provided in detail, in their response to the campaign of the Chartists, the formation of the First International, the Paris Commune, the Indian mutiny, the building of trade unions, in Britain, Germany and America. In other words they established their role as the centre of an alternative international thinking; and in opposition to the capitalist ideas of the day. Subsequently taken up by the heroes in the pantheon of revolution, Lenin, Ho Chi Min, Che Guevara to Fidel Castro, plus millions of others, who, like me, owe a debt of gratitude to the work of Frederick Engels, so absorbingly written up in a Revolutionary Life. In a very moving account, John writes of the simple ceremony undertaken by Eleanor Marx, Edward Aveling, Eduard Bernstein and Friedrich Lessner, to scatter his ashes into the sea off the coast of Eastbourne, because the great man wanted no grave or monument to mark his final resting place. We can be grateful to John, for his research and the writing of the story of Frederick Engels, intellectual giant and great human being. A Revolutionary Life A Biography of Friedrich Engels By J
Re: [Marxism] Interesting China article
This economy is guided by the idea introduced by Lenin in the 1920's Through this scientific view a Communist led economy will dominate the global economy as any reading of the Financial Times will illustrate And enunciated as follows George Anthony Japanese Communist Party Central Committee Chair Fuwa Tetsuzo lecture on “Lenin and the Market Economy” Chinese Academy of Social Sciences in Beijing August 27th 2002. £2 inc. postage & http://www.jcp.or.jp/english/jps_weekly/ 2002-0827-fuwa.html YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Contemporary United States Racism and Related Maladies [some in...
I am beginning to fear that Obama is being drowned by the forces of reaction and cannot deal with them as FDR did I hope I am not being too gloomy George Anthony YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Teddy
His father was a bootlegger and an enemy of Roosevelt who made him the US ambassador to Britain out of the way of American politics He therefore had an insane drive to get his sons elected president Edward Kennedy originally supported the Vietnam war, but like McNamara saw it was a loser George Anthony YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Marx's General
This is a far more accurate account George Anthony John Green‘s book about Frederick Engels, has performed a service to the international labour movement. Along with his comrade in arms for many years, Karl Marx, their collective works are constantly referred to by friend and foe. Now more than ever as capitalism staggers from one turmoil, and one credit crunch, to another. Because the creation of surplus value can never be resolved by a society based on profit. This is the spectre that haunts globalisation. For it is an accepted truth that Karl Marx, not John Maynard Keynes or Milton Friedman, has the answer to the dilemmas daily confronting the central banks of the developed countries. In a recent Observer article of May 1, for instance, “that the sense of the grinding of the gears of history, the shifting of the political plates. And that, along with creeping monopolies, growing inequality and the all-absorbing momentum of the capital markets, Marx foresaw many of the effects of globalisation, “which he called “the universal interdependence of nations', not least the effects of an international 'reserve army of the unemployed' in disciplining and depressing the wages of workers in the developed economies”, reveals that Marx’s ideas are never very far away. A Revolutionary Life, helped me identify more readily with a man I‘ve greatly admired for years. My reading of his Conditions of the Working Class in England, made a profound impression on me at the tender age of 18. John writes in a clear and graphic style, on how Engels, from a very wealthy business family, graduated from a man of action in the revolution in 1848, taking up arms to overthrow the ruling elite in Germany, to a thinker, almost equal to Marx. Indeed, John quite rightly claims, that without Engels’s understanding of Marx’s brilliant mind, much of the three volumes of Capital would not have been published. But their most famous work and the introduction to any would be revolutionary to the ideas of Marxism is of course, the Communist Manifesto. With its penetrating declaration, “It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his ‘natural superiors,’ and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous ‘ cash payment‘.” ringing true every day of our lives. Both Engels and Marx however, had to combat both supporters and opponents who constantly quoted their works as scripture, rather than this or that quote being an illustration of their method of thinking, that of dialectical and historical materialism, Or as Bert Ramelson, the much respected Industrial Organiser of the Communist Party of Great Britain, advised me, “Gather the information and make a decision” Also the modern day feminist need go no further for an explanation of their present and past exploitation, than to read Engels‘s, Origin of the Family. Where once male possession of property became dominant, the pre-eminence of the mother figure was over, and exploitation of women in its every form continues to the present day. John traces the domestic travails that beset Engels at every turn, in his struggle to break with convention and to pursue a life of struggle. Describing how the rupture with his reactionary father, to the point when Frederick was confronted by Engels senior, even as his son stood on the barricades in 1848, took place. How his partner, Mary Burns, together with her sister Lizzie (who became Engels’s partner soon after Mary’s premature death) both heroic Irish Fenians in their own right, introduced him to the horrors of the cotton weavers lives in Manchester, that enabled him to write of working class life in the satanic mills of that city. The work of the famous pair is provided in detail, in their response to the campaign of the Chartists, the formation of the First International, the Paris Commune, the Indian mutiny, the building of trade unions, in Britain, Germany and America. In other words they established their role as the centre of an alternative international thinking; and in opposition to the capitalist ideas of the day. Subsequently taken up by the heroes in the pantheon of revolution, Lenin, Ho Chi Min, Che Guevara to Fidel Castro, plus millions of others, who, like me, owe a debt of gratitude to the work of Frederick Engels, so absorbingly written up in a Revolutionary Life. In a very moving account, John writes of the simple ceremony undertaken by Eleanor Marx, Edward Aveling, Eduard Bernstein and Friedrich Lessner, to scatter his ashes into the sea off the coast of Eastbourne, because the great man wanted no grave or monument to mark his final resting place. We can be grateful to John, for his research and the writing of the story of Frederick Engels, intelle
Re: [Marxism] Another forward from Rosa L. - Analytic Marxsim
Dialectical Materialism is a method of thinking That every event is connected and there is no mystical or metaphysical factor involved Keep it simple Attention to petty detail leads to madness George Anthony YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Moderator's note
Provided I'm not provoked, this is my last word George Anthony YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Question for German comrades
Have you forgotten the role of Karl Leibnicht and Rosa Luxembourg And the premature rising just before the end of the war, where a block of flats took up arms and were murdered for their pains The KPD was never destroyed by Hitler and functioned illegally inside and outside the concentration canps George Anthony YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Peaceful coexistence [was Re: Red Army and rape]
You tell me Where did you get our information? Readers Digest or Comic Cuts George Anthony YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Totalitarianism and Mass Rape
For the truth about the Pearl Harbour stitch up read "Day of Deceit" by Robert B Stinnet George Anthony YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Totalitarianism and Mass Rape
The Battle of El Alamein was a side show But important for Churchill and the reason he joined the war on the side of progress, to save the British Empire After all the Germans had colonies in Africa that had been lost after WW1 Chamberlain was an appeaser and the British ruling class was riddled with them, seeing Hitler's method of dealing with the organised working class as their ideal Mosley had considerable support in East London William Joyce (Lord Haw Haw) was a councillor in Shoreditch George Anthony NB Antony Beevor's book on Stalingrad showed only grudging respect for the intelligence and bravery displayed by Soviet troops, men and women What can you expect, he had been an officer in the 11th Hussars I was a National Serviceman in the Third Hussars, where the officers were either nitwits or maniacs George Anthony YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Red Army and rape
Who started the war George Anthony YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Red Army and rape
Aren't you purists forgetting what the Nazis did to Soviet womanhood George YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] post
This is an interesting idea George Anthony YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] post
Stalinism is not a theory but a practice Coined by the enemies of Socialism to discourage any more of it George Anthony YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] post
Equating nazism with Communism is absurd Read The Communist Manifesto for clarification George Anthony YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
