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Following my message on subject re} Glaciergate:

I have just been listening to a recording made from BBC Radio3 
yesterday -Kenneth Clarke's Jazz Greats:4 - Sonny Rollins = which I could 
not fault.

Now I don't know if, across the pond, you can listen to BBC iPlayer, which 
makes the last week or so radio and TV programmes available for download for 
a period - but, if you can, you should listen to this
jazz apprecition from a reired Tory cabinet minister - an really fault his 
jazz appreciation.

Now, born in 1925, I grew up (in opposition to my paremts) is appeciating 
the relationship between music and freedom - in other words - why it was 
that the BBC did not allow jazz to be on the radio  - because that was 
"nigger music" that early associated for me appreciation of jazz with 
progressive politics   And where did I go for my first jazz concerts?  To 
the Conway Hall in London's Bloomsbury (the heart of the area frequented by 
those who were opposed to the "establishment". whatever their attitude to 
"class struggle" might be (many of the most exteme "bohemians" still adhered 
to the Tory viewpoint on poltiical matters).  Just look on WIKI to see WHY 
it was named the Conway Hall ; and some of my best memories  of musical 
occasions are associated with "jam sessions" organised at Conway Hall by the 
Young Commnist League, with participation of negro jazz musicians over here 
in the American Army (possibly, or even probably] AWOL at the time, because 
of the atrocious racialism practiced by the US Army in the 1940s (an for 
long after).

Even, years later, just after the end of the war, when I was an officer in 
the 4th Royal Tank Regiment in Italy, and used to give weekly record 
recitals on jazz appreciation - based on records I borrowed from the US 
'ibrary at near Duino Castle. near Trieste. I have such vivid memories of 
the looks I received from the service librarians about this WHITE British 
officer searching among the "Race Records" for the jazz records I needed for 
next week's recital.

This whole experience still partially covers my appreciation of US matters: 
I am well aware of the disgusting role of 17-19th century involvement of 
Britain in the slave trade and the economic and political enslavement of 
those living in the "empire over which the sun never sets", but I still join 
with my fellow Norfolkman Tom Paine in concern with "Commonsense", "The 
Rights of Man" and the "Age of Reason".

We really do need to go back to read Tom Paine, who in the 18th century was 
aleady setting a path for human society we have still to follow.

Just to prick so many on this list - I would say that on the verge of the 
19th century - his simple ideas were already so far ahead of such poor 
prophets as Trotsky that create such useless controversy on the so-called 
left.

Paddy
http://apling.freeservers.com




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