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Following my message on subject re} Glaciergate: I have just been listening to a recording made from BBC Radio3 yesterday -Kenneth Clarke's Jazz Greats:4 - Sonny Rollins = which I could not fault. Now I don't know if, across the pond, you can listen to BBC iPlayer, which makes the last week or so radio and TV programmes available for download for a period - but, if you can, you should listen to this jazz apprecition from a reired Tory cabinet minister - an really fault his jazz appreciation. Now, born in 1925, I grew up (in opposition to my paremts) is appeciating the relationship between music and freedom - in other words - why it was that the BBC did not allow jazz to be on the radio - because that was "nigger music" that early associated for me appreciation of jazz with progressive politics And where did I go for my first jazz concerts? To the Conway Hall in London's Bloomsbury (the heart of the area frequented by those who were opposed to the "establishment". whatever their attitude to "class struggle" might be (many of the most exteme "bohemians" still adhered to the Tory viewpoint on poltiical matters). Just look on WIKI to see WHY it was named the Conway Hall ; and some of my best memories of musical occasions are associated with "jam sessions" organised at Conway Hall by the Young Commnist League, with participation of negro jazz musicians over here in the American Army (possibly, or even probably] AWOL at the time, because of the atrocious racialism practiced by the US Army in the 1940s (an for long after). Even, years later, just after the end of the war, when I was an officer in the 4th Royal Tank Regiment in Italy, and used to give weekly record recitals on jazz appreciation - based on records I borrowed from the US 'ibrary at near Duino Castle. near Trieste. I have such vivid memories of the looks I received from the service librarians about this WHITE British officer searching among the "Race Records" for the jazz records I needed for next week's recital. This whole experience still partially covers my appreciation of US matters: I am well aware of the disgusting role of 17-19th century involvement of Britain in the slave trade and the economic and political enslavement of those living in the "empire over which the sun never sets", but I still join with my fellow Norfolkman Tom Paine in concern with "Commonsense", "The Rights of Man" and the "Age of Reason". We really do need to go back to read Tom Paine, who in the 18th century was aleady setting a path for human society we have still to follow. Just to prick so many on this list - I would say that on the verge of the 19th century - his simple ideas were already so far ahead of such poor prophets as Trotsky that create such useless controversy on the so-called left. Paddy http://apling.freeservers.com ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com