[Marxism] re : Islamophobia and France's NP

2010-12-16 Thread Dan
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Actually, YOU sound like a paternalistic slave holder, seeing Muslim
head-scarves as a sign of belonging to a distinct culture, while you
yourself if you were a woman, and had the choice, would never submit to
such an indignity unless you were forced to by tradition, submissive
thought-patterns and a watchful imams.

Now, I will give your email to the many, many workers from Muslim
backgrounds, 1st and 2nd generation, from my union (CNT). I will ask
them to write a response to The point is that the head scarf is being
used as a symbol to scapegoat a religion, a people-- to define that
religion, that people as external stranger and... as unFrench, and
somehow a source of real disturbance in the harmony of society.

Fouad is the General secretary of the Construction workers of Moselle (57-58), 
the SIPM (journalists) RP also is made up
of many (2nd generation) migrants (many Iranians), Ali Hussein is a colleague 
of mine (with an honours degree and a PhD) 
from the teachers' union. They will probably have something more interesting to 
say than what I wrote
about the head-scarf being used as a symbol to scapegoat a religion.

Hope you get a response from them, if not, contact the Secretariat of the 
United Cleaning workers (RP), 1300 strong CNT
union that is exclusively composed of migrant workers who clean hotels. 95% 
women. 70% Muslim. 

My own theoretical exertions to denounce the nefarious role of religion in 
breaking down class
solidarity are over as of this post.





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Re: [Marxism] re : Islamophobia and France's NP

2010-12-16 Thread S. Artesian
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Right paternalistic slaveholder because I oppose the French government's 
attempt to stigmatize women who wear the head scarf.

Like I said, you make shit up.


- Original Message - 
From: Dan d.koech...@wanadoo.fr 



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Re: [Marxism] re : Islamophobia and France's NP

2010-12-16 Thread Joseph Catron
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On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Dan d.koech...@wanadoo.fr wrote:

while you
 yourself if you were a woman, and had the choice, would never submit to
 such an indignity unless you were forced to by tradition, submissive
 thought-patterns and a watchful imams.


says a racist douchebag who, I'm willing to bet, wears a shirt every day of
his life, and with no more logical (or, if you prefer, natural/non-cultural)
justification than a headscarf.

And yes, if Dan believes that each of my friends who chooses to wear a hijab
would never submit to such an indignity absent the stupid, reductionist
conditions he postulates, that's exactly what he is.

Fuck off, racist scum.

-- 
Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen
lytlað.

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