Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] O, Dialectics! :Bakhurst

2005-06-21 Thread Ralph Dumain

What in bloody hell does this mean?

At 09:32 AM 6/21/2005 +0200, Victor wrote:
Science is founded as ideas, but unlike Hegel's ideal (which as Marx put 
it is as nothing else but the form of social activity represented in the 
thing or conversely the form of human creativity represented as a thing as 
an object) Science is the idea as a reflection on practical labour 
activity rather than on social activity.  That is to say, in Science the 
idea is hijacked to formulate theories regarding the universal laws etc. 
involved in the practical realization of ideas through labour and 
regarding the relevance of these laws to the work at hand.



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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] O, Dialectics! :Bakhurst

2005-06-21 Thread Victor


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What in bloody hell does this mean?

At 09:32 AM 6/21/2005 +0200, Victor wrote:
Science is founded as ideas, but unlike Hegel's ideal (which as Marx put 
it is as nothing else but the form of social activity represented in the 
thing or conversely the form of human creativity represented as a thing as 
an object) Science is the idea as a reflection on practical labour 
activity rather than on social activity.

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Sorry, wrote this in a hurry.  It should read:
Scientific knowledge is represented in the form of ideas, but unlike the 
ideal (which as Marx put it is as nothing else but the form of social 
activity represented in the thing or conversely the form of human creativity 
represented as a thing as an object) Science is the representation of 
reflections on practical labour activity rather than on social activity.


Comment: it is the identity of the means of representation of ethics and of 
science both in conscious thought and in material symbolical form that is 
the source of confusion regarding the distinction between the ideal and the 
real.


That is to say, in Science the idea is hijacked to formulate theories 
regarding the universal laws etc. involved in the practical realization of 
ideas through labour and regarding the relevance of these laws to the work 
at hand.

--
This should be rewritten to read:
That is, the representation of scientific knowledge involves hijacking the 
mode of representation of ethos and using it to represent theories regarding 
the universal laws etc. involved in the practical realization of ideas 
through labour and regarding the relevance of these laws to the work at 
hand.

Oudeyis

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