[Marxism-Thaxis] Morales Election is victory for Bolivian people: reply to left critics of new president

2006-02-28 Thread Fred Feldman
** SOCIALIST VOICE
Marxist Perspectives for the Workers' Movement #68 – February 25, 2006 
** 
 
MORALES ELECTION IS A VICTORY FOR THE BOLIVIAN PEOPLE A Reply to Left
Critics of Bolivia's New President 
 
By Fred Feldman 
 
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Introduction by Ian Angus and John Riddell 
 
What attitude should Marxists adopt towards the new Bolivian government
headed by radical peasant and indigenous leader Evo Morales? 
 
Morales and the movement he leads have set as their goal the
"refounding" of the Bolivian nation. The noted Latin American journalist
Eduardo Galeano has written an eloquent explanation of this goal: see
"The Second Founding of Bolivia," at
http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/galeano170206.html. 
 
Many groups in the international left have been sharply critical of
Morales and the Movement Toward Socialism (MAS) he leads. 
 
For example, Gerry Foley, a leader of the U.S.-based group Socialist
Action, writes that "popular illusions in Mora¬les and a party like MAS
in the Bolivian situation can only be a step backward, and have to be
combated. ... It is essential for revolutionists to combat illusions in
Morales and similar parliamentary solu¬tions and to support the fight to
make a government directly representing the working people a
reality."(Socialist Action, January 2006) 
 
In Bolivia itself, Jaime Solares, a leader of the Central Obrero
Boliviano (COB), a union federation, has denounced Morales as "a traitor
to the working class," and the COB remained neutral in the election.
Just one week after the election, Solares issued an Open Letter
demanding immediate nationalization of the oil industry and by
implication threatening direct action against the government if Morales
doesn't adopt their timetable. 
 
The following article by Fred Feldman responds to these and similar
criticisms. 
 
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It is a serious error to place ourselves in opposition to the general
course of a popular movement to "refound the nation" because of
theoretical considerations such as permanent revolution, "State and
Revolution," "two-stage revolution," the evils of "populism," concerns
about electoralism, demands for workers councils, general references to
the laws of capitalism, and so on. 
 
And that is what we are dealing with in the Bolivian election and its
consequences -- a popular movement to "refound the nation" that has now
elected one of its leaders as president. What has come under fire from
much of the left is not just or even primarily Morales but rather this
course of the masses. Of course, he is not "betraying," because he is
authentically representing the popular worker-peasant- indigenous
movement that used him to take the presidency of the bourgeois state for
itself. 
 
Uncertain outcome 
 
How will the contradiction between the mass movement and the presidency,
on one side, and the bourgeoisie plus its state play out? Will the
contradiction deepen as measures opposed by the imperialists or native
capital are carried out? Or will it be resolved in favor of the
maintenance and consolidation of a bourgeois government and state? 
 
The outcome is not foreordained. As Venezuela has been showing, the fact
that the masses don't start by destroying the army and the state machine
doesn't doom the process. And we are talking about a process, not
gigantic historical stages. 
 
** Will it lead to further democratic gains for the workers, peasants,
and indigenous? 
 
** Will it lead to comparable developments in other countries of the
region? 
 
** Will it lead to more collaboration and unity against the imperialist
main enemy of the peoples of Latin America? 
 
** Will it lead to socialism? Will the process stall and retreat? 
 
** Will the presidency be reabsorbed in the bourgeois state or will the
state be dismantled and constructed on a new foundation in the process? 
 
** Will a coup or invasion be attempted? How will divisions in the
military, which must surely be developing, play out? 
 
** Will antagonism against the imperialists heighten or will the
imperialists be conciliated? Will Morales and the movement he leads
advance or retreat? How will divisions within the movement play out? 
 
All of these are possibilities, I believe. But there is a lot to go
through to get there, and the process is just beginning. But none of
this will be resolved by the demands of Solares and Foley and other left
critics that the process that has begun to be replaced by a different
one. 
 
A victory to be utilized 
 
The election of Morales must to be recognized as a gain to be utilized
in deepening the struggle. The opportunity to use the presidency of the
nation to advance the struggle must be welcomed, not feared or rejected.

 
Marx said the working people cannot simply take hold of the state and
wield it for its own purposes, and he was right. But he never opposed
running for office, including executive

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] People's History of Science

2006-02-28 Thread rosa lichtenstein

Charles,

I did not thank you for that reference in order to initiate a debate, but 
becasues I was genuinely grateful. And we have been through this before. [I 
forgot that whatever replies I made to you would go across the e-mail list, 
so no wonder you thought I wanted a debate.]


As I said to you in an earlier e-mail, the reason I have posted all this 
material on the web is to save me having to make the same points over and 
over. Now, you can read my Essays, or just ignore them. That is up to you. 
But, I try not to debate this stuff with dialecticians, since I am sick of 
making the same points that I have been making with comrades who accept this 
doctrine now for over 25 years. And you lot all say the same things. I can 
almost put the words in your mouth for you.


In contrast, there is precious little in my Essays that is not original to 
me, whether it is right or wrong.


However, I do not recognise the political disaster area called 'communism' 
as a success, not since at least 1924, or thereabouts.


In fact, it has been a curse on Marxism, for reasons I will let you guess.

As a Trotskyist (and one associated with the UK/SWP -- although they would 
disown my anti-dialectical ideas), you would hardly expect any other 
judgement.


"No non-dialectical theories have come anywhere near the level of success 
that dialectical materialism has."


Well I rather think bourgeois ideology in general is more successful, 
especially if dialectical materialism apes its thought-forms (you can find 
evidence for this at my site). Practically 100% of the planet is governed by 
their market, their fragmentary 'democracy', their oligarchic system -- now 
largely aped by most communist parties.


If truth were tested in practice we'd all be bourgeois, as indeed communist 
parties have become over the years. If that is a success, then the word has 
changed its meaning since last I looked.


If you still think communism can be chalked up as a success, that is your 
affair, but it will mean that we are so far apart politically that 
successful communication between us will be impossible.


However, my criticisms of dialectical materialism are independent of whether 
or not communism/Marxism has been a success or not (I merely use that 
tag-line as a controversial clutcher), since I do not accept practice as a 
criterion of truth -- I just use it to embarrass those who do. Why this is 
so is also explained at my site.


Dialectics does not hold up as a theory, whatever disasters (or otherwise) 
it has helped inflict on Marxism.


I have made my case for this (or at least one third of it so far) at my 
site. As I say, you can read what I have to say, or ignore it.


I am sure the class-struggle will proceed the same whatever you decide to 
do.


RL







- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Forum for the discussion of theoretical issues raised by Karl Marx 
andthe thinkers he inspired'" 

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 6:12 PM
Subject: [Marxism-Thaxis] People's History of Science



Rosa Lichtenstein
You can find it in extensive detail at

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/


RL

^
CB; What about the fact that Marxism has not been a failure in practice, 
but

a pretty big success compared to all other theories ? That seems a main
weakness in your argument. Marxism has been a success, not failure. There
are giant Communist Parties still, and there were bigger ones before.  No
non-dialectical theories have come anywhere near the level of success that
dialectical materialism has.




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[Marxism-Thaxis] People's History of Science

2006-02-28 Thread Charles Brown
 Rosa Lichtenstein 
You can find it in extensive detail at

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/


RL

^
CB; What about the fact that Marxism has not been a failure in practice, but
a pretty big success compared to all other theories ? That seems a main
weakness in your argument. Marxism has been a success, not failure. There
are giant Communist Parties still, and there were bigger ones before.  No
non-dialectical theories have come anywhere near the level of success that
dialectical materialism has. 




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[Marxism-Thaxis] People's History of Science

2006-02-28 Thread Charles Brown
 
 

You can find it in extensive detail at

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/


RL

^
CB: Do you want to debate your thesis ? Is it ok to post some of your
polemic to this list ?





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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] People's History of Science

2006-02-28 Thread Rosa Lichtenstein

You can find it in extensive detail at

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/


RL



- Original Message - 
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andthe thinkers he inspired'" 

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:03 PM
Subject: [Marxism-Thaxis] People's History of Science



Charles,

Thanks fot that! Just what I needed to plug a tiny hole in my 
anti-dialectic


thesis.

Rosa L

^^^
Rosa,

What is that thesis again ?

Charles

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[Marxism-Thaxis] People's History of Science

2006-02-28 Thread Charles Brown
Charles,

Thanks fot that! Just what I needed to plug a tiny hole in my anti-dialectic

thesis.

Rosa L
 
^^^
Rosa,
 
What is that thesis again ?
 
Charles

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