Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Goldman Sachs Charged with [CIVIL] fraud (fraudulent securities marketing)

2010-04-22 Thread CeJ
Predictably enough GS is now setting up a 'lone rogue trader' defense
(used to be called the scapegoat or patsy defense):

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-20/goldman-sachs-says-sec-case-hinges-on-actions-of-one-employee.html

excerpt:

 ‘He Said-She said’

The SEC complaint “clearly revolves a little bit around ‘he said-she
said,’ ” Palm said, and hinges on whether Tourre misled ACA into
believing that Paulson was investing in the deal instead of betting
against it.

Byron Georgiou, a member of a U.S. panel that’s investigating the
financial crisis, said he doubts Goldman Sachs could make a convincing
case that Tourre acted alone and without the full support of his
superiors.

“It’s hard to imagine that there wasn’t some supervision of a
27-year-old, at that time, trader structuring a billion- dollar
transaction on which Goldman made a $15 million fee,” Georgiou, who
serves on the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, said in a Bloomberg
Television interview.

Palm said Tourre “believes that he indicated” to ACA that Paulson was
interested in taking a “short” position on the deal, meaning he was
betting against it, Palm said. “Our employee certainly knows that he
did not represent to ACA or indicate in any way that Paulson was going
to be an equity investor in this transaction.”

Goldman Sachs, which vowed on April 16 that it would “vigorously
contest” the SEC’s suit, isn’t ruling out a potential settlement, Palm
said.

“You go to trial, which is what we’re doing, and you always have the
option of, if there is an agreeable settlement to both sides, of
settling at any point in time,” he said.

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[Marxism-Thaxis] Goldman Sachs Charged with [CIVIL] fraud (fraudulent securities marketing)

2010-04-20 Thread CeJ
It's another joke from the Obama regime. If they really meant
business, they would cite the RICO laws and get the DoJ to handout
indictments and subpoenas and start deposing.

This source below actually has the civil fraud complain't text in it.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/sec_slaps_goldman_with_civil_fraud_complaint.php

The SEC's complaint charges Goldman Sachs and Tourre with violations of 
Section 17(a) of the Securities Act of 1933, Section 10(b) of the Securities 
Exchange Act of 1934, and Exchange Act Rule 10b-5. The Commission seeks 
injunctive relief, disgorgement of profits, prejudgment interest, and 
financial penalties.




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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Goldman Sachs Charged with [CIVIL] fraud (fraudulent securities marketing)

2010-04-20 Thread c b
On 4/20/10, CeJ  wrote:
 It's another joke from the Obama regime. If they really meant
 business, they would cite the RICO laws and get the DoJ to handout
 indictments and subpoenas and start deposing.

 This source below actually has the civil fraud complain't text in it.

 http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/sec_slaps_goldman_with_civil_fraud_complaint.php

 The SEC's complaint charges Goldman Sachs and Tourre with violations of 
 Section 17(a) of the Securities Act of 1933, Section 10(b) of the 
 Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and Exchange Act Rule 10b-5. The 
 Commission seeks injunctive relief, disgorgement of profits, prejudgment 
 interest, and financial penalties.



CB: We materialists want money from them ( disgorgement of profits)
.  Their going to jail ( RICO) would be immaterial.

(Civil cases have subpoenas and depositions , too. Criminal cases,
like RICO, don't have depositions)

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