Re: [MLL]Fw: [WW] We're online

2001-04-04 Thread Javad Eskandarpour

Comrade Klo,

My comments were intended to encourage the members of the MLL to participate
frequently and actively in discussions, but not to "impugn" the integrity of
anybody. Also, it is obvious that anybody can be a member of any list one
likes, but we would like to be a member of the MLL list due to its specific
line of discussion, which the other lists might not have to a sufficient
degree. So, encouraging the members of the MLL to stay with the list in
difficult times and the "freedom" of joining other lists are different
things.
Javad



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From: KloMcKinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: April 3, 2001 1:16:11 PM GMT
Subject: Re: [MLL]Fw: [WW]  We're online


Javad Eskandarpour wrote:

 Comrade Moreira,

 Thank you for the good news that the MLL list will stay operational. And I
 hope that some members of this list who would like to be "swamped" by
e-mail
 messages will participate actively in discussions in this list instead of
 jumping ships in difficult times.
 Javad


My reply,
Now Javad that borders on, well I will let you fill in the word, if you
are referring to me, Bill, and Charles.  We merely thought the other list
looked interesting and decided to join.  It had nothing to do with "jumping
ship" and I think you know as much.  This has the aura of impugning our
integrity.  I, for one, did not desert anything, did not leave the MLL, and
have no intention of doing so.  Are you saying one should only be on one
list
at a time.

For the cause,

Klo




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Re: [MLL]Fw: [WW] WW news service will be offline temporarily

2001-04-04 Thread Partija rada

From: Charles F. Moreira
Date: 03 April, 2001 9:24 PM


Milan,

I noticed from your posts to the Stalinskaya list that your organisation is
anti-Serb chauvanism and anti-Milosevic and his SPS.
Since you are there in Yugoslavia, your views are worth consideration.

However, while as you say, Milosevic has destroyed workers' organisations
and is not socialist, don't you see Milosevic's arrest being a victory for
imperialism which would make it more difficult for you to fight and win
your
struggle for socialism in the Balkans?

What is your opinion of this Workers World article on the matter below?

Charles

Dear Charles, and Comrades!
Due to my problems with English language, and activities in Party I must ask
you for patience while waiting my full answer. Maybe it would be the best
thing if you ask me questions (like you did Charles), and I'll provide
apropriate documents and answers. For the very beginning I can answer to you
Charles that's arresting of Milosevic a victory for imperialists by the
simple fact that they wanted arrested Milosevic. But that's not connected
with our struggle for Communism. From documents which I provide with this
message, you will see real face of Milosevic's regime. Coup d etat of DOS,
was just an internal struggle of two factions of bourgeoisie. Now is a bit
easier for us to fight with capitalist since new government must to prove
her self as democratic, which means that she must provide freedom of the
speech, freedom for free public work... or we will take that rights by
force. You must not to forget that during DOS's coup there was more than
500.000 of proletarians on the streets of Belgrade, and that there was in
all towns of Serbia huge number of proletarians ready for fight, preventing
police forces (sometimes by force) from their cities to come in Belgrade.
That would be all for now. Down you can find relating documents.
Milan
P.S. I hope that I shouldn't had to post this message on list.



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ABOUT ARRESTING OF SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC

False left-wings from SPS (Socialist Party of Serbia) attempt that case of
arresting of Slobodan Milosevic, former dictator and Butcher of Balkans,
show as attack on left-wing and compare it with Salvador Alende. That's not
true, and as evidence we will list just a few facts:
* Slobodan Milosevic is organizer and inspirer of ethnical cleansing in
Eastern Slavonia, Bosnia, and on Kosovo. During that job he relies on
services of big criminals like Zeljko Raznjatovic - Arkan (leader of
fascistic paramilitary troop "Tigrovi"), Dragoslav Bokan (leader of
fascistic formation "Beli orlovi"), nazi criminal Radovan Karadzic, Ratko
Mladic... Sinisa Vucinic which as "vojvoda" (Chetnik rank) of right-wing
paramilitary troops has his role at war in Croatia, after that he was a
member of Radical party which he split, and join his supporters in JUL,
Milosevic's wife party. He was last defense of dethroned dictator, but
arrested after him.
* While Slobodan Milosevic was president of Serbia and Yugoslavia,
mercenaries murdered people on the streets. One of murdered was a journalist
Slavko Curuvija.
* They false represented themselves as left wings, while robbed state
enterprises.
* They brought a law about privatization when the top of that party was
richest class in state.
That party manipulate by feelings of real left-wings on the world trying to
present themselves as fighters against imperialism, but truth is that they
come to clash with the imperialism since they tried to conduct their
local-imperialism, brutally and without mercy. On the same way as they try
to cooperate today with left-wing and communist parties all over the world,
they cooperated during the war in Croatia with Italian fascists from MSI
(Movimento sociale Italiana). They was in coalition with extreme right-wing
Vojislav Seselj which was, and he still do that, supported Jean Mari Le Pen,
Vladimir Zirinovski, and other similar faces.
Same policeman's which till yesterday was beating workers, and citizens
during demonstrations arrested Milosevic.
Comrades don't fall upon propaganda of SPS because that party destroyed
working class in Serbia, and imported wild capitalism. Against that regime
mass of the people was demonstrating against elector theft in September, and
during that uprising came to the attack on Peoples Parliament in Belgrade,
which is still fresh in memory.
About that regime we can write much more, as well as about their leader, but
we think that this is enough. Analogy with Alende is disgusting. It is more
suitable comparison with Pinoche.
Revolutionary greetings from Serbia and Montenegro
Partija rada
(this is not official statement of CC, just a position of few Comrades from
CC).


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