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-Original Message- From: Charles F. Moreira Date: 03 April, 2001 9:24 PM Milan, I noticed from your posts to the Stalinskaya list that your organisation is anti-Serb chauvanism and anti-Milosevic and his SPS. Since you are there in Yugoslavia, your views are worth consideration. M: To clear up things a bit. We are not against Milosevic nor SPS. We are against fascistic policy, expresed during the wars in Croatia and Bosnia, which were, in fact, wars for Great Serbia which should include Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, whole Bosnia, and the great part of Croatia. On the other hand, that policy, lead the country to total economic collapse so that we have now completely destroyed country, which, once, had a good industry, agriculture, roads, bridges... Also, that fascistic policy created apartheid government on Kosovo where 90% of population was Albanian. During 1998. Serbian police, with the help of paramilitary organizations, launch great offensive on Kosovo with aim to destroy KLA. Whole world was blind, and deaf, while these mercenaries were doing their job by killing, lootig, raping and burning. If we put on the side other arguments against apartheid policy on Kosovo, just this example is enough to prove "socialistic" thought of Milosevic and such policy. Isn't a basic principle of Marxism-Leninism that each nation have a right on selfdetermination until separating and creating of their own state? That's why we supported righteous struggle of Albanian people on Kosovo. However, while as you say, Milosevic has destroyed workers' organisations and is not socialist, don't you see Milosevic's arrest being a victory for imperialism which would make it more difficult for you to fight and win your struggle for socialism in the Balkans? M: Very fact that Milosevic procalims himself as "socialist" would make our struggle much more difficult. It is very hard to explain to workers that we are not Milosevic's satelites, but a real communists. You can imagine how is that difficult only by looking at my struggle on Internet lists where I try to explain what is really happens here. Arresting of Milosevic is a victory of imperialism, but, as I mentioned, Milosevic was mostly a puppet of Greato-Serb policy. He was brought to power by Serbian Academy of Art and Science (SANU), few individuals (Dobrica Cosic, and other), and Serb Orthodox Church (SPC). SAME SCUM WHICH OVERTHROWN HIM ON OCTOBER LAST YEAR, AND WHICH BRING TO POWER KOSTUNICA! And while that scum have a great influence on state, trial on Milosevic in this country would be ridicilous. He would be sentenced for robbing. As a simple street thief. He must be judged for war crimes. It is too much of people killed on his command. That is why we (as a Party) argue trial in Den Haag. That would be great strike to chauvinists here (including Kostunica himself). What is your opinion of this Workers World article on the matter below? M: It proves that on Kosovo (and recently in Macedonia) we have people's resistance which don't depend on NATO or any other world power. Position of our Party is that aim of bombing was just that NATO come on Balkans, and prevent future spreading of clashes, since there existed real threat that in conflict come Albania, Macedonia, and then Greece and Turkey. That would be a dissaster for NATO (two members of alliance fighting each other, while both of them have interests on Balkans). Basic aim of KLA was not to create Great Albania. We had many occasions to talk with Albanians, and their position was that when Serbia does not recognise their will to have schools and universities on their langauge, nor their will to participate in politic life of YUGOSLAVIA! After many years of peaceful struggle, only thing which left to them (especially when each major Albanian village was burned down by Serbian forces) to escape to forests and take arms in their hands. It is obviously that NATO inflitrate into KLA, but i think that this investment would be bad for them. Just remember how many of money they give to Moslems in Afganistan to fight against SSSR. About events in Macedonia I can't talk properly, since I don't have enough of informations. But, our position is to support any national liberation movement (of course, if is not nationalistic). National question is very important question for us here on Balkans. And, finally, about resistance to NATO. Demonstrations, like that one, organized by SPS, are worthless. Only possibility for real struggle against NATO is that people from Serbia, Kosovo, Macedonia, and Bosnia, solve national question, and turn on their real enemy: NATO. Charles For Communism, Milan P.S. Sorry for delay. I had a lot of job to do these days. - Via Workers World News Service Reprinted from the April 5, 2001 issue of Workers World newspaper - NEITHER ORDER NOR PEACE: WHAT NATO BROUGHT TO THE BALKANS By John Catalinotto Rome Two years after Washington and
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From: Charles F. Moreira Date: 03 April, 2001 9:24 PM Milan, I noticed from your posts to the Stalinskaya list that your organisation is anti-Serb chauvanism and anti-Milosevic and his SPS. Since you are there in Yugoslavia, your views are worth consideration. However, while as you say, Milosevic has destroyed workers' organisations and is not socialist, don't you see Milosevic's arrest being a victory for imperialism which would make it more difficult for you to fight and win your struggle for socialism in the Balkans? What is your opinion of this Workers World article on the matter below? Charles Dear Charles, and Comrades! Due to my problems with English language, and activities in Party I must ask you for patience while waiting my full answer. Maybe it would be the best thing if you ask me questions (like you did Charles), and I'll provide apropriate documents and answers. For the very beginning I can answer to you Charles that's arresting of Milosevic a victory for imperialists by the simple fact that they wanted arrested Milosevic. But that's not connected with our struggle for Communism. From documents which I provide with this message, you will see real face of Milosevic's regime. Coup d etat of DOS, was just an internal struggle of two factions of bourgeoisie. Now is a bit easier for us to fight with capitalist since new government must to prove her self as democratic, which means that she must provide freedom of the speech, freedom for free public work... or we will take that rights by force. You must not to forget that during DOS's coup there was more than 500.000 of proletarians on the streets of Belgrade, and that there was in all towns of Serbia huge number of proletarians ready for fight, preventing police forces (sometimes by force) from their cities to come in Belgrade. That would be all for now. Down you can find relating documents. Milan P.S. I hope that I shouldn't had to post this message on list. Partija rada Ruzveltova 27/III Beograd, 11000 F. R. Yugoslavia Tel/Fax: +381-11-752-385, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://go.to/partijarada ABOUT ARRESTING OF SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC False left-wings from SPS (Socialist Party of Serbia) attempt that case of arresting of Slobodan Milosevic, former dictator and Butcher of Balkans, show as attack on left-wing and compare it with Salvador Alende. That's not true, and as evidence we will list just a few facts: * Slobodan Milosevic is organizer and inspirer of ethnical cleansing in Eastern Slavonia, Bosnia, and on Kosovo. During that job he relies on services of big criminals like Zeljko Raznjatovic - Arkan (leader of fascistic paramilitary troop "Tigrovi"), Dragoslav Bokan (leader of fascistic formation "Beli orlovi"), nazi criminal Radovan Karadzic, Ratko Mladic... Sinisa Vucinic which as "vojvoda" (Chetnik rank) of right-wing paramilitary troops has his role at war in Croatia, after that he was a member of Radical party which he split, and join his supporters in JUL, Milosevic's wife party. He was last defense of dethroned dictator, but arrested after him. * While Slobodan Milosevic was president of Serbia and Yugoslavia, mercenaries murdered people on the streets. One of murdered was a journalist Slavko Curuvija. * They false represented themselves as left wings, while robbed state enterprises. * They brought a law about privatization when the top of that party was richest class in state. That party manipulate by feelings of real left-wings on the world trying to present themselves as fighters against imperialism, but truth is that they come to clash with the imperialism since they tried to conduct their local-imperialism, brutally and without mercy. On the same way as they try to cooperate today with left-wing and communist parties all over the world, they cooperated during the war in Croatia with Italian fascists from MSI (Movimento sociale Italiana). They was in coalition with extreme right-wing Vojislav Seselj which was, and he still do that, supported Jean Mari Le Pen, Vladimir Zirinovski, and other similar faces. Same policeman's which till yesterday was beating workers, and citizens during demonstrations arrested Milosevic. Comrades don't fall upon propaganda of SPS because that party destroyed working class in Serbia, and imported wild capitalism. Against that regime mass of the people was demonstrating against elector theft in September, and during that uprising came to the attack on Peoples Parliament in Belgrade, which is still fresh in memory. About that regime we can write much more, as well as about their leader, but we think that this is enough. Analogy with Alende is disgusting. It is more suitable comparison with Pinoche. Revolutionary greetings from Serbia and Montenegro Partija rada (this is not official statement of CC, just a position of few Comrades from CC). Partija rada Ruzveltova 27/III Beograd F.R. Yugoslavia tel/fax: +381-11-752-385, e-mail: [EMAIL
Re: [MLL]Fw: [WW] WW news service will be offline temporarily
Charles F. Moreira wrote on 31 March, 2001 9:35 AM Comrades, I received this from Workers World last night and its implication for our list is that we will also be affected by the closure of NorthPoint Communications Inc www.northpoint.net which provides broadband services to Workers World. We'll have to look for an alternative host or wait till Workers World find an alternative to Northpoint in about three to six weeks as stated below. Fraternally Charles Co-moderator Partija rada: Dear Charles! I hope that you will send us new information's if is there any of them. Also, I wish all the best to Comrades from Workers World in their efforts to continue with this kind of struggle. Milan ___ Marxist-Leninist-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/marxist-leninist-list
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refusing to take steps to stop it, the Macedonian fighting is more of a problem for the European NATO countries than for Washington. The European NATO powers are thrown back into the wartime situation of dependency on U.S. military might to get out of a crisis. Whatever the conscious strategy, it is apparent that neither the U.S. nor its allies can bring peace and prosperity to the region. They can only plunge it into another war. RESISTANCE TO U.S.-NATO OCCUPATION GROWS The NATO occupation was the focus of a series of international anti-war conferences held in Athens, Berlin and Belgrade on the anniversary of the attack on Yugoslavia. In Belgrade, 30 people from 17 countries and 100 people from Yugoslavia took part in the Belgrade Forum on March 22-23. They also took part in a mass anti-NATO protest demonstration on March 24. Italian journalist Fulvio Grimaldi, who attended the Belgrade Forum, told Workers World that "there were tens of thousands on the demonstration organized by the Socialist Party of Serbia. Many were young people, which is a new development. Last fall the pro-SPS people were mainly older, including former partisans. A new layer of the population is coming into activity." Grimaldi is a senatorial candidate of the Italian Communist Refoundation Party in the upcoming May 13 national elections. The Belgrade Forum's closing appeal reviewed the crimes of the U.S. and NATO against Yugoslavia and against peace, and demanded an end to the occupation and reparations for damages. It also ended with the following program of action: "Raise public awareness in our respective countries on the truth about NATO aggression. "Demand the abolition of the illegal International Criminal Tribunal for the Federation of Yugoslavia, also called The Hague Tribunal. Defend the former president of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia--Slobodan Milosevic--as well as Dragoljub Milanovic, former Director General of Radio- Television Serbia, and all victims of political oppression. "Raise the issue of the responsibility of Carla Del Ponte, [British commander] Michael Jackson, Bernard Kouchner and others for consolidating the Albanian terrorist groups. "Insist on NATO-member countries paying compensation for the damages done during the aggression." In Berlin, a group that had held popular anti-NATO tribunals- -like ones held in the U.S. by the International Action Center--hosted the founding meeting of the European Peace Convention on March 23-24. This too had Yugoslavia as its main theme. Some 200 people from both NATO countries and the formerly socialist countries met and again condemned the imperialist criminals who launched the war. NATO's aggression against Yugoslavia and its consequences remain the major war-and-peace issue within the European anti-war and anti-imperialist movement. - END - (Copyright Workers World Service: Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this document, but changing it is not allowed. For more information contact Workers World, 55 W. 17 St., NY, NY 10011; via e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For subscription info send message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.workers.org) - Original Message - From: "Partija rada" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [MLL]Fw: [WW] WW news service will be offline temporarily Charles F. Moreira wrote on 31 March, 2001 9:35 AM Comrades, I received this from Workers World last night and its implication for our list is that we will also be affected by the closure of NorthPoint Communications Inc www.northpoint.net which provides broadband services to Workers World. We'll have to look for an alternative host or wait till Workers World find an alternative to Northpoint in about three to six weeks as stated below. Fraternally Charles Co-moderator Partija rada: Dear Charles! I hope that you will send us new information's if is there any of them. Also, I wish all the best to Comrades from Workers World in their efforts to continue with this kind of struggle. Milan ___ Marxist-Leninist-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/marxist-leninist-list ___ Marxist-Leninist-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/marxist-leninist-list
