Re: mc 4.7.0pre3 support for .tlz archives

2009-11-03 Thread Theodore Kilgore


(follow-up)

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Theodore Kilgore wrote:




On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Helmut Hullen wrote:


Hallo, Theodore,

Du meintest am 27.10.09 zum Thema Re: mc 4.7.0pre3 support for .tlz 
archives:




Does anyone happen to know if similar procedures will open a
Slackware .txz file or not?



Slackware 13's mc works fine with .txz packages.



I am running Slackware-current right now, as I said. And the mc
package which is installed is mc-20090714_git-i486-1.txz, dated July
14. It will _not_ open a txz file out of the box. So, are you saying
it can be thus configured in the extension file?


Strange.
Does installpkg work with *.txz packages (it should, of course).

Viele Gruesse!
Helmut


Of course it does. But the question from here is about how to set up MC to do 
the kinds of things with .txz files which it can do with .tgz files. These 
include at least the following:


1. F3 shows the directory structure inside the tarball.
2. Enter opens up the filesystem of the tarball, and such things can be done 
as to view what is in them, to copy individual files or subdirectories out of 
the tarball, and such.

3. F2 followed by x will extract the contents

and so on.

As I said, these things may very well be possible to set up. But none of them 
currently work.


Theodore Kilgore


Helmut,

Thanks, I found the problem. The difficulty is that one's own local mc.ext 
file (which my $HOME/.mc directory contains under the name bindings)

is not overwritten when one does an upgrade, but instead is kept.

That one's own local bindings file is kept around is perhaps a good thing. 
But it is not an unmixed blessing. The results are bad if support for some 
new file format such as .txz gets missed. OTOH, the results of keeping the 
bindings file intact are good if one has had to edit the file in order to 
replace applications which are not on one's machine with applications 
which are present and do the same functionality. For example, I have to 
replace gqview with something else in order to view images and to do 
various other workarounds, too. I would hate for my workarounds and 
customizations to get blown away every time I upgrade Midnight Commander, 
because I depend on them.


So, thanks for pointing out that the support for .txz and such is already 
generally available. I guess what this points up is the need for more 
up-to-date and readily accessible documentation. But that is a problem 
that we all have to deal with, who produce software. I guess I have no 
answers.


Theodore Kilgore
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Re: 4.7pre4

2009-11-03 Thread MP


Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 * SZABĂ“ Gergely s...@subogero.com schrieb:
 
 Actually mc implements a lot of CUA standards, but you seem to forget 
 about the Norton/Total/Far traditions. I think it's equally (or more) 
 important to conform to those traditions. Anybody who ever used a 
 two-pane file-manager knows by heart what the keys F1 to F10 mean. And 
 they all expect to be able to edit the command line without any further 
 complications.
 
 ACK. These keybindings should not change (at least not in the
 default installation).

We could distribute multiple keybinding files aside of the default one -
one in which MC will mimick Total commander keyboard shortcuts as close as
possible, one mimicking FAR manager as close as possible, perhaps some
other if someone will send us something reasonable :)

Currently we have only the default and emacs keymap.

Martin Petricek

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Re: 4.7pre4

2009-11-03 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* MP t...@centrum.cz schrieb:

 We could distribute multiple keybinding files aside of the 
 default one -one in which MC will mimick Total commander 
 keyboard shortcuts as close aspossible, one mimicking FAR 
 manager as close as possible, perhaps someother if someone 
 will send us something reasonable :)

ACK. But we also should have the traditional one built-in
as a compile-time option (for small systems).

cu
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