Unity redefines F10
Hi, I installed the new Ubuntu (11.04) today and I noticed that Unity redefines F10, thus quitting from mc is not that easy anymore. Now I'm using ESC + 0, but F10 would be better. Do you know how to get back F10 in Unity? I haven't found it yet. Thanks, Laszlo ___ mc mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: Unity redefines F10
Hi! On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 03:52 -0400, Jabba Laci wrote: Do you know how to get back F10 in Unity? I haven't found it yet. Yes, that's a PITA, affect yourself with this bug to increase the heat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/750700 -- Sincerely yours, Yury V. Zaytsev ___ mc mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: Unity redefines F10
Hi, I found it and it seems to work. * install CompizConfig Settings Manager and start it * filter unity and start Ubuntu Unity Plugin * at the bottom you will see Key to open the first panel menu. Edit it and untick enabled, i.e. disable it. Now I can quit from mc with F10 and my F10 binding in vim is also back. Laszlo On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 07:17, Yury V. Zaytsev y...@shurup.com wrote: Hi! On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 03:52 -0400, Jabba Laci wrote: Do you know how to get back F10 in Unity? I haven't found it yet. Yes, that's a PITA, affect yourself with this bug to increase the heat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/750700 -- Sincerely yours, Yury V. Zaytsev ___ mc mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: Unity redefines F10
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote: Hi! On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 03:52 -0400, Jabba Laci wrote: Do you know how to get back F10 in Unity? I haven't found it yet. Yes, that's a PITA, affect yourself with this bug to increase the heat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/750700 -- Sincerely yours, Yury V. Zaytsev Hi, While I fully agree that they should not do that, let me mention that I faced the same problem a couple of years ago when I installed MC on a Mac OS-10 system. The Mac already has F10 mapped to something like minimize window or such. Also, for that matter, F9 already has a specific meaning. In such situations it is possible to do some kind of re-mapping. Try to figure out which of Cntl-F10, Alt-F10, Shift-F10 or whatever do not already have a designated meaning, and re-map the exit function to one of those. How I did that at the moment escapes me, but it was not that difficult, actually. This is certainly not an ideal solution, but it can alleviate an annoyance, at least to some extent. Also, while one could hardly expect OS-10 to accommodate the key conventions of MC, I do emphatically agree that a Linux distribution really ought to. MC has a long and widespread usage pattern on Linux, and distros ought simply to understand that there are going to be lots of people who continue to want to use it no matter what kind of fancy new desktop designs that they want to introduce. Hoping that the above suggestions might help a little bit, Theodore Kilgore ___ mc mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: Unity redefines F10
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, William Kimber wrote: On Saturday 30 April 2011 04:32:42 Theodore Kilgore wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote: Hi! On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 03:52 -0400, Jabba Laci wrote: Do you know how to get back F10 in Unity? I haven't found it yet. Yes, that's a PITA, affect yourself with this bug to increase the heat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/750700 -- Sincerely yours, Yury V. Zaytsev Hi, While I fully agree that they should not do that, let me mention that I faced the same problem a couple of years ago when I installed MC on a Mac OS-10 system. The Mac already has F10 mapped to something like minimize window or such. Also, for that matter, F9 already has a specific meaning. In such situations it is possible to do some kind of re-mapping. Try to figure out which of Cntl-F10, Alt-F10, Shift-F10 or whatever do not already have a designated meaning, and re-map the exit function to one of those. How I did that at the moment escapes me, but it was not that difficult, actually. This is certainly not an ideal solution, but it can alleviate an annoyance, at least to some extent. Also, while one could hardly expect OS-10 to accommodate the key conventions of MC, I do emphatically agree that a Linux distribution really ought to. MC has a long and widespread usage pattern on Linux, and distros ought simply to understand that there are going to be lots of people who continue to want to use it no matter what kind of fancy new desktop designs that they want to introduce. One of the reasons the don't bother about keeping the mc keys is that they do not put mc in the distro. Why I have no idea as it is the first thing I have to add. Well, AFAIR the same could be said about several distros, starting with Debian (which might account for mc being missing in the default Ubuntu install) and, I think, Red Hat as well. Why? I have no idea, either. But if you do get into a jam about this on some new system and cannot otherwise get out, then as I rememember it is is indeed possible to re-map the F10 key's functionality to something else which is close enough to avoid acute discomfort. I forget now exactly how I did it, though. I think it had something to do with MC setup functions but at this point I cannot be sure. As my students in calculus courses say about things like basic trigonometry, Sir, it has been a long time since I studied that. Theodore Kilgore ___ mc mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
