Re: mc Digest, Vol 146, Issue 10

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

On Thu, 3 Nov 2016, solarflow99 wrote:


Could this explain it?

  https://mail.gnome.org/archives/mc/2016-October/msg9.html


Most likely it can be simply explained by the fact that shell wrappers 
don't take effect until you re-login, so on a freshly installed system mc 
will not remember last directory right after installing the package.


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On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 3:07 AM, A.J. Bonnema  wrote:
  On 10/15/2016 10:57 AM, Mike wrote:
I've never met Peter Norton. I think I installed some Norton 
software in the 90s. I don't recall much
about it or him so I have nothing to compare. I think there is a nc 
clone/wannabee out there somewhere,
but mc is only similar by accident - the 2 panel thing. Apparently it is 
a "visual shell for *nix
environments", not a "file manager", although I categorize it as 
one, like most users I think. midnight
commander has its origins from the 90s too. It sucked far worse 
back then.

  Hey Mike,

  I used to love Norton Commander (nc) because of its function keys for 
copy and move in combination with easy
  selection of files. Those are the traits that mc copied from norton and 
made me start using MC. Probably MC also
  copied the editting. In comparison to DOS at the time, Norton Commander 
was really a breeze of fresh air. He really
  thought things through. When I switched to Linux I went  to MC and never 
looked back. He also made other more
  system oriented software for windows, but I am getting OT now.

  Anyway, I like MC for the same reasons and especially for the reason it 
is reliable. With one exception everything
  works as I expect it to. The exception is that sometimes the current 
directory is remembered when finishing MC, and
  sometimes it isn't and you end up in the original directory that you 
started MC. This usually happens after full
  upgrade or installing a new OS (Fedora -> Ubuntu or back)

  I haven't seen this for a while, so probably the setup of MC has 
improved. I work from Fedora 24 atm.

  Kind regards, Guus.


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Re: mc Digest, Vol 146, Issue 10

[solarflow99]

Could this explain it?

  https://mail.gnome.org/archives/mc/2016-October/msg9.html




On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 3:07 AM, A.J. Bonnema  wrote:

> On 10/15/2016 10:57 AM, Mike wrote:
>
>> I've never met Peter Norton. I think I installed some Norton software in
>> the 90s. I don't recall much about it or him so I have nothing to compare.
>> I think there is a nc clone/wannabee out there somewhere, but mc is only
>> similar by accident - the 2 panel thing. Apparently it is a "visual shell
>> for *nix environments", not a "file manager", although I categorize it as
>> one, like most users I think. midnight commander has its origins from the
>> 90s too. It sucked far worse back then.
>>
> Hey Mike,
>
> I used to love Norton Commander (nc) because of its function keys for copy
> and move in combination with easy selection of files. Those are the traits
> that mc copied from norton and made me start using MC. Probably MC also
> copied the editting. In comparison to DOS at the time, Norton Commander was
> really a breeze of fresh air. He really thought things through. When I
> switched to Linux I went  to MC and never looked back. He also made other
> more system oriented software for windows, but I am getting OT now.
>
> Anyway, I like MC for the same reasons and especially for the reason it is
> reliable. With one exception everything works as I expect it to. The
> exception is that sometimes the current directory is remembered when
> finishing MC, and sometimes it isn't and you end up in the original
> directory that you started MC. This usually happens after full upgrade or
> installing a new OS (Fedora -> Ubuntu or back)
>
> I haven't seen this for a while, so probably the setup of MC has improved.
> I work from Fedora 24 atm.
>
> Kind regards, Guus.
>
>
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Re: Possible usability addition to mc quickview panel

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

On Sat, 15 Oct 2016, Sacha Hony wrote:

I have inspected the mc source code and it seems like a relative simple 
addition because the whole framework of calling external programs based 
on file-magic is already there.


Please use the ticket tracker to file feature requests and propose 
patches, whatever you write to the mailing list will eventually get lost.


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Do you know how to fix "ALT+I" key combo in tightvnc for mc?

[Alexander Oberhuber]

Hello,

I'm sorry, but maybe you can help me?
I'm trying to connect to a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS server using tightvnc.
It works neatly, but they key combination "ALT+I" is not being 
transmitted to midnight commander correctly: Instead of changing both 
panels to the same directory, MC just displays a question mark "?" in 
the command line.

I'm sure it's a bug or feature of Tightvnc, but I don't know how to fix it.
Maybe someone here also experienced this tightvnc-behaviour and knows 
what to do... Any suggestions?


Yours
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Possible usability addition to mc quickview panel

[Sacha Hony]

Dear MC developers,

I use MC a lot during my work. I thought of a possible usability addition
that would improve my work flow significantly.

I often browse through older archives and directories in which case I use
the quickview-panel to inspect the content. During this I find myself
repeatedly entering and leaving the archives/directories to browse to the
README file to inspect it.

It would be a great addition if I could add a "custom command view panel"
which calls upon an external program to generate output to display in the
viewer panel. I could than write a simple bash script that outputs the
content of the README

I have inspected the mc source code and it seems like a relative simple
addition because the whole framework of calling external programs based on
file-magic is already there.

Many thanks for your kind consideration and the great program that you
produce,

Sacha
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Strange problems with mc

[Orlando Marton - Claus Web SRL]

Hello,

 

I have a question, i have made a script in .bashrc and since then Im having
issues when exiting from mc.

 

1.At first the problem was the script had the name test (){code}

Each time i have exited from mc the script was rulled.

 

2.Now I have renamed the script to phpininew(){code}

Now the script doesn't rule anymore but mc exits very hard, it takes couple
of minutes to exit.

 

Can you tell my what can be the problem, what connection has mc with
/root/.bashrc ?

 

Details about mc:

 

mc -V

GNU Midnight Commander 4.7.0.2

Virtual File System: tarfs, extfs, cpiofs, ftpfs, fish, mcfs, smbfs

With builtin Editor

Using system-installed S-Lang library with terminfo database

With subshell support as default

With support for background operations

With mouse support on xterm and Linux console

With internationalization support

With multiple codepages support

Data types: char 8 int 32 long 64 void * 64 off_t 64 ecs_char 8

 



Regards,

Orlando Marton

Technical support

Claus Web srl

CLAUS WEB - It is a registered trademark

Phone number: 

+40.729.817447 

+40.261.768080

 

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Re: mc Digest, Vol 146, Issue 10

[A.J. Bonnema]

On 10/15/2016 10:57 AM, Mike wrote:
I've never met Peter Norton. I think I installed some Norton software 
in the 90s. I don't recall much about it or him so I have nothing to 
compare. I think there is a nc clone/wannabee out there somewhere, but 
mc is only similar by accident - the 2 panel thing. Apparently it is a 
"visual shell for *nix environments", not a "file manager", although I 
categorize it as one, like most users I think. midnight commander has 
its origins from the 90s too. It sucked far worse back then. 

Hey Mike,

I used to love Norton Commander (nc) because of its function keys for 
copy and move in combination with easy selection of files. Those are the 
traits that mc copied from norton and made me start using MC. Probably 
MC also copied the editting. In comparison to DOS at the time, Norton 
Commander was really a breeze of fresh air. He really thought things 
through. When I switched to Linux I went  to MC and never looked back. 
He also made other more system oriented software for windows, but I am 
getting OT now.


Anyway, I like MC for the same reasons and especially for the reason it 
is reliable. With one exception everything works as I expect it to. The 
exception is that sometimes the current directory is remembered when 
finishing MC, and sometimes it isn't and you end up in the original 
directory that you started MC. This usually happens after full upgrade 
or installing a new OS (Fedora -> Ubuntu or back)


I haven't seen this for a while, so probably the setup of MC has 
improved. I work from Fedora 24 atm.


Kind regards, Guus.


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Re: Midnight Commander 4.8.18 released

[Nerijus Baliunas]

On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 17:18:12 +0200 (CEST) "Yury V. Zaytsev"  
wrote:

> > Woops, copy paste mistake. I used a previous mail announcement. MC is 
> > compiled with --with-x since 4.8.17, as you already asked me :)
> 
> Oh, as a matter of fact, I had a faint suspicion that we've already had 
> this conversation... now all that is left is to somehow inflict it on the 
> Fedora maintainers ;-)

Reported - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1383054

Regards,
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Strange problems with mc

[Orlando Marton - Claus Web SRL]

Hello,

 

I have a question, i have made a script in .bashrc and since then Im having
issues when exiting from mc.

 

1.At first the problem was the script had the name test (){code}

Each time i have exited from mc the script was rulled.

 

2.Now I have renamed the script to phpininew(){code}

Now the script doesn't rule anymore but mc exits very hard, it takes couple
of minutes to exit.

 

Can you tell my what can be the problem, what connection has mc with
/root/.bashrc ?

 

Details about mc:

 

mc -V

GNU Midnight Commander 4.7.0.2

Virtual File System: tarfs, extfs, cpiofs, ftpfs, fish, mcfs, smbfs

With builtin Editor

Using system-installed S-Lang library with terminfo database

With subshell support as default

With support for background operations

With mouse support on xterm and Linux console

With internationalization support

With multiple codepages support

Data types: char 8 int 32 long 64 void * 64 off_t 64 ecs_char 8

 



Regards,

Orlando Marton

Technical support

Claus Web srl

CLAUS WEB - It is a registered trademark

Phone number: 

+40.729.817447 

+40.261.768080

 

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Re: root:root ownership of ~/.local/share/mc

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On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 05:55:04PM +0200, David Martín wrote:
> I'm not sure if this is to be considered as a bug or if it is

It definitely is not a bug, merely a user misunderstanding.

> just an «unfortunate coincidence». In case it's of any use I
> will report:
> 
> I am an active user of mc. After a fresh install of GNU/Linux 
> (mostly Ubuntu flavors) my first steps look like
> 
>   $> sudo apt install mc
>   $> sudo mc -or- sudo mcedit whatever.cfg
> 
> This leads to mc creating a config folder in the first-user home 
> directory owned by root. Later, when getting into everyday routines 
> I realise about it (no history, no clipboard-file-copies are 
> allowed to me) and I have to «sudo chown -R ...» to fix it.

You need to understand what sudo(1) does with the environment.  When 
invoked as you did, $HOME is not changed, so mc does as you describe,
as would any other user software which wants to create a config file 
or directory.

You might be interested in sudo's "-i" option.  But that too is a 
tradeoff; if you have set anything you like in your own 
~/.local/share/mc, it won't be applied, because mc would look for the 
one in /root.

In the future if you have a question that actually pertains to mc, 
please post to the users' list, "m...@gnome.org".  It's very low 
traffic, most of the time, so don't worry about that; go ahead and 
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