Re: Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
* On 2022 21 Oct 12:22 -0500, Felix Miata via mc wrote: > Nate Bargmann composed on 2022-10-21 11:52 (UTC-0500): > > > The best would be if an email host could be found to take over > > this very low traffic but essential list. > > OS/2 mailing lists moved years ago from yahoogroups to https://groups.io/ > which > for me was welcome. At one time groups.io was allowing transfers for no cost. I am not sure if that is still the case. I do recall that above a certain subscriber base there were charges that applied to some groups I am a member of. Perhaps my only negative I can lodge against groups.io is that they insert a text block into the message that breaks cryptographic signed messages. Other than that the service has been fine. A lot of people do use it through its Web interface and I find its Web interface a good compromise between an email list and a Web forum. I certainly prefer it to Discourse. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
Nate Bargmann composed on 2022-10-21 11:52 (UTC-0500): > The best would be if an email host could be found to take over > this very low traffic but essential list. OS/2 mailing lists moved years ago from yahoogroups to https://groups.io/ which for me was welcome. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
* On 2022 21 Oct 02:22 -0500, wwp via mc wrote: > Hello, > > well, now users (us) will have to go search for services (forum) instead of > getting service delivered at home (ML), that's definitely a different > approach and no real way to customize the delivery of such service. I agree. I dislike Discourse but now if I want to follow the old GTK mailing list I have to login there. What really turns me off on it is the automatic locking of topics after a very short time (two weeks?) which is ridiculous as sometimes it takes much longer for an issue to resurface and get resolved. Then a user is left with having to start a new thread and hope that readers will follow a link to the locked thread for context. The conversation becomes quite disjointed and nearly useless. My experience with Discourse between two projects is that it is pandering and rather childish with the meaningless awards and congratulations it generates. It's really quite an annoying thing. > I don't clearly see the point in doing this, instead. of course, > because of trying to tie everyone into clicks and monetization, what > the web has now become. Emails are free and free of such monetization, > the current web cannot allow this to keep going (see what Google did > to emails). People I talked about this major turn around me are just > disgusted and don't really want to run into web forums and live in a > web browser. Prepare to see the audience being really different since > now! IIUC, this list was set up under the GNOME umbrella many years ago as the main developer then was one of the founders of GNOME. Midnight Commander has about zero to do with GNOME these days and other than this list being hosted on GNOME servers, it seems to be an independent project. The best would be if an email host could be found to take over this very low traffic but essential list. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: landing on exit from mc
On Fri, 21 Oct 2022, Felix Miata via mc wrote: Some distros on exit I'm returned to the directory that was current at startup. Some distros on exit I'm returned to $HOME directory. Some distros on exit I remain. What controls this? I'd really rather remain. I can't keep track of which distros do what. It's really annoying. $ which mc alias mc='. /usr/libexec/mc/mc-wrapper.sh' -> some distros do use a wrapper. Wrapper is responsible on what directory you end in after mc is finished. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: landing on exit from mc
Options -> panel options -> auto save panels setup I use fedora and hate having to set this on every host, I had some discussion going about this a while back. On Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 12:33 AM Felix Miata via mc wrote: > Some distros on exit I'm returned to the directory that was current at > startup. > Some distros on exit I'm returned to $HOME directory. > Some distros on exit I remain. > > What controls this? I'd really rather remain. I can't keep track of which > distros > do what. It's really annoying. > -- > Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, > based on faith, not based on science. > > Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! > > Felix Miata > ___ > mc mailing list > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc > ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: landing on exit from mc
On Fri, 21 Oct 2022, Felix Miata via mc wrote: Some distros on exit I'm returned to the directory that was current at startup. Some distros on exit I'm returned to $HOME directory. Some distros on exit I remain. What controls this? I'd really rather remain. I can't keep track of which distros do what. It's really annoying. Distro maintainers decide, whether they activate shell wrapper scripts for their users or not. They might also patch mc to conform to their policies (e.g. annoying Debian editor patch). -- Sincerely yours, Yury V. Zaytsev ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
I did not tested that, but as written by Andrea, discourse has a email interface: https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46 On Fri, 21 Oct 2022, wwp via mc wrote: Hello, well, now users (us) will have to go search for services (forum) instead of getting service delivered at home (ML), that's definitely a different approach and no real way to customize the delivery of such service. I don't clearly see the point in doing this, instead. of course, because of trying to tie everyone into clicks and monetization, what the web has now become. Emails are free and free of such monetization, the current web cannot allow this to keep going (see what Google did to emails). People I talked about this major turn around me are just disgusted and don't really want to run into web forums and live in a web browser. Prepare to see the audience being really different since now! Regards, -- wwp https://useplaintext.email/ ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
landing on exit from mc
Some distros on exit I'm returned to the directory that was current at startup. Some distros on exit I'm returned to $HOME directory. Some distros on exit I remain. What controls this? I'd really rather remain. I can't keep track of which distros do what. It's really annoying. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
Hello, well, now users (us) will have to go search for services (forum) instead of getting service delivered at home (ML), that's definitely a different approach and no real way to customize the delivery of such service. I don't clearly see the point in doing this, instead. of course, because of trying to tie everyone into clicks and monetization, what the web has now become. Emails are free and free of such monetization, the current web cannot allow this to keep going (see what Google did to emails). People I talked about this major turn around me are just disgusted and don't really want to run into web forums and live in a web browser. Prepare to see the audience being really different since now! Regards, -- wwp https://useplaintext.email/ pgp4aCPJZkH5X.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
Hello, well, now users (us) will have to go search for services (forum) instead of getting service delivered at home (ML), that's definitely a different approach and no real way to customize the delivery of such service. I don't clearly see the point in doing this, instead. of course, because of trying to tie everyone into clicks and monetization, what the web has now become. Emails are free and free of such monetization, the current web cannot allow this to keep going (see what Google did to emails). People I talked about this major turn around me are just disgusted and don't really want to run into web forums and live in a web browser. Prepare to see the audience being really different since now! Regards, -- wwp https://useplaintext.email/ pgpIoW_HdRM_z.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
