Re: [rebellion attempt] Fight back!
* On 2022 24 Oct 03:26 -0500, Werner LEMBERG via mc wrote: > > > a lot of the Evolution mailing list members, including myself, > > tested the mailing list ability of Discourse. I was not allowed to > > start a new thread by email, because my gamification level was 0. > > You are allowed to start a new thread by email, after you reached > > level 1. This is not the only annoyance. Discourse GNOME has got no > > real mailing list ability. > > Given that mc is a GNU project, why not using the most natural site, > `gnu.org`, for a mailing list? An additional bonus is that the > gnu.org mailing list archives come with a nice – and working! – search > interface. Werner, I think that would be ideal. I am not an mc dev, just a user satisfied with the program for 26 years or so. I don't recall where the bug tracker is hosted, probably aggregated in the rest of GNOME, but it would be nice to move mc issues over to the Savannah tracking system. If the mc devs would agree I think this process should be expedited given the short time frame available. Can you assist them if they are willing? - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
* On 2022 21 Oct 12:22 -0500, Felix Miata via mc wrote: > Nate Bargmann composed on 2022-10-21 11:52 (UTC-0500): > > > The best would be if an email host could be found to take over > > this very low traffic but essential list. > > OS/2 mailing lists moved years ago from yahoogroups to https://groups.io/ > which > for me was welcome. At one time groups.io was allowing transfers for no cost. I am not sure if that is still the case. I do recall that above a certain subscriber base there were charges that applied to some groups I am a member of. Perhaps my only negative I can lodge against groups.io is that they insert a text block into the message that breaks cryptographic signed messages. Other than that the service has been fine. A lot of people do use it through its Web interface and I find its Web interface a good compromise between an email list and a Web forum. I certainly prefer it to Discourse. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
* On 2022 21 Oct 02:22 -0500, wwp via mc wrote: > Hello, > > well, now users (us) will have to go search for services (forum) instead of > getting service delivered at home (ML), that's definitely a different > approach and no real way to customize the delivery of such service. I agree. I dislike Discourse but now if I want to follow the old GTK mailing list I have to login there. What really turns me off on it is the automatic locking of topics after a very short time (two weeks?) which is ridiculous as sometimes it takes much longer for an issue to resurface and get resolved. Then a user is left with having to start a new thread and hope that readers will follow a link to the locked thread for context. The conversation becomes quite disjointed and nearly useless. My experience with Discourse between two projects is that it is pandering and rather childish with the meaningless awards and congratulations it generates. It's really quite an annoying thing. > I don't clearly see the point in doing this, instead. of course, > because of trying to tie everyone into clicks and monetization, what > the web has now become. Emails are free and free of such monetization, > the current web cannot allow this to keep going (see what Google did > to emails). People I talked about this major turn around me are just > disgusted and don't really want to run into web forums and live in a > web browser. Prepare to see the audience being really different since > now! IIUC, this list was set up under the GNOME umbrella many years ago as the main developer then was one of the founders of GNOME. Midnight Commander has about zero to do with GNOME these days and other than this list being hosted on GNOME servers, it seems to be an independent project. The best would be if an email host could be found to take over this very low traffic but essential list. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: Navigate directories with MC
* On 2019 08 Feb 17:48 -0600, Paul Westell wrote: > Both are written with no shebang and have a trailing line. I'm not sure if > Debian still defaults to something other than Bash, you may have to add a > shebang calling Bash (#! /bin/bash) to make these work on a Debian system. By default Debian links /bin/sh to /bin/dash: $ ls -l /bin/sh lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Jan 17 13:08 /bin/sh -> dash* - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: http://www.n0nb.us GPG key: D55A8819 GitHub: N0NB signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: IBM Systems Mag sez "All Hail the Midnight Commander!"
I'll take this opportunity to thank all of the contributors to this wonderful program that I have been using since 1996 with my first foray into Slackware Linux. I recall that its package description said something about Norton Commander, but I never saw it or used it back in my MS/PC-DOS days. Midnight Commander is the first package I install on a new system if it isn't installed already. I recommend it to everyone interested in trying Linux. It is such a versatile program that over time I'll have five or six instances of mc running in various virtual terminals. Sometimes I'll find I started it twice in the same vt! Thanks again. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: http://www.n0nb.us GPG key: D55A8819 GitHub: N0NB signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: MC confused by Wine MIME extensions
* On 2017 30 Dec 13:03 -0600, Adam Pribyl wrote: > On Sat, 30 Dec 2017, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > >* On 2017 30 Dec 08:21 -0600, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote: > >>On Sat, 30 Dec 2017, Nate Bargmann wrote: > >> > >>>How can I tell MC to ignore the Wine MIME files? > >> > >>mc doesn't use mailcap it has its own catalogue, mc.ext; check how the > >>problematic files are handled there... > > > >Thanks. That led to another script, /usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh which > >calls 'xdg-open' that launches Wine IE. This seems to be a Free > >Desktop.org thing. Sigh. > > Well, we all fight this from time to time, here is my complain: > https://midnight-commander.org/ticket/2965 Thanks for that link, Adam. That helped explain the process. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: mc tip
I use tmux to keep Mutt running on my home machine and when I log in remotely I can issue 'tmux attach' and pick up where I left off. The nice thing is that it keeps the session alive even when there is no active terminal connected to it. For example, even with no remote connections, if I issue 'Ctl-B D' to tmux that is running in an Xfce terminal I can close down and log out of Xfce and then log in on one of the virtual consoles, issue 'tmux attach' and there will be the terminal session the same as before. Quite a useful piece of software. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
Re: mc Digest, Vol 117, Issue 3
* On 2014 06 Jan 12:34 -0600, chris glur wrote: If it need more than 4 lines of explanation it's a failure. My sincere apologies for trying to be helpful and clear. Do you need CIA/KGB security clearance to put yur hand in your own pocket? No, but I use these connections over the Internet as well. YMMV, HNY. - Nate P.S. I had one line left so I used it here. -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us ___ mc mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
